If Skyrim was a lump of gold...

Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:56 pm

Really?

So if they released Morrowind today across all platforms exactly as it was when it came out, all talk of bad graphics would stop?

No grass, just a plain green flat floor... I guess you are right... that DOES sound beautiful.


Graphics mean next to nothing in videogames. (Just look at minecraft, for example.) If you think that a game is not good because it doesnt have 2011 graphical power than you shouldnt even call yourself a gamer.
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Damian Parsons
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:04 am

Of course it wouldnt stop, because all people care about today is graphics and multiplayer.


I dissagree, I personally don't care about the Graphic nor Multiplayer.
In The Elder Scrolls all I care about is the beautifull story in it.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:25 pm

Whereas I liked Morrowind's directions, some where just vague and unhelpful.
Some gave landmarks and excellent directions.
Some said east (for me to later find out that meant anything from 1 to 179 degrees).

I can understand the complaints about the compass, but really is it so hard to believe your character could be holding a map and the NPC could actually point it out to you? (There I just gave you a valid RP angle on the map system).

- The UI for me is functional (could be better...much better, but it works for me - could also have been much worse... much, much worse). For console gamers it seems to be great, for PC gamers it can (will) be modded.
- Crafting balance is messed up that is very true, but equally it's something you have to go out of your way to do, and most people probably haven't heard about it (bearing in mind those that use forums tend to be in the very small minority of a games userbase).
- PC graphics are great for me, more than adequate. Whilst I realise that some people spend insane amounts of PC hardware, and I think it's right to want to see the results of such expenditure, they surely must realise there are other people out there (many of whom don't, or can't, have acess to the cutting edge of PC hardware).
- Level scaling to me is a good way of balancing the game to a certain extent. The current implementation is certainly better than Oblivion. Morrowind had more static camps and I did prefer that they had the better gear being very rare, but to say Morrowind had it perfected either is laughable. Either way, long before you reach the level cap in either you would have passed the max enemy scaling and became a god.
- Dragons do need to be made a bit tougher from what I have read, only met Frost Dragons at most in my playthrough so far and they are evil for my poor melee guy (basic Dragons are wimpy now but that's to be expected I have progressed beyond them).

Seems to me the vast majority of complaints seem to stem from overly high expectations (I read none of the hype, or advertising and I'm happy as larry).
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:36 pm

Graphics mean next to nothing in videogames. (Just look at minecraft, for example.) If you think that a game is not good because it doesnt have 2011 graphical power than you shouldnt even call yourself a gamer.


I agree, and yet people are chalking the graphics up as a major whinge factor. 99.9 % of the PC owners are lording it over us console owners because they have 'better graphics' power. So clearly it matters to some people.

Might I add that I expect 99.9 % of PC owners don't play Skyrim sitting in front of the fire on their settee with a 52" HD TV and 5.1 surround sound to help with the games immersion do they?

Most are tucked away under the stairs with a 15" CRT monitor! lol

So theres pros and cons. Given that you don't mind the graphics, I take it you are playing on a 386 pc from the 90's, after all, why spend loads of money on a games machine if the graphics mean squat?
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:37 pm

I'm a PC user I couldn't care less about the graphical quality comparisons.
If you play on X-Box. Great.
If you play on PC. Great.
If you play on PS3. svcks to be you (only kidding :)).
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:31 pm

Its a sad fact of human nature but it is true that people are MORE likely to complain about Item A than they are to take the time to come back and compliment Item A. Then there is the tall poppy syndrome... if a game is widely accepted as being near perfect ( scores are all in the 9s and 10s on review sites) then certain people feel the need to bring that game down to size by picking at every single one of its imperfections over and over again until the gloss starts to fade. Why do they do this? They claim it is to make Bethesda realise Skyrims imperfections or to make a better TES 6 or whatever hogwash they come up with!... In reality this is all rubbish and they know it... it is to feed their ego, to bring this almighty game down to size, to try to prove to everyone WHY what they think is FACT!

In reality most people who love the game even after 50 hours are too busy playing to come here and complain about it :)



Or maybe they don't like what you like.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:25 pm

PS3 users do tend to feel the bark end of the rough middle of the almost but not quite decayed style of rough end of most sticks when it comes to gaming. Not just Skyrim but GTAIV, GOW, Halo to name but a few.

Plus the online, although free, s costantly hacked and game developers find it hard to develop for due to certain aspects of the consoles capability being locked down to the max.

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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:44 pm

Skyrim is all hype and I can prove it: The lumps of gold should be shinier. They're just sort of...lumps. That are gold, I guess. Being carried around in my invisible 300-pound backpack along side so many sets of armor while I do all that running and jumping, they ought to get buffed, but no. They are just not appealing to look at, as items. I tried to role-play a noble who collects gold, but that choice has been taken away from me. What is the point of my gpu, and like, shaders and stuff, if the gold has no shine to it? Why implement HDR, only to never ever night-blind my character after looking at the shiny gold? This hardware wasn't free, you know. They are just taking advantage of modders to make the gold obscenely smooth and bright, like always. Also, it kills my immersion.


