Is anyone else finding themselves getting so fed up with this game that they are quitting to go do other less stressful things? Companions who block your path and will NOT move. Running about for HOURS trying to sell everything? trying to sell things and clicking on the shopkeeper ONLY to find you have just stolen something???? Even worse than these, si the fact that i will not be a bad person/character IE Ware-wolf or Vampire.. so I am just out of luck on some of the quests.. I will not steal or have someone framed, more quests i will not do... when asked to do these things WHY do i not have the option of killing the person who wanted me to do them? Getting married? pfffff... completely worthless... way too fast with no involvement at all.... Missions? DEFINATELY not on the scale of Oblivion.... In oblivion i felt immersed, here, i feel .. cheated. WAY too fast. I watched my son do a few missions and become the leader (whatever hes called) of the Companions.. in less than two hours if I remember correctly... All i can do is shake my head in dismay... The game is JUST interesting enough I keep going back.. I can hope that patches will fix some of the issues, but no patch can fix the shallowness of the game i have played so far... I am near level 30... does it get better than what I have found so far???

When i play Oblivion, i have NEVER felt this way.. yes it had some issues.. but NOTHING as bad as this mess... thx for listening and replies!

You complain about having to make moral choices, isn't that what RPG's are about?

I don't have many hours in yet but from what I have seen by now it does seem that quest lines are not as long as I'd like them to be.

It is indeed!!! However, there are NO Choices!!! (options) You either become what you do not wish to be, or you do not play that part of the game. I am living with it, but usually when i pay this much for something, I would at least like to be capable of playing the game without becoming something I am not. In other games, there are usually "paths" that you can follow to become, either the good, or the bad. This one gives you no options.. either do the evil deeds or go play something else... So i am left with doing all the side quests and hunting dungeons I have not been to while being forced out of those main quest lines.
I am not condemning others or their choices, i am condemning Bethesda for not giving me the option.

Lol, no. This is what I use to relax.

i was mad that the thief's guild quest froze... so then i typed this in console setstage TG01 20 problems fixed..

What options would you have preferred instead?

Yeah their choices are very shallow I feel for you op. My personal gripe is how some places are quest locked.

for example


However the two other locations for the parts are NOT locked so it is easy to get into the quest only to find your warrior character has to break RP to get the other part. Also you cannot remove quests so you are STUCK with that un-finishable quest.

Although I am not getting quite as stressed as you.



Personally in relation to the OP with things like the thieves guild or dark brotherhood, I don't see why you can't do quests where you help the law catch the criminals and drive them out of their respective cities. You basically have to be a thief or ignore them, you cannot fight them whatsoever without just going on a dull murder spree.

Yes... this is pretty much exactly what I would have liked.. the option to go to war with the thieves guild/dark brotherhood.. we all know that completely eradicating them is more or less impossible, but being influential in taking them down to the point that they SEEM to disappear would have at least met my criteria of staying a good guy. Having the option of joining the companions WITHOUT becoming a werewolf and still having access to the quests would have also been good...
As it is, with the companions.. I did bite the bullet and join them.. then never voluntarily used the ability. As soon as I cured.... hmm, probably shouldn't say that.. as soon as I had the option cured myself of the lycanthropy (sp?) But, as usual was disappointed in the fact that I did just a very very few missions and now find myself in the position of leader (adviser) of the companions... After only a few missions I am the arch mage of the mages college... again.. very disappointed the only advantage of being either seems to be that you get quarters.. by this time you should own the house in whiterun so its not really an advantage at all.
Drug dealers abound selling skooma and other things.. some, you have the option of killing, some you do not. Watched my son get married.. and am also disappointed by that... I feel as if Bethesda did not even TRY to improve upon Oblivion, rather, they relied on Oblivion to sell this game... they were right, they got my money, because I liked Oblivion, and expected this to be better... It isnt better.. no, it is not really WORSE as far as game play, but it is worse in the amount of time put into the main quests.. Those quests seem almost incomplete.. as if they HAD a lot more meat to them, but that someone with a sharp knife removed the good parts... Still playing, but losing hope of this impression changing...