Why did the Overseer allow James in?

Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:43 am

Originally, Vault 101 was meant to test those inside the vault- as 43 had 20 men, ten women and one panther, the people inside was to be tested on whether they would survive indefinite isolation within a vault. And for the matter of the Enclave wanting in on Vault 101, has anyone here played Fallout 2? If so, spoil the surprise yourself
The scouting party didn't have the Overseer's wife in it, the armoured vault suit I think belonged to Old Lady Palmer's (lady who gave you a sweetroll) Daughter, Anne Palmer, because on the overseers terminal it states so.
Anyway, joining in with everyone else here, James was a doctor and the vault didn't have a docter, so in desperate times, the Vault was opened and even though that goes against the original concept when the experiment with 101 originated, so in order to preserve the better parts of the experiment the Overseer made James and everyone else keep James's inclusion into the vault classified. Which is understandable, when you look at what happened when James left the vault later.

which gets us up to the events of :nuke: :fallout: :nuke:
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Tiff Clark
 
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:43 pm

Of course... it failed the experement, since Vault 101 couldn't survive being completly cutoff from the outside world. But, there are worse ways that experement could have failed...

Poor Vault 87 dwellers... Heck, poor Vault 12 Dwellers...
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:16 pm

Because that egomaniacal power [censored] didn't think enough to steer the G.O.A.T. to churn out more doctors to replace the original medical staff from the vault's beginning.
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:50 pm

I've been reading about vaults and vault history over at Fallout Wiki, and have read about the strictness and dictatorship of the latest Overseer in vault 101. Not to mention his strict "no one enters, no one leaves"-policy. This makes me wonder why he allowed James and his newborn child in in the first place. Coming from the outside, James might have told the other vaultdwellers how it was like on the outside (for instance, that Megaton was close by, a fairly safe town). This might again lead to more people wanting to go out and explore. So I can't see why he would allow such a thing.

I am also wondering how James came in contact with the Overseer in the first place. He never went out, and I imagine you can't hear anyone banging on the vault door from inside the vault.



That's a good question, and sticking to the classic Fallout (and why shouldn't we?) credo, it shouldn't have happened. Of course, if it didn't happen then it would have violated the whole story of FO3 to begin with. It's just Bethesda writing their way out of a corner.

If we look back to FO1, the vault dweller may leave the vault but look what happens when he tried to return. Someone like that can't be assimilated back into the population, irradiated and whatnot. So in essence, it is contradictory to the FO universe, but it is what it is.
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:12 am

Anne Palmer could not be Amata's mother.

She is Jonas Mother.

However it is possible that Agnes (who was ambassador to Megaton) is.

Also, however unlikely, she could be the former overseer, since it is never specifically stated that the former overseer was male.


Another thing that "bugs" me is the fact that people constantly talk about Megaton being build right after the bombs fell.
because it consisted of people that wanted to get in there. It is likely that it is build after that (since Manya talks about megaton being build and she is 80-ish so Megaton is definitely build after 2100.

I always tought it was people that came from the rubble of Springvale and other small settlements that knew the vault was there came over there after they had sat out the fallout and bombings for years in their owm fallout and/or bombshelters.

Then camped out in front of 101 for a few months and finally gave up and ran into the Church of Atom coots and build megaton.

That's the most obvious thing innit?
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:11 am

Another thing that "bugs" me is the fact that people constantly talk about Megaton being build right after the bombs fell.
because it consisted of people that wanted to get in there. It is likely that it is build after that (since Manya talks about megaton being build and she is 80-ish so Megaton is definitely build after 2100.

I always tought it was people that came from the rubble of Springvale and other small settlements that knew the vault was there came over there after they had sat out the fallout and bombings for years in their owm fallout and/or bombshelters.

Then camped out in front of 101 for a few months and finally gave up and ran into the Church of Atom coots and build megaton.

That's the most obvious thing innit?

Actually, she doesn't say Megaton was founded when she was a kid, she says they build the walls when she was a kid. Her timeline goes something like this:

1- People tried to get into V101
2- They gave up and took shelter in the crater
3- They evolved into a settlement, but because of the constant raider attacks, they never got too strong
4- Her father, who was caravaner, rallied people and the CoA to build walls using the scrap airplanes
5- The wall made the settlement secure and more people moved in, and helped by the caravans contacts her father had, grew
6- They build the water purification plant

That means only 4 and after *had* to have happened in her lifetime. It's perfectly plausible that 1 and 2 were right after the war.
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:38 am

PLUS--one may say the radiation kills fast and the opposite effect that it kind of preserves life. Ghouls age seems to range 200+ years.
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Post » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:00 am

yet another problem with the enclave experimnets.
the control vaults in all instances are flawed and therefore not control vaults at all.
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Post » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:27 pm

James was allowed access cause that dude is one smooth talking mofo
yet another problem with the enclave experimnets.
the control vaults in all instances are flawed and therefore not control vaults at all.

So ya change ya mind? Ya really don't like the experiment, don't ya.
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