Skyrim is a good game.

Some things about Skyrim really svck.

Beth has made forums about Skyrim, so that we might place words there.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:55 pm

Waaaah, stop having opinions contrary to mine. I just can't bear to read things that don't make me feel good.

You don't see me making threads telling the fan boys to shut up. I could, but opinions are like [censored] holes and everyone's got one. advlts deal with it.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:42 pm

And if Skyrim was a lump of feces you guys would say it doesn't stink. Sad but true.

This. Lol
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:44 am

Waaaah, stop having opinions contrary to mine. I just can't bear to read things that don't make me feel good.

You don't see me making threads telling the fan boys to shut up. I could, but opinions are like [censored] holes and everyone's got one. advlts deal with it.


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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:43 pm

Waaaah, stop having opinions contrary to mine. I just can't bear to read things that don't make me feel good.

You don't see me making threads telling the fan boys to shut up. I could, but opinions are like [censored] holes and everyone's got one. advlts deal with it.


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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:32 pm

It's newer gen but can you at least agree there is less content wise on aspects of overall game play compared to it's predecessors?
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:25 pm

I dissagree, I personally don't care about the Graphic nor Multiplayer.
In The Elder Scrolls all I care about is the beautifull story in it.


People who actually know what it takes to make a good game excluded.
i was speaking of the majority
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:51 pm

...Grrr...

If Skyrim were a lump of gold, people might still complain because what they wanted was a glass of water.

Bethesda has always made games like this, mostly mindless entertaining ones that appeal on some level to just about everyone. There's no reason to think the next one will be much different, and some people will always get defensive and others will gripe.
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Iain Lamb
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:33 pm

Are you telling me that Skyrim is in fact , not actually a chunk of gold?
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Izzy Coleman
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:36 pm

Are you telling me that Skyrim is in fact , not actually a chunk of gold?


Not at all.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:53 pm

For me, games aren't about the graphics, or the game play, its about the story.... well go and read a book then!
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:29 pm

Type 'Morrowind' into You Tube if you want to see rubbish graphics.

Your argument lost all validity fool.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:36 am

I think the hype was too much. The game is beautiful and in my week of playing it, it has already skyrocketed to my Top 10 favorite games (hovering between the 2 and 3 position) but it still didn't meet ALL of my expectations. Marriage was too simple, Radiant Story wasn't what we thought, and Destruction magic is way underpowered when I'm fighting Elder Dragons or really high level dungeon people.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:02 am

Your argument lost all validity fool.


Wh? Pray tell. :cheat:
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Kieren Thomson
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:06 pm

Gold is overrated, especially when it is lumpy. Silver all the way.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:43 pm

The thing is, Skyrim isn't a lump of gold, skyrim is more like a sports car with a high powered engine, sleek design, and an old lawn chair as its seat. All we're asking for is that they take the old lawn chair out and put in some leather bucket seats.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:24 am

You folks on here moaning about stuff.

Skyrim is what it is and thats pretty damn near brilliant.

Just think, if they made it perfect you wouldn't buy the next one because perfect would mean this one didn't end.

They do it with Fifa, they don't put everything they can into a game so you wish they had and then buy the next one in the hopes of it being the perfect game.

Plus, also, you have to remember the time/budget constraints when making this game. I'm sure you wouldn't mind waiting another three years if it meant the game was bug/glitch free and perfect no matter how you played the game but I am sure the share holders would. They want it out now, with minimum overheads and costs and lets face it. The business of game making is making money out of our enjoyment.

So what if it isn't 100% perfect, you bought it didn't you? And 99.9% of you will buy the next one and the one after that.

Doesn't stop you having an opinion, or suggesting things that might make the game better but lets face it, human nature dictates that you can't please all the people all the time.

If the game was a lump of gold, you'd complain it was too heavy or not shiny enough, my advice is play it, enjoy it, discuss it. But don't moan about it.

It's just a game... Name me ONE thing that is perfect... (apart from this post)

i also dont understand all those whiners. skyrim is an amazing game (aside from some very annyoing bugs which have to be fixed), i have never played something like that before. all those threads complaining about stuff are an embarrassment for a game that might be among the best ever, its simply not justified.

i suppose the next thing will be flaming but whatever:

in shooters, fighting games etc, theres a huge group of people who say "the game svcks" cause they svck at the game.

in skyrim have the feeling people complain a lot cause they dont know how to play. people complaining about a lack of content probably never did some random things on their own or fast travel all the time. people complaining about destruction dont know how to make the best of it with enchantments and support by other magic schools. and so on. i played 140 hrs and i had some negative houghts about the game, but the longer i payed, the more the things they did seem right and i cant say anything else but i see perfection (except for bugs).
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