Ambient dungeons -> game won't load : IV

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:04 am

My game won't load with Ambient Dungeons activated. It just freezes at the initial loading screen when you first load Oblivion. Why? Here's my load order:

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Masters for: autosave.ess00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm09  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0A  DA Run Fatigue.esm0B  CustomSpellIcons.esm0C  HorseCombatMaster.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.1]0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp**  PyFFI-Optimized Vanilla Meshes Patch.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp11  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp12  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp17  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  Fran Armor Add-on.esp1B  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp1C  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1D  Ls More Butterflies and Fireflies Not In Interiors 5.0 Quarter.esp1E  Enhanced Seasons.esp  [Version 1.1]1F  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]20  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]21  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp22  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]23  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]24  phinix-waterfix.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp25  AmbientTownSounds.esp26  MIS Low Wind.esp27  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp28  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp29  Louder Nirnroot Sound.esp2A  Rainbows.esp2B  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]2C  WindowLightingSystem.esp++  Cobl Bookjackets.esp2D  Days&Months.esp2E  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.2.2]2F  diversegrasses.esp30  HUDI.esp31  ImprovedSigns.esp32  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.7]33  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.7]34  RoadSigns.esp++  VA_BetterGold.esp35  wd purse of wonders.esp36  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.7.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp37  ClassyClothingCompendium.esp38  Pek_Painting_Exchanger.esp39  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp3A  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]3B  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]3C  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp3D  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3E  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]3F  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]40  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]41  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp42  RealitySpectreStars2HeavenBetterPotionsOOOEffects.esp43  Brighter Torches.esp  [Version 1.1]44  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]45  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]46  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp47  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]48  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]49  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]4A  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4B  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4C  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]4D  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4E  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4F  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]51  Fransfemale.esp52  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]53  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp54  BenirusManorRebuilt.esp55  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]56  24HrArenaAliveV2.esp57  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp58  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]59  Knights.esp5A  Knights - Book Jackets.esp5B  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]5C  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp5D  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5E  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]5F  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]60  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]61  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]62  ANB_Item_Switchers.esp63  BlackScreenSneakFix.esp64  kuerteeCustomisableHUDComponents.esp65  FewerOBGatesNOCLOSE.esp66  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]67  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]68  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]69  DA Sprint.esp6A  WPHealthRegen.esp  [Version 1.0]6B  RealisticHealth.esp6C  EnchantmentRestore.esp6D  attack and hide easier v2.1.esp6E  sycHearNoEvil.esp  [Version 1.0]6F  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp70  kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp71  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp72  Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp  [Version 1.65]73  RealisticLeveling.esp74  Legendary Abilities-Shield MOJ.esp  [Version 2.0]75  Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp76  Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp++  Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp77  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]78  bgBalancingEVOptionalBetterRedguards.esp79  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]7A  ArgonianFeets.esp7B  MRP - Loading area.esp7C  BetterExplosions.esp7D  Get Wet.esp++  Better Lava by elveon.esp7E  MotionBlur.esp++  Faction Rank Fix.esp7F  MiniMap.esp80  Scathe.esp  [Version 0.1]81  Better Eyja.esp82  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp83  KvatchRankFix.esp84  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp85  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp86  Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]87  Script Effect Icon Replacer and Sound Disabler.esp  [Version 1.0]88  Bashed Patch, 0.esp89  Streamline 3.1.esp

I'm running the latest version of OBGE. The one you download from the OBGE OP.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:01 am

Sounds like your missing a master, usually an ESM or another ESP. that needs to be active for the mod to run.

I don't know anything about that mod, but I bet someone else do.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:12 pm

My game won't load with Ambient Dungeons activated. It just freezes at the initial loading screen when you first load Oblivion. Why? Here's my load order:

