Anyone else interested in a future Fallout World possibility

Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:16 am

It's the travel you need to adequately explain. It's not that there isn't travel in the game (some NPCs have come a long way) but rather how your character will travel in a timescale that isn't either tedious or so implausible that it breaks suspension of disbelief. Maybe you could have some kind of ship and can move along the coasts? Land travel is long, hard and dangerous. Water travel is probably the same but for different reasons.
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:22 pm

As I stated clearly before, albeit not so clear in this thread, I also think the main series should stay in the USA, for a lot of reasons that have been said in this thread before.

However a spin-off does not do an injustice to the *thing fallout is all about*

Yes, I do know the true intentions of the series and that they tried to show that although the world was falling apart the USA kept living the good life, ultimately allowing the destruction of the world.

However, since the game portrays the effects and aftermath of this attitude, I consider a spin-off such as Fallout New Vegas to be an excellent solution to portray other countries all over the world. These countries, although they are not the biggest base of the story, were undeniably affected by that said attitude (let alone the aftermath) and this should prove an excellent opportunity to show the other side of the medal. How did the rest of the world look at it. What did they think of the USA, etcetera ercetera.
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:01 am

A spin off theme-game, with no pretensions of being neither a sequel nor prequel, and a slice-of-life approach to the background of an event much bigger than the one being focused has nothing to do with what was proposed by the OP, nor what I was speaking against. As a matter of fact, I was really exited when I first saw JE talking about it. It would have been a really fun game, and any potential negative aspects would be ultimately inconsequential to the series and to the lore as a whole. I remember a couple years after F2 was launched we at the FO fan-board I used to hang around came up with near the whole plot of fan mod. It was about an agent of the BADTFL doing his investigations on things like illegal modifications on civilian-type energy weapons, cracking down organized crime rings, and stuff like that. (Incidentally, it would have taken place in DC :P) So I have nothing against spin-offs taking steps away from the main series, as it can't really affect the main games. On the contrary, I think it's a great thing. The main series, on the other hand, have already a pre-established and expected format, concept and meaning. And messing around with it is something I just can't take (and of course, that's just my opinion).


Do you know why they made up the European Commonwealth being torn apart by the Resources Wars in the first place? It was to show how, while the rest of the world was crumbling from the lack of resources, the US was entrenched inside their schizophrenic bubble of wastefulness and luxury. The rest of the world was falling down while the US was at it's peak, sitting in the last remaining reserves and refusing to let anybody else use it (just like in the 50's). And that arrogant, egocentric behaviour was what ultimately resulted in the entire world (including themselves) being destroyed. The goal of Fallout was to criticize *that* behavior of the *American* fifties. That was the whole purpose of it. Not simply to show a Wold-of-Tomorrow world that managed to blow itself up, it wasn't just a flavor aesthetic choice. That's why moving away from an American-centric perspective would also move away from the original concept.

Now a spin-off doesn't have to (and indeed shouldn't) be constrained by the concept of the *main series*, but saying that the series should evolve to showing the rest of the world, like the OP suggested, is, as I said, completely appalling.


maybe i came in in at the wrong place, but i just find it comical how even thought the OP didnt mention anything about a direct sequel or prequel, it got taken to the place of "if any one thinks fallout game should place outside of the us, they just dont get it"


the Resource Wars would no doubtedly be a spin off. But i dont feel having a fallout game, or at least part, take place outside of the US would necessarlily have to be a spin off.. An oil tanker in international waters most certainly isn't whats thought of as U.S. soil. Yet it was written into the script in a good manner that is accepted. (moreso than the experiments)
Let me ask you this. If a group of american soldiers became trapped in a foreign country while the great war was occouring, would those individuals still be americans? If they did manage to survive, and lets say for arguments sake, keep their lineage of american blood, would their ideals still be on par with those who were in the american wasteland?
What if since america was so great, pre-war-that was their goal. to make it back?

i certinaly dont say that for anyone to read too much into that scenario. im not gonna pitch it to gamesas or anything.. Just there to get you thinking, how far did the american mindset go in the fallout world? was being an american with ultra-american ideals and mannerisms reserved only for those physically witiin the mainland confines of that bubble?

ultimately, i think a lot could be done that blurs the lines of what people on here project as black and white.. it would just have to be well written.
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:51 am

I want to go to General Atomics's HQ in Detroit when it worked as a city, then went BOOM!
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