LOL.. New patch completely breaks game and makes it unplayab

Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:32 pm

Personally I've had nothing of the sort. I did have one minor gamebreaker but they patched that out with a workaroud. The Steam cloud save eating glitch, if you're curious, it ate my autosaves but didn't touch manual saves.


Ranting and yelling and flaming isn't going to get the bug fixed any faster.
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:07 am

Personally I've had nothing of the sort. I did have one minor gamebreaker but they patched that out with a workaroud. The Steam cloud save eating glitch, if you're curious, it ate my autosaves but didn't touch manual saves.


Ranting and yelling and flaming isn't going to get the bug fixed any faster.


What new patch are people talking about? There was only a patch on release day last week.
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:42 pm

Not a problem on my PS3 post patch. No V.A.T.S freezes like the people here are reporting. I didn't have any major problems before the patch. I did notice the patch opened up Miguel's Pawn Shop in Westside. The building was showing up on the map as a building you could enter but you couldn't, with the new patch now you can.
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:24 pm

I've had my main game save lock up and it is unplayable, the right anolog stick is completely unresponsive, I've had to start back at the save at the beginning of the game...

I hope they can fix that in a bug, I'm keeping the save.

It is unacceptable that you design a game to be played hundreds of hours but have bugs that can lock up a game, or even an entire save file, so restarting the console or loading a save will still not work, its just bad software and programming.

Its a great game looking around the major bugs, I'm obviously starting a new character, but my respect for this game developer and publisher is at an all time low. Very disappointed.
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:03 am

What new patch are people talking about? There was only a patch on release day last week.


New patch was released today. Not out for 360 yet.

And Rahu X the PC has probably 1/4th of the problems that the 360/PS3 are having and 90% of those problems can be fixed through console commands.
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:49 pm

Did anyone else get that stupid computer covers up the whole screen bug????? I'm so angry right now. :swear:
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:48 am

Did anyone else get that stupid computer covers up the whole screen bug????? I'm so angry right now. :swear:


That's quite a common bug dude. For some people it happens every single computer in the game.. svcks man I know hopefully they fix it soon

Also guys, no one was expecting a bug free release. But these are GAME BREAKING, GAME HALTING, SAVE CORRUPTING bugs. We aren't complaining about the dog walking backwards in Goldsprings and Geckos stuck in the ground, ya hear?

And once again Rahu referring to your other post I missed, we are all aware that fixing 1 bug can cause 3 more. But the fact is they shouldn't release these patches without testing them! Once again they fall short on the testing department.

There is no excuse for releasing a patch that freezes the game within 15 minutes of loading a save. No excuse! I love Beth/Obsid + Fallout more than anyone else in the world but these issues are NOT acceptable!!!
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:10 am

I had no problems before the patch (excluding one forced return to the Playstation menu in 20 hours of gameplay) and I still don't have any problems. :shrug: May anyone please explain why I have no clue what people are complaining about from experience? I'm not claiming anyone is lying. I believe these people, but why am I not having issues?


I have no idea why you have no clue what people are complaining about. As for my experience, here it is:

I bought the game on launch day and started playing straight away. I played every day averaging 5 to 10 hours per day on the game.
I got up to around 45 to 50 hours of game play ... not having experienced a single major problem up to that point ... when experienced my first freeze/crash. From that point on, the game became unplayable as it crashes randomly in anywhere from 10 minutes to 2 hours of game play. The system completely locks up, preventing access to the XMB or anything else. I have let it set for over an hour in this state hoping it would unfreeze. No joy.

I have a launch date 60gb "fat" PS3 (model CEHCA01) running current (version 3.50) firmware update.
I have downloaded the F:NV patch version 1.01.

PS3 has been kept in a well ventilated shelf, dusted weekly and cleaned with compressed air monthly for four years.
No problems with any other software: have tried multiple Blu-ray games, PSN games, Blu-ray movies, PS2 and PS1 format DVD games and older DVD movies: all work fine.

Have tried: uninstalling game data and reinstalling game
Have tried: turning off all options such as autosave via in game menu
Have tried: playing while disconnected from the PSN.
Have tried: uninstalling/reinstalling while disconnected from PSN without installing the patch.
Have tried: uninstalling/reinstalling while disconnected from PSN and installing the patch.
Have tried: all of the above and starting a completely new character with completely new save data.
Have tried: restoring the PS3 from safe mode.
Have tried: rebuilding the database from safe mode.

Still having massive and completely random freezing and crashing.

I am now, as a last ditch and final effort, reformatting my PS3 just to be absolutely 100% certain that there is no corrupted game data hanging around.
I will then reinstall the game, with the patch, and attempt to create a new character and play.