Spoiler

Masters for: autosave.ess00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm09  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0A  DA Run Fatigue.esm0B  CustomSpellIcons.esm0C  HorseCombatMaster.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.1]0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp**  PyFFI-Optimized Vanilla Meshes Patch.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp11  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp12  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp17  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  Fran Armor Add-on.esp1B  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp1C  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1D  Ls More Butterflies and Fireflies Not In Interiors 5.0 Quarter.esp1E  Enhanced Seasons.esp  [Version 1.1]1F  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]20  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]21  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp22  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]23  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]24  phinix-waterfix.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp25  AmbientTownSounds.esp26  MIS Low Wind.esp27  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp28  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp29  Louder Nirnroot Sound.esp2A  Rainbows.esp2B  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]2C  WindowLightingSystem.esp++  Cobl Bookjackets.esp2D  Days&Months.esp2E  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.2.2]2F  diversegrasses.esp30  HUDI.esp31  ImprovedSigns.esp32  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.7]33  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.7]34  RoadSigns.esp++  VA_BetterGold.esp35  wd purse of wonders.esp36  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.7.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp37  ClassyClothingCompendium.esp38  Pek_Painting_Exchanger.esp39  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp3A  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]3B  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]3C  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp3D  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3E  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]3F  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]40  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]41  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp42  RealitySpectreStars2HeavenBetterPotionsOOOEffects.esp43  Brighter Torches.esp  [Version 1.1]44  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]45  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]46  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp47  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]48  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]49  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]4A  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4B  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4C  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]4D  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4E  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4F  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]51  Fransfemale.esp52  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]53  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp54  BenirusManorRebuilt.esp55  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]56  24HrArenaAliveV2.esp57  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp58  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]59  Knights.esp5A  Knights - Book Jackets.esp5B  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]5C  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp5D  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5E  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]5F  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]60  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]61  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]62  ANB_Item_Switchers.esp63  BlackScreenSneakFix.esp64  kuerteeCustomisableHUDComponents.esp65  FewerOBGatesNOCLOSE.esp66  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]67  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]68  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]69  DA Sprint.esp6A  WPHealthRegen.esp  [Version 1.0]6B  RealisticHealth.esp6C  EnchantmentRestore.esp6D  attack and hide easier v2.1.esp6E  sycHearNoEvil.esp  [Version 1.0]6F  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp70  kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp71  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp72  Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp  [Version 1.65]73  RealisticLeveling.esp74  Legendary Abilities-Shield MOJ.esp  [Version 2.0]75  Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp76  Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp++  Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp77  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]78  bgBalancingEVOptionalBetterRedguards.esp79  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]7A  ArgonianFeets.esp7B  MRP - Loading area.esp7C  BetterExplosions.esp7D  Get Wet.esp++  Better Lava by elveon.esp7E  MotionBlur.esp++  Faction Rank Fix.esp7F  MiniMap.esp80  Scathe.esp  [Version 0.1]81  Better Eyja.esp82  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp83  KvatchRankFix.esp84  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp85  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp86  Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]87  Script Effect Icon Replacer and Sound Disabler.esp  [Version 1.0]88  Bashed Patch, 0.esp89  Streamline 3.1.esp

I'm running the latest version of OBGE. The one you download from the OBGE OP.

IIRC, you also need You Are Here.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:53 pm

Yeah, I have You Are Here. The readme says it doesn't need Screen Effects anymore. So I don't need that.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:25 pm

It's not Ambient Dungeons that's causing the game to freeze, it's You Are Here. I wonder why?

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:19 pm

It's a load order thing. BOSS places YAH right below Oblivion.esm, and from what little testing I did, it appears to have an issue with FCOM_Convergence.esm. Load YAH below FCOM and all is good. I'm tempted to find out why that is the case...

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:21 pm

I systematically went through and removed each record in YAH one by one, and nothing helped. So I don't know... Before FCOM no good; after FCOM good.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:37 am

It's a load order thing. BOSS places YAH right below Oblivion.esm, and from what little testing I did, it appears to have an issue with FCOM_Convergence.esm. Load YAH below FCOM and all is good. I'm tempted to find out why that is the case...

That's weird. I have no problems loading the game with YAH loading before FCOM_Convergence.esm, e.g. as BOSS places it. Not an expert, but I can't see how they would conflict either as FCOM_Convergence.esm doesn't touch any of the YAH records.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:58 pm

Hm, interesting. I don't know why FCOM is giving me problems, but it sure is.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:16 pm

Hm, interesting. I don't know why FCOM is giving me problems, but it sure is.

If you can't find a solution to your problem I suggest you get Let there be darkness
Might want to tangle with the Oblivion.ini however back it up before you do anything
I would say that YAH is causing a problem not FCOM unless you didn't set up FCOM correctly?

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:54 pm

If you can't find a solution to your problem I suggest you get Let there be darkness
Might want to tangle with the Oblivion.ini however back it up before you do anything
I would say that YAH is causing a problem not FCOM unless you didn't set up FCOM correctly?

Yeah, I misspoke. FCOM probably isn't the problem. I'm sure it's YAH. I don't know why though. YAH only has like 6 records.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:26 am

Wait when does your game freeze exactly? Wait forget what I said I don't know what to say I used ambient dungeons a while ago with FCOM and it didn't really bother me...

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:14 pm

It was freezing at the initial load screen when you first fire up Oblivion. I just merged YAH and Ambient Dungeons, then removed the dependency on YAH.