Talk to the Bartender.

this

i thought so too in my 1st play through and got really annoyed.

Thank you. And everyone down there will just let me go on past? Also, is there any way to

I too didn't like this. It sounds like the main quest forces you to "work" with a few of the different guilds.

Yeah, for instance, the

Working with the different guilds is one thing (it's done in Morrowind as well, the main quest makes you do some work for the Fighter's Guild and Mage's Guild, and the Thieves Guild is needed to get started on the main quest), but forcing you to join is another.

I got through the Thieves Guild without joining though. I did the job with the ring and framing the innocent person, but I did it to get the information I needed. I haven't done any work for the guild since.

Yea, this happened to me too. It took me a minute to realize I had been duped, and that I was not on the main quest. I still have unfinished business or whatever it's called in my journal.

I'm carrying 9 non-removable "unusual gems" around just because I don't want to join Thieves Guild... an option to drop them off would be nice at least.

Oh man... This annoyed the crap out of me. Why can't we just sell them off to the TG without joining? The way the NPCs speak to you when you talk to them about an unusual gem makes it seem like you stole it which is not the case 99% of the time.

Those Unusual Gems, though they're not shown as stealing, you actually are stealing them. On my first character I picked it up and he was good. On my second character I picked it up and got called a theif... So I must of got away with taking it. It's not shown as item to steal but to take.

Is that what the heck these things are? Lord. I found one of them lying around somewhere and picked it up. I'm supposed to take it to an appraiser, but I haven't been able to figure out who that is, nor have I bothered much to find out really. I've been carrying it around forever. You have to join the thieves guild to get rid of it? Great...

Not only that, but you have to find all 24 of them before you can get rid of them.

I also have tons of other useless quest items in my inventory like an amulet of talos and some journals from quests i finished, and the ruby dragon claw, and some other stuff.... its annoying

And the reward after finding all 24 of them is rather meh. It would be great at lower levels, but realistically, by the time you find all 24 of them you're at a level where it is pretty useless.

Be glad your game didn't bug out like mine...
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