Between Man, Mer, and the Hist, where do the Sload fit in?

Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:36 pm

This is something that has been bugging me for awhile. We all know where Man and Mer came from, and the general consensus is that the Argonians came from the Hist, but where the hell do the Sload come from?

Edit: Pure speculation, but the similarity in form (amorphous blob) and demeanor (uncaring intellectuals) really gives them a Hermaeous Mora vibe. Possibility they are his creation?
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:24 pm

Good question. No idea.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:09 pm

Might as well ask where the Imga, Dreughs, Tsaesci, Kamal, Tang Mo, and Ka Po Tun fit in this.....
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:52 pm

I would also point out that the Khajit sort of have their own thing going, where they claim their own gods are not the same gods with different names, but their own distinct versions of gods.

The Akaviris seem to have an entire mythos all their own.

The cosmic neighborhood seems an awful lot bigger than just the Tamrielic playground, no matter how short the sights of the man and mer fighting over who owns the slide might be.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:49 pm

Well, when two sloads love each other very much (read: it's politically advantageous for the two), they entwine and exchange bodily fluids, then each go into the ocean to lay their eggs and observe as their young kill each other one by one to determine who is the most cunning/ruthless/strongest/lucky/magically inclined.

This smarmy factoid extrapolated from the wikipedia entry on slug reproduction, because we have no freakin' clue.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:27 am

Well, when two sloads love each other very much (read: it's politically advantageous for the two), they entwine and exchange bodily fluids, then each go into the ocean to lay their eggs and observe as their young kill each other one by one to determine who is the most cunning/ruthless/strongest/lucky/magically inclined.

This smarmy factoid extrapolated from the wikipedia entry on slug reproduction, because we have no freakin' clue.

Well its more when two sload teenagers get frisky they do the nasty, and then grow up and forget all about it, but ya that's the gist of it.

Good point though wraith, it'd be interesting to see what happens on a cosmic scale if these unrelated mythos were ever to collide.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:59 am

Well, when two sloads love each other very much (read: it's politically advantageous for the two), they entwine and exchange bodily fluids, then each go into the ocean to lay their eggs and observe as their young kill each other one by one to determine who is the most cunning/ruthless/strongest/lucky/magically inclined.

This smarmy factoid extrapolated from the wikipedia entry on slug reproduction, because we have no freakin' clue.


Ha! But I don't think Sloads have sixes. Its more like, well, self-insemination, I think. Which, IMO, would fit the Sload well...
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:19 pm

Ha! But I don't think Sloads have sixes. Its more like, well, self-insemination, I think. Which, IMO, would fit the Sload well...

I think the pocket guide said they were hermaphrodites, so ya kinda but they probably have to still share genetic material with each other.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:09 pm

Slugs are hermaphroditic, as are Sloads. That is why Dagon referenced them, and said that both participants would be impregnated by the affair.

The notion of one sload being a "half-brother/sister" might be a very strange concept, as your "daddy" would also be someone else's "mommy", and your "mommy" would be someone else's "daddy".

Sluggy Has Two Mommies!
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:12 pm

Well, when two sloads love each other very much (read: it's politically advantageous for the two), they entwine and exchange bodily fluids, then each go into the ocean to lay their eggs and observe as their young kill each other one by one to determine who is the most cunning/ruthless/strongest/lucky/magically inclined.

This smarmy factoid extrapolated from the wikipedia entry on slug reproduction, because we have no freakin' clue.

Wikipedia entry?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhVi4Z6CjZk.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:47 pm

Wikipedia entry?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhVi4Z6CjZk.


Oh damnit, don't do this to me. I love David Attenborough, I will get lost in YouTube for days following his videos.
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Wikipedia entry?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhVi4Z6CjZk.


That is equal parts beautiful and disgusting.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:21 am

I think the last Kalpa was watery, and the Dreugh and Sload are left-overs. This is just a guess.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:48 pm

I think the last Kalpa was watery, and the Dreugh and Sload are left-overs. This is just a guess.

It's a guess I've arrived at as well. Whether that bolsters its merit or not is for anyone to say.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:46 pm

I think the last Kalpa was watery, and the Dreugh and Sload are left-overs. This is just a guess.


Then where do goblins come from? Or ogres? Malacath claims dominion over ogres because they're big and ugly, but he didn't create them, and nobody else was claiming them before that, either.

Plus all the races Zeios mentioned.

I still say that the aedra and daedra are really just shunning a few dozen extra gods that nobody wants to talk about because they are disenfranchised.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:04 am

Then where do goblins come from? Or ogres? Malacath claims dominion over ogres because they're big and ugly, but he didn't create them, and nobody else was claiming them before that, either.

Plus all the races Zeios mentioned.

I still say that the aedra and daedra are really just shunning a few dozen extra gods that nobody wants to talk about because they are disenfranchised.

Which makes me wonder if there's more going on than we are led to believe. If its true, these divines and daedra we've been concerning ourselves with could be minor in comparison. Or the opposite whatever.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:29 pm

I think the last Kalpa was watery, and the Dreugh and Sload are left-overs. This is just a guess.


