The funny thing about this is I don't like mixing my skills. By that I mean I like to keep Melee, Magic and Range seperate. I don't mind mixing Magic and Melee if it's a Paladin or a Battlemage but I usually like to focus on one area and try to make them perfect, instead of having multiple skill tress that will all be around average, instead of having a single best, though you only did list a few skills that are possible to max, i've never never been a fan on bows and magic. The one thing I like to do is make an all-round character that can master everything 100% (but only if you can perfect them).

I have decided though, but thanks for the input. One day I may try it. And I do play on Master or will

No need to be so melodramatic. If you have been doing any modding on the ES series then you know by both Beths admission and just by playing the games, they have actually used many ideas of their fans. Didn't I read somewhere that Oscuro is now working for Beth? For those missing features of previous games I can understand if feels that they are going on deaf ears, but I think they are heard, it's a matter of giving feedback that can be implemented without excluding another large group of players. It's a matter balance to make the majority happy. Not an easy task. Personally, I think they have done a fantastic job, would I like things to change to suit myself? Sure I would, but I do understand if they may the game to only suit me, they would be excluding another large group of players and I'm realistic enough to know they probably just aren't going to keep me in mind over them.

I have had a few ideas of what I'd like to see and I've posted a few of them in other threads-ideas on how to make the guild quests a bit more rewarding for both casual and your more hard core players-and little things I would like to see, such as removal of the "steal" over items to add a bit more risk and excitement over what to pick up and not to pick up. Overall, skyrim has been a joy to play and I believe they have worked hard to make a game for people to enjoy playing. The series is evolving and I'm one of the players who loves where it is going, even if there isn't the level of complexity that I desire. Perhaps in later installments they will be able to create a game that appeals to both sides.

Forums are by nature full of complainers; especially when the forum is for a new product.

Logically, if you are enjoying the game you will be playing it. Unless you have extra time and are unable to play, then you spend most of your time reading about the thing you would like to play but cannot. The real problem however is that most reasonable people who enjoy what they're playing lurk all the time. I don't blame them, I'm one of them!

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I wonder why you value negative opinions differently than compliments. Why is someoene complaining about something in any way worse than someone else praising it? What's inherently better in praising something?

If someone comes in and spouts ?Skyrim is the best game ever?, why is that inherently better than someone else coming in and spouting ?Beth, Skyrim is the worst TES game ever??

Why?

Look at reasons backing up those opinions. It's there you'll find whether they have any real value, be them compliments or harsh critiques.

Lol, you don't know what a "degenerated" forum is.

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Those are 8 million times worse than these forums, which aren't really that bad, you are just looking for it. (as well as contributing to it, congrats)

Close. Obsidian, actually. Bethesda has hired several Morrowind and Oblivion modders over the years, though. You're absolutely right about that. They keep pretty close tabs on the community. It's obvious they incorporated many Morrowind mods into Oblivion and many Oblivion mods into Skyrim.

Modding the games is a surer way of influencing Bethesda's future design decisions than posting on forums.

you people really seem to have a hard time with the concept of enjoying something that you do not believe to be the second-coming. i love skyrim, but it has serious flaws; discussing problems and fixes is FAR more important than BSing back and forth about that time cicero fought a dragon, dont you think?

Half the fun of this game, or any, is how entertaining the forums are. I don't have anyone I play with, so coming here and discussing things is a blast. If everyone always agreed with everyone else and only had happy thoughts, that would get old pretty quickly. Generally, gamers are people who think about things - many see games as mindless entertainment, but you can't be a zombie and play games. As a result, of course people are going to comment on what they like and dislike - granted, not always in productive ways, but expecting all of us to act in the same way and approach things in the same way just because we're gamers is a bit short-sighted.

Shutzz upz noobz!!

You have serious issues if people being negative about a game is making you "go nuts".

I enjoy the game and have complaints about it by the way, we're not all fan boys or haters with nothing inbetween. Grow up.

Well I think I've observed: lot's of "wow I'm so great at gaming I'm going to blast this game for being way too easy" and lot's of "Wow this game "stinks" because this character is under-powered due to level scaling or something".

But this appears typical of the release of any major new game. And if in fact others have said this pattern would occur even before release.

That said, I think there are also some very applicable and thoughtful posts, both positive and negative.

I'm guessing in a few months, things will settle down.

Instead of creating a useless thread and becoming part of the crowd that make this place so "negative", why don't you go create a thread discussing about what you think are "fun aspects" of the game and "share" what type of "adventures" you been through?

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World fo Warcraft official forums are worst they are full of racist jokes,insultings,and trolling ,Bethesda forums are fine.

Ouch, a stab at console players. :facepalm:

Eventually we, the dumbed down console players, will be in the same situation. .... Whining at those dumbed down mobile device players....it's just a matter of time

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