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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:11 pm

Have they shown off how it works yet? I am under the impression that since DS has two screens, it's going to be that really stupid cross-eyed 3D which means it won't work for some people (like me).

It won't be like that. The 3DS does have two screens, but only the top one will be displaying things in 3D. They have "shown it off," in a manner of speaking, at game conferences and such, but obviously that doesn't translate too well into screenshots and what-not. :P
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:18 pm

Right, I understand how normal 3-D works with the shuttered glasses. I just don't understand how you can just read into a program that's running and pull this 3D information and shift the camera location all without hindering performance as now you're doing twice the rendering seeing how every moment standing still involves 2 different images to render instead of 1. It's really cool if it works, but not having a way to test it right now, I'm a bit skeptical. Please note that I'm not saying that it doesn't work. I understand the theory behind it, but I'm still a bit skeptical.

It doesn't have to do anything special as far as reading into the running game code. The scene information is being sent to the video device driver anyway...all the driver has to do is make some minor adjustments to the data it's already getting from the game. The game is sending 3-D geometry info to be rendered into a 2-D image...the driver just has to slightly shift the PoV before rendering for each eye. It's like someone handing you a 3-D model of something and then you draw a picture of it. If you want a picture of it from a different angle they don't need to make you a new model...all you have to do is look at it from a different angle and draw another picture.

It absolutely cuts your framerate in half since it has to render each frame twice. It really works, but if you don't want to take someone else's word for it I totally understand. Like I said, it works, but it give me a headache, so it's a no-go for me.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:57 pm

If you can't afford a 3D system, check THIS out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mudweYKciog

Interesting. I may just have to try this.

If that doesn't work, then I really don't feel like dishing out the money for a new 3D monitor and 3D capable graphics card or two. So no 3D for me.

Besides, I don't feel like wearing clunky glasses just to play a game.

EDIT: I just tried that 3D driver thing and it didn't work for me. All it did was make my screen darker.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:21 am

If any of you have the inclination to try 3D, let me tell you it was the best decision I have ever made in gaming and Fallout 3/ New Vegas are both exceptionally good and enjoyable.

All the best!!!!


I might have the inclination once they figure out how to do it without silly glasses and headache-inducing flicker.

Until then, I stand by what I've said all along: "It was a gimmick in 1955, a gimmick around once a decade ever since, and still a gimmick."
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:13 am

I might have the inclination once they figure out how to do it without silly glasses and headache-inducing flicker.

Until then, I stand by what I've said all along: "It was a gimmick in 1955, a gimmick around once a decade ever since, and still a gimmick."



lol. I don't blame you at all for your skepticism. Some of you are right when you say that you will let "us early users test it out" and that you might consider it in a few years when it is bigger.

That being said, after about a good amount of hours of stressful setting up my projector/scree/nvidia drivers and making adjustments months ago, it really is finally perfectly playable.

It really is this simple for me. Sit in my awesome theater room, turn on computer and load FNV. When game is up press my 3d button....wallah perfect 3d. No flickering as some have stated, no bad effects. It really is beautifully amazing and immersive. I am obviously a very hardcoe and serious game, but it really is great technology. This is not some gimmicky cheep effect like putting on the red and blue colored glasses. These glasses, while looking a bit funny (but who cares cause your all alone anyway and they are quite comfortable), truly create one hell of an amazing affect. When I walk down the street in novac, it literally looks like people, stopsigns, fences, etc are all whizzing by me in my theater room as i walk. Very bad ass. and not that expensive. I got my projector/nvidia kit/screen etc for about 1200 bucks. Worth every penny
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:14 pm

That sounds pretty cool. I'd have to wear glasses over my glasses though.. :sadvaultboy:
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:25 am

No flickering as some have stated, no bad effects. It really is beautifully amazing and immersive. I am obviously a very hardcoe and serious game, but it really is great technology. This is not some gimmicky cheep effect like putting on the red and blue colored glasses.

How are you not getting flicker? That's how LCD shutter glasses work...they flicker. Is it just that you're not noticing it? I know some people are more sensitive to it than others...it drives me nuts.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:57 am

When they drop the redicoulsly high price for the glasses alone, then I may consider it, I'm an electronics engineer and understand the "cheap" hardware that's in use.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:36 am

...I'm not going to spend 1500 dollars on hardware for a game that uses 2007-spec graphics. The game is perfectly immersive as it is, in 2D, on my free CRT, using my 50 dollar secondhand video card.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:15 am

...I'm not going to spend 1500 dollars on hardware for a game that uses 2007-spec graphics. The game is perfectly immersive as it is, in 2D, on my free CRT, using my 50 dollar secondhand video card.



it is not for one game. it is for about 300 games (and 6-8 of which are designed specifically for the 3d hardware) bad company 2 anyone? , Resident evil 5, Metro 2033, starcraft 2 has a tab in game which turns on stereoscopic 3d etc etc.