"The Mundex Terrene was once ruled over solely by the tyrant dreugh-kings, each to their own dominion, and borderwars fought between their slave oceans. They were akin to the time-totems of old, yet evil, and full of mockery and profane powers. No one that lived did so outside of the sufferance of the dreughs... Deny not that these days shall come again, my novitiates! For as Mehrunes threw down Lyg and cracked his face, declaring each of the nineteen and nine and nine oceans Free, so shall he crack the serpent crown of the Cyrodiils and make federation!" - Commentaries, Book 4

"From the Provisional House he looked into the middle world to find the fifth monster, called The Ruddy Man. When the dreughs ruled the world, the Daedroth Prince Molag Bal had been their chief. He took a different shape then, spiny and armored and made for the sea." - Sermon 28

Hard to interpret these any other way. If not a separate Kalpa, definitely a Dawn Era offshoot when the world was still forming. I suspect Akavir (though BGS cannot seem to make up their mind about it) can be explained to have similar origins: Still essentially Ehlnofey derivatives, just separated from Man and Mer by time and distant ancestry, existing on one of the offshoot worlds of the latest Kalpa (note that they also worship Tosh Raka, Aka’s mirror brother). In this interpretation, the Dreugh/Sload would simply be some of our most distant relatives. Then again, we reach, more or less, the same conclusion if we assume they are previous-Kalpa holdovers.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:07 pm

Might as well ask where the Imga, Dreughs, Tsaesci, Kamal, Tang Mo, and Ka Po Tun fit in this.....

And ricklings.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:08 pm

Might as well ask where the Imga, Dreughs, Tsaesci, Kamal, Tang Mo, and Ka Po Tun fit in this.....


Imga is the easiest to answer, they obviously spontaneously coagulated from the sum total of all the cool in the TES universe.

... Yeah, I'm Pro-Imga, don't mess with me :mohawk:
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:02 am

"The Mundex Terrene was once ruled over solely by the tyrant dreugh-kings, each to their own dominion, and borderwars fought between their slave oceans. They were akin to the time-totems of old, yet evil, and full of mockery and profane powers. No one that lived did so outside of the sufferance of the dreughs... Deny not that these days shall come again, my novitiates! For as Mehrunes threw down Lyg and cracked his face, declaring each of the nineteen and nine and nine oceans Free, so shall he crack the serpent crown of the Cyrodiils and make federation!" - Commentaries, Book 4

"From the Provisional House he looked into the middle world to find the fifth monster, called The Ruddy Man. When the dreughs ruled the world, the Daedroth Prince Molag Bal had been their chief. He took a different shape then, spiny and armored and made for the sea." - Sermon 28

Hard to interpret these any other way. If not a separate Kalpa, definitely a Dawn Era offshoot when the world was still forming. I suspect Akavir (though BGS cannot seem to make up their mind about it) can be explained to have similar origins: Still essentially Ehlnofey derivatives, just separated from Man and Mer by time and distant ancestry, existing on one of the offshoot worlds of the latest Kalpa (note that they also worship Tosh Raka, Aka’s mirror brother). In this interpretation, the Dreugh/Sload would simply be some of our most distant relatives. Then again, we reach, more or less, the same conclusion if we assume they are previous-Kalpa holdovers.

Wow, fantastic finds. I never saw either of those I think. Or at least I dismissed the importance of them as soon as I read them.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:28 pm

The dawn era was the end of the previous kalpa, or so to quote?

Kind of cool/funny/imo that we're labeling every more and more odd bits of culture-nature to previous kalpas. Hip and Rad way to describe the supernon-linear Dawn era, where intermeshing timelines are kalpas are worlds.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:37 pm

This is something that has been bugging me for awhile. We all know where Man and Mer came from, and the general consensus is that the Argonians came from the Hist, but where the hell do the Sload come from?

Edit: Pure speculation, but the similarity in form (amorphous blob) and demeanor (uncaring intellectuals) really gives them a Hermaeous Mora vibe. Possibility they are his creation?

I'm pretty sure beasts come from the same place as men and mer. It's just the Argonians that are different since their planet of creation is different
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:56 pm

Edit: Pure speculation, but the similarity in form (amorphous blob) and demeanor (uncaring intellectuals) really gives them a Hermaeous Mora vibe. Possibility they are his creation?


Probably not, but I'd bet good money The Pillar Of Thras leads to his realm, when he feels like opening the portal, anyway. Gives off kind of a Lovecraft vibe.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:27 pm

Then where do goblins come from? Or ogres? Malacath claims dominion over ogres because they're big and ugly, but he didn't create them, and nobody else was claiming them before that, either.

They're just another category of Ehlnofey. If you look at the Tang Mo, men, elves, goblins, ogres, Ka Po Tun, Khajiit, et cetera, they're all more similar than different, which isn't true of the Dreugh, Sload, or Hist.

Also, only the men claim to have been created. Everyone else says they were merely shaped by the gods.
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