The Legion Reorganized

Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:23 pm

I hope you enjoy this bit of lore for the Legion I wrote for the current situation in Tamriel; I would really appreciate any feedback you have.

THE LEGION REORGANIZED

The Imperial Legion (Supreme Command) - High General Salder

(Forces in Cyrodiil)
-I Legion (Imperial City Garrison) - General Senian Tandous
-IX Legion (Imperial City, Lake Ramure Defenses) - General Hannibal Viccen
-XVI Legion (Imperial City, Western Aproaches) - General Clavous Ferando
-Imperial Fortifiers (Niben Defense Line) - Legate Recardo
-Imperial Marines (Anvil Garrison & Leyawiin Garrison)

-Army of the South (On the borders of Elsywre and Valenwood.) - General Randstal
--IV Legion - Legate Stondale
--VIII Legion - Legate Heldicus
--X Legion - General Jorvich Snow-Bear
--XV Legion - General Mallius

-Army of the East (On the border of Black Marsh.) General Stanslous
--XII Legion - General Frankous Tiber
--XIII Legion - General Walendo
--XIV Legion - General Simon Amarous

(Forces in Skyrim)
-III Legion - General Tullius (Military Governor of Skyrim.)
-V Legion (Detachment) - Legate Rikke

(Forces in High Rock)
-V Legion (Minus Detachment in Skyrim) - General Halidous
-VI Legion - General Stanbach
-VII Legion - General Xandorman

(Forces in Morrowind)
-II Legion - General Freimous (Military Governor of Morrowind.)

Following the Great War the Imperial Armies were severly desintagrated, most notabaly the VIII Legion which was almost entirely destroyed in its valiant defense of the Imperial City; with the Legions low on man power and scattered all across the Empire's holdings, the time came for the Imperial Legion to be completely reorganized. What legions remained were merged together to strengthen the units. The original thirty legions were lowered to six-teen. The remaining units of sailors were formed into a unit called the Imperial Marines whose task was to hold the ports of Anvil and Leyawiin; while the remnants of the legions in Black Marsh were formed into the Imperial Fortifiers to rebuild and garrison some of the forts in the Nibeny Bason.

The new Legions were then assigned to the general area they were in to watch in case the Aldmeri Dominion was to, once again, start another war; Skyrim and Morrowind, however, had to be put under military control; Morrowind still realing from the Red Mountain erruption, this unit was the II Legion. Skyrim was in more direct turmoil after Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak killed the High King, in honorable combat, and started what is called the Stormcloak Rebellion. Normally only a small detachment of the Legion was in Skyrim, due to the province's loyalty to the Empire; but a larger contingent, the III Legion under General Tullius (now military governor) and a detachment of the V Legion under Legate Rikke. Though fighting has only been going on for a short time, it has been a bloody affair which has torn the proud province assunder in Civil War.

In Cyrodiil, the Empire maintains a large force in order to protect the home province which is now bordered by Dominion held lands. The troops assigned to this have been formed into two armies; the Army of the South, covering Elsywre and Valenwood; and the Army of the East, covering Black Marsh. Hammerfell, though not part of the Dominion but like Skyrim in turmoil is watched by the legions stationed in High Rock.

The command structure has also been reformed, normally under the direct command of the Emperor the Imperial Legion is now under the command of a High General who acts as the Emperor's military advisor and, if needed, his field commander. This new structure allows the Emperor more focus on the ever fragile political situation in Tamriel. If war is to break out, the new structure of the Legion is hoped to help keep the field.
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Emma-Jane Merrin
 
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:08 pm

I love how you restructured the military hierarchy.
I don't think I have enough knowledge to suggest for you to add anything, so I'll leave others to nitpick.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:10 am

I like it.. But I would send some of the forces in High Rock to keep an eye on Skyrim. Propably the rest of V Legion. Then you can leave one legion to keep an eye on Daggerfall, and one to keep an eye on Wayrest. A sufficiently numerous force in High Rock to keep the Kings and Queens from forgetting where their loyalty lies, but would still strengthen Skyrim more to be sure that the Stormcloak rebellion will not suceed.
Of course, I am not the Emperor.

Also, would the Emperor not be the Supreme Commander?
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:27 am

Well my belief for High Rock is that since it is one of the last remaining "loyal" Provinces it would be best to keep all who can be spared to prevent the Thalmor agents from roaming freely and of course to help make the rulers of High Rock feel some security despite the Empire's defeats in the other regions. As for the V Legion, a detachment was sent since it was already close to Skyrim and a short march away, so if there is need the rest of the Legion can march to Skyrim or the detachment can be recalled in times of crisis. The Emperor would of course be supreme commander but with the political situation being so unstable due to the Thalmor he would need to focus on that rather than military affairs which, since the Empire is not in a full scale war, can be handled by the High General.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:39 pm

I'd add a marine division to the Illiac. The Summerset Isles have been known to have the second-best navy in the world for a long time, rivaled only by the Maormer. It'd make sense that the Empire would want to challenge that. The Imperial Navy would want a division based in the Illiac and Marines deployed on it.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:04 pm

If I were Emperor, I would et no one but myself have full command over the Legions (overall). Placing another with full command of the Empire military forces is begging for a coup.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:20 am

TROLLOLOLOLOLOL Thalmor Dovakhiin > All plans.