If 1500 dollars is too much money for you, then of course don't get it. Most of us gamers that are using something like this are young professionals who can afford this type of thing. I seriously have a ridiculously cool 3d theater room which ran me 780 projector, 200 screen, 400 for receiver/blueray and speakers, and 1800 for my computer with an nvidia 480 GTX. honestly, for how sick all of that is it is really cheap. 60" lcd is about 3-5 grand. or a larger BLUE RAY quality screen w projector and 3d and far more capabilities for less.

To each their own, im just planting ideas for people that really want to try something immersive that they can afford. That being said, ive received a few msgs from you guys and if you have any other questions feel free to email. me or post it here for us all to see :)

cheers!
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:16 am

Yeap, playing in 3-D is awesome. Though the glasses get heavy after awhile :( So I can only do few hours at a time.

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Actually the ASUS 120 hz 3-D Enabled Display comes with the 3-D glasses kit. And is only about $500 total. But you do need a Nvidia Card first.. the 480 is about 400-500 still IIRC.

But both are money well spent. 480 is a great graphic card, and the LCD is awesome as well.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:23 pm

The new DS is going to have a 3D screen w/o glasses (Which seems interesting). So 3D tvs without glasses shouldn't be to far off down the road, especially with the hollywood craze of spamming 3D movies.

That's positional 3D. Meaning you have to be at a proper angle for it to work. Anyway if you look at the latest data, hollywood can push it all it wants but people really aren't going to see it. And they're not moving any 3D tv's either. Last I heard 3m units manufactured with 18k sales.

This round of 3D will die just like it did at the start of the 2000's, 90's, 80's, 70's, 60's and 50's. The only way it'll catch on is if you have it in front of you, without a flat surface projecting it directly into your face.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:34 am

If you can't afford a 3D system, check THIS out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mudweYKciog


I did the Anaglyph version on my system but it makes Fallout NV run at 1 FPS. So I tried Dirt 2 and it works pretty well, if you can get past the tinted glasses, which I can't. They drive me nuts. Still fun for the short time I tried it.

EDIT: I just tried that 3D driver thing and it didn't work for me. All it did was make my screen darker.


It runs a wizard by default which does that. Use Shift+* to close it. ( * = The one on the number pad.) Make sure you set it to use the hotkey. (Again, the * on the number pad, no shift.)
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:20 am

Hello there. I am quite a geek who thoroughly enjoys making my Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas Experiences as immersive as possible. I have had such a darned good time playing this game in 3d that I thought, "you know, I never really contribute ideas to the forums...usually I just ask for help...why don't I share how excited and fun this has been for me and maybe it will help one person enjoy the game as I have?" There are a few different 3d products out there, and I have been using Nvidia's 3d Vision combined with a huge 120 inch projection screen. Guys, let me tell you, Fallout 3 and F New Vegas are exceptional in 3d. WIth the click of a button I can swap from 3d to standard and the 3d truly makes it seem like you are peering down that street of rubble or that the nightskin you are fighting is right in your room.

it is very very fun and intense.

If any of you have the inclination to try 3D, let me tell you it was the best decision I have ever made in gaming and Fallout 3/ New Vegas are both exceptionally good and enjoyable.

All the best!!!!

Yeah...I have 3d too and it WOULD be awesome in this game if you didn't have to play on low settings till they patch the damn thing..which will be in 2012 if fallout 3 was any indication
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:56 am

Psh. 3D glasses are stupid.

If the Nintendo 3DS can do it, they can do it for cinemas, PC monitors and TVs.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:05 am

It runs a wizard by default which does that. Use Shift+* to close it. ( * = The one on the number pad.) Make sure you set it to use the hotkey. (Again, the * on the number pad, no shift.)

I know that. The image doesn't display in stereo at all, and adjusting the focus on it by doing shift+numpad+ does nothing.

It doesn't seem to work for me.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:32 pm

Nevermind. After some tweaking, I got it to work.

Now I just need some 3D glasses.

Oh. I can't use it with Oblivion though. It slows my game down to a crawl when nearing NPCs.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:27 am

Can we get a screen shot?


heh heh heh..
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