I've lost http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i181/rainmagick/DSCF2978.jpg hourst of game play.
So, yes, I am complaining. I'm not whining and I'm not bashing Beth or Obsidian. But, yeah, I'm complaining.
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:24 am

No it is not my machine. My god if you are as ignorant as the guy I am quoting please don't post in this topic as you have no idea what you are talking about and will serve to do nothing more than incite a unnecessary flame war.

If you say you have not experienced any bugs then I believe you. But you have to realize you are extremely lucky and that more people are experiencing save corrupts, game breaking bugs and glitches than those who aren't.




Wasn't gonna buy into this because I have only had 3 hard locks in over 50 hours but here I go, where do you get your stats from, more people are getting game breaking bugs than those who arn't? WTF are you on? Relax, take a chill pill, go and play with your little one or your GF and realise that you are full of BS! How many copies worldwide do you think they have sold of NV? 10Million? More? The ONLY people who come here and post in this area are those who ARE having problems so even if 1000 people are having issues and come here to type what is that out of 10 Million?

FFS ! It is your systems people, look after them, keep them well ventilated, and when you shut down the game make sure you press QUIT before exiting, don't exit the game using the 'P' button until you are back in the menu, you see when you hit QUIT it releases the game cache and Memory if you just exit you will corrupt your saved game data over time, same thing happened with FO3 and Oblivion on the PS3 and probably 360!

Also make sure you use mulitple saves, I have no sympathy for people who use one saved game and then 60 hours in complain that it is broken, unlike other games out atm you CAN save almost as much as you want to!
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:19 am

Wasn't gonna buy into this because I have only had 3 hard locks in over 50 hours but here I go, where do you get your stats from, more people are getting game breaking bugs than those who arn't? WTF are you on? Relax, take a chill pill, go and play with your little one or your GF and realise that you are full of BS! How many copies worldwide do you think they have sold of NV? 10Million? More? The ONLY people who come here and post in this area are those who ARE having problems so even if 1000 people are having issues and come here to type what is that out of 10 Million?

FFS ! It is your systems people, look after them, keep them well ventilated, and when you shut down the game make sure you press QUIT before exiting, don't exit the game using the 'P' button until you are back in the menu, you see when you hit QUIT it releases the game cache and Memory if you just exit you will corrupt your saved game data over time, same thing happened with FO3 and Oblivion on the PS3 and probably 360!

Also make sure you use mulitple saves, I have no sympathy for people who use one saved game and then 60 hours in complain that it is broken, unlike other games out atm you CAN save almost as much as you want to!


1000? not everyone who has problems with this game is complaining about it in this forum, google the internet, google for a ps3 forum.
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:43 pm

1000? not everyone who has problems with this game is complaining about it in this forum, google the internet, google for a ps3 forum.


Also, a lot of people noticing bugs won't go online to complain.

Bethesda has already released a patch which is claimed to address more than 200 issues, so clearly those bugs existed in the code -- every single player's code --, and they're working on the next patch. The fact that some people didn't notice any bugs even before the first patch doesn't mean a thing, and certainly not that those bugs didn't exist. I'm getting tired of the "blaming the victim" stuff some people pull. Bethesda has acknowleged issues with "instability", which they're currently working on. But I guess they're wrong, because some players have decided that there is no such thing, only instable consoles...
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:04 pm

Also, a lot of people noticing bugs won't go online to complain.



This is very true.
As a matter of fact, I only really came to the forums when my game started freezing and crashing. Up until that point, I just laughed off the glitches and quest bugs as minor irritants. I delt with that sort of thing in Oblivion (anyone remember the bug with the Mystery at Harlun's Watch?) so, to me, it was no big deal to wait for an eventual patch or series of patches.

I'm not making light of any glitch or bug problems. Not at all. My point is that, like Myxh said, a lot of people don't report bugs.
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:13 am

This is very true.
As a matter of fact, I only really came to the forums when my game started freezing and crashing. Up until that point, I just laughed off the glitches and quest bugs as minor irritants. I delt with that sort of thing in Oblivion (anyone remember the bug with the Mystery at Harlun's Watch?) so, to me, it was no big deal to wait for an eventual patch or series of patches.

I'm not making light of any glitch or bug problems. Not at all. My point is that, like Myxh said, a lot of people don't report bugs.