But seriously, good job. Where did you find the names of the other generals?
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:52 pm

I think it's a bit useless having a Legion in Black Marsh. The Empire is far too weak to really fight or govern the Argonians, so it would be better to communicate or possibly ally with them, and move the Legions in Black Marsh to Skyrim. Maybe leave one Legion at Black Marsh.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:05 pm

Even Tiber Septim didn't invade Black Marsh.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:37 pm

Sounds interesting, but it seems like there are too many legions to me.

3 complete legions in the center of Cyrodiil
4 complete legions in the south of Cyrodiil near the borders
3 more legions near the border of the Black Marsh

That's ten armies in Cyrodiil alone. Seems like way to much for an Empire in the state it is in, it also wouldn't make sense why there are only 1.5 in Skyrim then. Send two or three more and you can improve combat readiness and end the civil war a lot faster. I also seriously doubt High rock has that many legions in it, seeing as it's one of the last loyal provinces and it directly borders Skyrim, it would have been a bigger point of fear to the Stormcloacks...
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:59 am

I somewhat doubt that they'd literally merge legions, based on historical president. Instead, maybe you could have it be that the veteran troops were all transferred into half of the legions, and a mass recruiting effort is underway to re-man the other legions.

I'd also give some more mention to legions dedicated to rebuilding & fortifying stuff. That's an often-overlooked aspect of militaries throughout history.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:32 pm

Sounds interesting, but it seems like there are too many legions to me.

3 complete legions in the center of Cyrodiil
4 complete legions in the south of Cyrodiil near the borders
3 more legions near the border of the Black Marsh

That's ten armies in Cyrodiil alone. Seems like way to much for an Empire in the state it is in, it also wouldn't make sense why there are only 1.5 in Skyrim then. Send two or three more and you can improve combat readiness and end the civil war a lot faster. I also seriously doubt High rock has that many legions in it, seeing as it's one of the last loyal provinces and it directly borders Skyrim, it would have been a bigger point of fear to the Stormcloacks...


We know nothing really of the amount of armies the Empire has. Its hinted at being based similarly on the Roman Republic model of Legions so you could safely gander a guess one legion is about six thousand men. With an Empire that stretches across the continent and holds the most populace regions, I find the general idea that the Empire is lacking in military strength in the first place ridiculous. Rome itself fielded far more men than that against Hannibal before it was really an Empire and Hannibal killed more than that in the battle of Cannae alone.

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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:46 pm

I like to think that the Dragonborn became Emperor after the end of the Mede line.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:31 pm

Don't forget the other Legates (Or have they another name?) that are distributed along the Imperial Military Camps of Skyrim. I believe that there is a Altmer, a Dunmer and a Nord "Commander"
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:28 am

I like to think that the Dragonborn became Emperor after the end of the Mede line.

Which, alas, will probably be shot down after this game. Bethesda doesn't let our characters become more than a wandering adventurer- the only exception is Shivering Isles, and only because A.) Its a realm of Oblivion and B.) they can refer to the player as something else.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:09 am


We know nothing really of the amount of armies the Empire has. Its hinted at being based similarly on the Roman Republic model of Legions so you could safely gander a guess one legion is about six thousand men. With an Empire that stretches across the continent and holds the most populace regions, I find the general idea that the Empire is lacking in military strength in the first place ridiculous. Rome itself fielded far more men than that against Hannibal before it was really an Empire and Hannibal killed more than that in the battle of Cannae alone.



We are actually told in the novels that half a legion is about 3 000 men, or so I was told from someone on this forum who read the second book.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:23 pm

Which, alas, will probably be shot down after this game. Bethesda doesn't let our characters become more than a wandering adventurer- the only exception is Shivering Isles, and only because A.) Its a realm of Oblivion and B.) they can refer to the player as something else.


Not necessarily. Like Talos, they take a proper Cyrodilic name and then are always depicted in heavy, concealing armor, preferably while stabbing a Dragon. Then you have historians bickering ad nauseum that he was a she was Breton was a Dunmer was an Altmer, sacked Solitude, no it was Windhelm, was Listener, was a werewolf, was a vampire, was champion of basically every Daedric prince ever (even Jyggalag), liked Hunningbrew mead, liked Black-Briar mead, really didn't care for mead.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:17 pm

I find something like Emperor of Tamriel a little hard to handle in terms of race. I just don't think people would have any conflicting accounts on weather their emperor was a Altmer, Khajjit, Dunmer, Redguard or Argonia as to where the Imperial, Nords and Bretons are little more than cultural representations who's appearances can vary both in likeness and difference. Personally, I prefer we never, ever, ever become a cannon leader like that. Talos was a man, no one ever argued that he was anything other than that nor confused him for a mer or beast.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:51 pm

Very interesting.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:45 am

Interesting read, just a side question:

I'd add a marine division to the Illiac. The Summerset Isles have been known to have the second-best navy in the world for a long time, rivaled only by the Maormer. It'd make sense that the Empire would want to challenge that. The Imperial Navy would want a division based in the Illiac and Marines deployed on it.


I was under the impression the Redguards and Nords fielded the best navies. Is this wrong? Maybe a case of best sailors =/= best navies?
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