#OCCUPY WALL STREET

Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:59 am

Crytek make a playlist like this. Wall Street 24/7 in honor of the movement. lol.
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Mark Hepworth
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:40 am

No.

The Occupy Wall Street movement is a movement by people who have no idea of economics or hard work and prefer to have everything handed to them rather than working for it. Although Crytek can compare in a sense, seeing as they won't fix their game.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:17 am

I wasn't gonna reply to this, but since I'm on a rant I might as well.

First, I think that playlist would be amusing, so yeah, I'd like to see it. Would it happen - even if Crytek were still interested in doing anything with this game? No. There are too many people who would be pissy about it because they can't just get a laugh out of something and go on. But a playlist and a little message in the news ticker would be funny.

@Souperintendent

No, that isn't necessarily true. While the people who are protesting are a varied group, they aren't all simply people who want stuff handed to them. Those kind of broad generalizations just don't hold up.

Part of the protests stem from bailouts. The people who are protesting are people who just saved the banks and were repaid with bogus fees ($5 a month to use an ATM card). This seems small, and it is, but it is a small part of a larger problem contributing to the negative attitude in the air nowadays. Then Bank of America turns around and releases a nonsense statement about how they're "trying to be more transparent" with their fees. It's enough to piss anybody off. It's an insult to their intelligence, but that's how these guys are.

There's also a big gap in tax rates between the rich and the middle class. People who earn an income pay about 30%. People whose money comes from something like a trust fund pay about half that. Who lives on trust fund money? The rich. That doesn't mean rich people don't earn an income and they aren't being taxed fairly on it, but there are also billions of dollars of wealth out there that some are living on that is being lightly taxed.

One could likewise point to income inequality in general. In the United States, 1% of the population controls about 43% of the financial wealth. Another 19% control roughly 50% of the wealth, leaving the bottom 80% to share 7%. If you looked at the top half of the 1% you'd see that the wealth is even more concentrated. It doesn't really make sense to dismiss 80% of people as being lazy. I don't think 20% of the people are doing 100% of the work in America, do you? Yet they control 93% of America's wealth. All you have to do is look at the numbers and you can see something isn't right. Hell, the wealth of the bottom 80% shrinks every year - down 2% since 98.

What happens is the guys with money use that money to influence politicians to enact laws which create an imbalance. They make it easier for them to keep their money and as a result, harder for the rest of the population to gain any money. It's unfair. Everyone has the right to petition their government, but I certainly doubt the founders meant it in a way that amounts to outright bribery.

Things were supposed to be getting better, but they've ended up getting worse. Now people are starting to think about why things are getting worse. I don't think it's such a bad idea for one large group of people who have so little to look at a small group of people who have so much and consider that they may be what's making it worse. Nobody who accumulated riches ever did it without taking advantage of somebody, and people are realizing it.

Did you ever listen to Dylan? A very fitting last verse to When the Ship Comes In goes like this:

Then they'll raise their hands
Sayin' we'll meet all your demands
But we'll shout from the bow your days are numbered
And like Pharaoh's tribe
They'll be drownded in the tide
And like Goliath, they'll be conquered.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:16 am

@Duke

The thing about the bailouts is that the bailouts originated from the government, as did the economic decline. The economic decline is due in part to Chriss Dodd and Barney Frank, who passed a legislature that practically forced banks to give away loans to people who couldn't pay them back. This is what caused the recession, and so the government decided to bail out companies/banks on Wall Street, but of course all those bailouts and stimulus packages didn't do anything, and were wasteful expenditures. These people should be protesting in front of the White House, not Wall Street.

As for taxes, yes, taxes need to be adjusted. But another problem with taxes is that much of people's taxes go towards unemployed people who just choose not to work. Not that they are looking for work and are only temporarily unemployed--but people who just don't want to work, because they prefer to have things handed to them. So people who work end up getting a cut of their check taken out to pay people who live a lax life.

And some people who are unemployed are unemployed because employers don't want to hire people, due in part to the recent Health Care bill, which is the leading reason of unemployment, as it adds problems to employers.

Companies influencing politicians is indeed partly the company's fault, but more the politician's fault. I mean, if someone walks up to me, gives me a thousand dollars, and tells me to kill a random woman off the street, who is more at fault, the one who told me, or me? I have free will, so I can choose to not act in a direction. If the government officials weren't so corrupt and selfish, we wouldn't have this problem.

Lastly, many people think that these companies are just handed their wealth. They aren't--they use capitalism to gain their wealth. Bill Gates used his genius to build Microsoft, Earl Nightingale his wealth, as well as many others. For example, one protester was holding up a sign that said "Throw me a bone--pay for my student loan". When asked why he believed that, he answered "Because of greedy rich people". They earned their money--what they do with that is their business.

In the end, the main problem is the government. However, the problem is that people take what government officials say at face value, which is a dangerous thing. My issue is that they are protesting capitalism and the country that allows them to protest in the first place. There's ways to go about this issue, but they're attacking the wrong people.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:21 pm

I didn't notice I was on Infowars.com

Politics & gaming, don't mix.
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