Too true, I'm having a similar problem. (I know they will patch the quests and some of the other bugs *most of them anyhow*) But I have mainly been coming on here to see if they are going to fix the fundamentally game crippling bug of the crashing and freezing.. which until it gets sorted I'm afraid I am not going to load the game until the devs come out with a genuine fix

Even After update 1.01. I am still getting the crashes and freezing glitches. I could complain about every little glitch that I have seen but I'm confident these will be ironed out.
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:57 pm

it seems like alot of people cant realize any bugs, because they cant even play the game an half hour without freezing. or what is about the many topics with that people? are they lying?

i had 2 freezes within 23 hours, and 1 freeze before the patch ( 30 min ingame time before the patch), i know they already fixed 200 issues, and there are ALOT more to fix. where did you read they are working on the second patch? im a bit confused because of the different releases of the first patch...
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:46 am

OK. I have deleted a few posts. I understand that the problems some people are experiencing is an emotive subject but please keep posts constructive, civil and avoid "stirring the pot". Thanks guys.
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:47 am

i can't even LOL anymore. it's so irritating.
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:31 pm

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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:25 am

I only have one thing to say.

I'd like to see you do better. :meh:
Seriously, I'm getting sick of all the hostility on here. It's just a freaking game people.


So people should never complain about any broken products, that is probably the most [censored] thing you could ever tell anyone that doesn't live in a third world country. You can disagree with his complaint all you want, but simply saying "oh shut up or prove that you can do it better" isn't how to world works. Ofcourse I can't develop a game better than Obsidian or Bethesda, I can't manufacture a car or fly an airplane, but since none of it is my job or hobby then I hardly have a reason to even attempt. PC gamers can accept that a game doesn't work on all rigs without some tweaking, but there aren't all that many types of software nor hardware for consoles.

Oh btw I don't own any type of console, I just wanted to come to this section to see how the game ran on consoles.
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:38 am

I only have one thing to say.

I'd like to see you do better. :meh:
Seriously, I'm getting sick of all the hostility on here. It's just a freaking game people.



We aren't paid to do better. We are the paying customer in case you forgot.
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:39 pm

I think what it boils down to is that

1: There are bugs
2: Some of these bugs are highly unacceptable
3: With code this massive, it's impossible to catch/see all the different bugs that crop up.

For instance. Let's say you start in Goodsprings. Let's say there are about 10 different places that you can go and each of those places has 10 other places close by that you might go. That's already100 different paths and that's only going to 2 points. Now imagine 100 different places where you can visit them all in different orders and that's millions of possible paths. Then alone each of those paths there are things you can do or ignore, people you can talk to, ignore, kill, monsters to ignore/kill, loot/not loot. You end up with trillions of different ways to play the game, thousands upon thousands of different ways to make characters.... they can't test everything.

There will be bugs that pop up that are highly unacceptable and downright not-acceptable. Just because a lot of people are seeing them now doesn't mean that they did see them in testing. It doesn't make it any better or more acceptable, but sometimes that happens. You can't predict everything that someone will do in a game and there are lots of people that like to try non-standard things and that can cause bugs.

I know there are bugs following the story for some people as well, but depending on what you pick up/buy/sell/drop, what chests you open, how you deal with situations causes a lot of variation that can't all be tested. Games this big will have bugs, and they should get the critical ones fixed before release... unfortunately they don't always come up in testing. Just please provide as much information to them as you can so they can look into what's causing a given bug so they can get it fixed. Knowledge is the key here.
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:18 pm

I think what it boils down to is that

1: There are bugs
2: Some of these bugs are highly unacceptable
3: With code this massive, it's impossible to catch/see all the different bugs that crop up.

For instance. Let's say you start in Goodsprings. Let's say there are about 10 different places that you can go and each of those places has 10 other places close by that you might go. That's already100 different paths and that's only going to 2 points. Now imagine 100 different places where you can visit them all in different orders and that's millions of possible paths. Then alone each of those paths there are things you can do or ignore, people you can talk to, ignore, kill, monsters to ignore/kill, loot/not loot. You end up with trillions of different ways to play the game, thousands upon thousands of different ways to make characters.... they can't test everything.

There will be bugs that pop up that are highly unacceptable and downright not-acceptable. Just because a lot of people are seeing them now doesn't mean that they did see them in testing. It doesn't make it any better or more acceptable, but sometimes that happens. You can't predict everything that someone will do in a game and there are lots of people that like to try non-standard things and that can cause bugs.

I know there are bugs following the story for some people as well, but depending on what you pick up/buy/sell/drop, what chests you open, how you deal with situations causes a lot of variation that can't all be tested. Games this big will have bugs, and they should get the critical ones fixed before release... unfortunately they don't always come up in testing. Just please provide as much information to them as you can so they can look into what's causing a given bug so they can get it fixed. Knowledge is the key here.


Close...but no cigar for you!
What you just wrote is exactly the kind of stuff you pay BETA testers for. Their job is to verify these things. The state the game is today is ridiculous. They never beta tested it.
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