It sounds awsome, but its an apept spell i think, is it worth the magika etc. Does it do any decent damage?

Flame Atronach? I find mine useful enough, and my guy is a warrior.

no the flaming familiar is like a flaming wolf that explodes into enemies

Consider it does dmg that ignores armour (being elemental), if nothing else its a perfect anti undead buddy

Plus summons work even if you have companions, so its a good way to past the 1 npc buddy limit.

I do not know its damage, but what I can tell you, is that it makes your conjured creature vanish.

I wanted to make a conjurer that used flaming familiar as an attack spell, but it unsummons your summoned creature.

On the plus side, I think flaming familiar does have good range.

I might for fun try a conjurer that uses flaming familiar in one hand and a bound sword in the other.

It's called atronarch not familiar and it makes your conjured creature vanish because it is one for itself :facepalm:

And yes, i use it a lot. Using flame/frost/storm atronarch depending on your enemies weaknesses is key sometimes. Or just summon it to tank fire dragons.
It's also very cheap so you can spam it against tougher enemies abusing it's flame armor and explode. And it has ranged attacks as long as you don't have access to the storm atronarch.

It is a flaming wolf. We are not talking about Atronachs.

This is an actual conjuration you are talking about and it's not the Flame Atronach? I'm an expert of Conjuration and have yet to see this spell, where did you buy it?

You should perhaps not post on these forums anymore until you know a thing or two about the game. Thanks.

Ah, so it's a spoiler ^^ I only know the spectral "normal" familiar.

As a master of conjuration i haven't heard about it.

/edit: Ah found it using uesp...seems pretty bad. But it's very cheap so if you could spam it with both hands (don't take the dualcasting perk), it could be useful.

book is sold by vendors, I've seen it REALLY early in the game.

Daedra is king. Storm if your fighting a dragon.

I got the flaming familiar spell as a quest reward, but I forget where


I was quite annoyed to discover that it is a 'direct fire' type of spell that is treated as a conjured creature. Kind of ruins it.

Well, you could use the 'Have two summoned' creatures at once perk, so flaming familiar might be more useful at conjuration 100.

It is from a quest which you can't complete at low level (). The quest is or something. Not sure if you can buy it. At least I haven't seen it being sold.

Sold by vendors, not a spoiler, deal with it.

It's useless. It's basicly a destruction spell you can cast through Conjuration, but without any of the perks of Destruction and it unsummons any Atronarchs you might have, so pretty pointless.

The only time I ever found it useful was in that city built in dwemer ruins, in the dwemer tunnels underneath there is a part where you go up a flight of stairs and there is a destruction rune right at the top, you can't get into any position where you can shoot the rune to blow it up without being in the blast radius, but you can summon an exploding wolf that runs up and goes boom...

Well, a spell that can attcak around corners or from good cover might not be completely useless.

I really want to like flaming familiar.

You'd think that, but keep in mind, destruction damage is pitiful, and this thing's damage is even worse than destruction damage. You'd have to cast it a dozen times to kill anything.

You can only gain it via a quest afaik.

As for my opinion, its a living fireball, its ok once you can summon two minions at once, then you can have a dremora lord out (or a permanent pet if your mastered) and fire off continuous exploding puppies with the other hand.

As for the damage, it does not appear to be fantastic. It is a cheap aoe, comparable to a plain fireball, but it dies quickly if its attacked and it does not explode if its killed. It will also explode after a short period even if it can't path to its target in time, so its a little hit/miss.
To make good use of it you need long range summons, preferably 2/2 perks, so you can sumon it next to the targets, and you need to keep those targets distracted so they don't turn to attack it.

Like most temporary summons, it works best if you can cast it into another room while stealthed, and stay stealthed. Then you can just spam away while they clear the room. Spamming two at once is doable too once you have the perk.

I hate being negative, but did they even playtest this game?


I am enjoying the hell out of my duel mace wielding orc, but the magic seems borked.

In many ways it is, I still enjoy the game, and love my magic users, but how I wish they put in a little more effort and a little less "cut" when they re-built the magic system.

I didn't know of this spell, now I do. Stoopid spoilers. :sadvaultboy: