Why do people want to kill so much especially kids? : V - Skyrim

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:01 am

Think about that the next time you load a save after dying. I just love the realism argument. Guess gamers think there is only room in the universe for one immortal being and that is them. How do ~~people~~ realist ever get over the total break in immersion after dying and reloading a save.

I don't do Dead is Dead. That's why. Also, arguing an opinion with another opinion? Really?

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:59 am

What was better, the implied sixuality among the kids.
But that was ok apparently.

Ya... a colony of children under the age of 16 that exists for what? 150 years? creepy and wrong... why can I not use my Fat Man to purge their cave of abominations?!

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:33 pm

I dont mind that one is unable to kill kids, but man when half of the NPCs are unkillable it kind of restricts your choises in the game. I would not go randomly killing people myself but im sure some find amusemant in that

i just get a sadface when my character has a good reason to kill someone but cant, becouse he just wont die :S

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:49 pm

Because killing and six is just our basic animal nature.
Because we are surrounded by sixual and violent images from birth.
Because six gives life and death takes it.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:59 am

I think it's the only thing that is relevant. I've also laughed as I used Unrelenting Force to toss my wife around the room after she told me she didn't have any food to give me. Should my real wife save the trouble and just go to a battered wives shelter now? When GTA3 came out, tons of people never even bothered with the campaign, but just went on shooting sprees to see how long they could live. Haven't really noticed an uptick in car thefts and hoker deaths since then, have you?

Sorry, I think this psychobabble that there's a link between game violence and real violence, or that how a player acts in a virtual environment gives you a look into their soul, is pure rubbish. Myself and millions of others played Doom growing up - two kids who played shot up a school, and now we have to hear this crap every time there's violence in a video game, or someone talks about wishing they could do something violent in a video game. They're games. That's all.

Actually, there is a link, just not one that is widely advertised. The more violent the games and media a person consumes, the less likely they are to commit violent crimes, go figure eh?

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:19 am

Because It's a Video Game. And It's fun. There is nothing morally wrong with killing people in a video game, I have never bin compelled to harm anyone because of what I did in a video game. And if you are one of those people you should seek some help, because it's not the video games fault, it's because something is up that you need to resolve. But a game is a game, you constantly destroy random people you don't know in a FPS, kids to advlts. Not much difference other then you can get to know these NPCs. But still, you have to realize it is all fake.

Any problems that come in relation to video game murder and real life murder is because that person lost touch with reality and literally can't tell the difference. Same thing can happen with a book, TV, etc. That's why irresponsible people shouldn't be playing to many video games.

(I'm not saying you said anything about this, but this is usually the general argument about killing people in a game).

If it's just a boredom factor with you through, everyone has different interests. Some people Role play a murdering psychopath, some just want to kill as many things as possible for no reason and some don't want to kill random NPCs. I do a little of all. I just made a new character that is a hunter, So I'll be going around killing tons of Animals, and making my money off food, hide and Ivory

I'll accept the premise it realistic to kill advlts in a video game in the context of Skyrim. I see nothing realistic or immersive about killing a kid for entertainment. Could you please elaborate what is fun about killing a kid, video game or not. I agree with you the connection between video games and real life murder is totally baseless. However, should we as a society promote that killing kids is fun? Video game or not....I do not see the realism people are clamoring about when its not realistic for normal people to want to kill children.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:04 pm

It's only because this one reason:

They added kids in the game to be realistic, however, them being invincible is as un-realistic as not having them at all.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:52 am

Because if we could kill kids the game would probably get an AO rating and thus be unavailable in retail stores. And certain countries would ban the game completely. The option to kill children isn't worth the loss of tens of millions of dollars.

However because of that if children are present in the game they shouldn't be able to report crimes.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:09 pm

I don't do Dead is Dead. That's why. Also, don't arguing an opinion with another opinion? Really?

I edited that post.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:35 am

I'll accept the premise it realistic to kill advlts in a video game in the context of Skyrim. I see nothing realistic or immersive about killing a kid for entertainment. Could you please elaborate what is fun about killing a kid, video game or not. I agree with you the connection between video games and real life murder is totally baseless. However, should we as a society promote that killing kids is fun? Video game or not....I do not see the realism people are clamoring about when its not realistic for normal people to want to kill children.

So i'll ask again. You think that killing advlts is ok, immersive etc while killing kids is something atrocious?
Ummm why do i find this rather disturbing?

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:11 am

Because if we could kill kids the game would probably get an AO rating and thus be unavailable in retail stores. And certain countries would ban the game completely. The option to kill children isn't worth the loss of tens of millions of dollars.

Bioshock. Rated M. Can choose to kill or save little girls. Game "rewards" you accordingly.

Something, somewhere, allowed that game to get through.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:09 am

I just want them to shut the hell up. It's like they run to you as soon as you enter an area and hit with the same looped lines over and over. I had that fruit stand kid tell me about working for her mother damn near 10 times in just as many minutes..its annoying. Even my 16 year old daughter hates the kids when she watches me play.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:47 am

Everyone keeps repeating the same lines again and again and again. Deal with it.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:01 am

I mean...

How can one believe that? You're really suggesting that video game kids are more annoying than living ones? I mean you said "it would be nice" to kill one of them. Why? What would be "nice" about it?

In the game you can just run by them and ignore them. Their dialogue is more annoying than the guards, etc?

For people who say bad things happen to kids in real life...do you want the option to perform ALL the bad things that happen to kids? That's real too.

The issue isn't "it's just a game." It's what fantasies do the player have and what do they want to act out. The fact that it's a virtual world is irrelevant, IMO.

The issue isn't that there are loads of people who want to do disgusting things to kids (use your imagination), it's that kids are treated differently than advlts simply because, well... I don't really know why. They're kids, I guess? It's not that I can't do anything to an NPC that could happen to a real person in real life, it's that I can do something to the advlt NPCs, but not to the children NPCs. It's the double standard, not the complete and universal exclusion of some scenario or fantasy or other.

Thread lock time?

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:01 am

So i'll ask again. You think that killing advlts is ok, immersive etc while killing kids is something atrocious?
Ummm why do i find this rather disturbing?

How about you address the issues I had with your opinion first or at least answer my question. Defend your position, then I'll defend mine. Until then we can attack each others position and not get anywhere.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:52 am

Discussing killing kids isn't allowed on the forum. No matter where discussions like this start, it always, always, always ends up with one or more people going where they shouldn't go. So this is locked.