"Rise Above Hate"
Its what the shirt says.

LOL. Immediately after stating he didn't want to start a flame war, the OP reduces the posts he objects to to "I wasted my moms money, wah!".

a-ha - thats the problem: interpretation.

See, beth promised (and delivered) a 300-hr game to their audience. But they never said you'd be playing 300 hrs straight without bugs. if 1/3 of that you spend redoing stuff due to Glitches & Co., well, they did not come short on their word...

I submit that it is this way with every RPG I've ever followed. For one thing these games are so complex that no matter WHAT they do a lot of people are going to say "yeah but you should have done this".

Go look at some of the other games and check out the threads around release time. People lost thier fricken minds bashing Fallout New Vegas "whaaaaaaa I miss my atmosphere, not enough exploring....WHERE'S MY LOOOOOOOOOOOOOT". Ugh.

I wasn't here for it but I'm told it was a b*tch fest when Oblivion came out. People were still whining about Mass Effect 2 being "dumbed down" two years after it came out, and Dragon Age 2 damn near caused a flippin revolt. There was a lot of hate and discontent on Fable 3 from what I saw but I didn't hang at that forum long as it didn't take me long to decide that I hated Fable.

From what I'm seeing, this game isn't getting near the hate the FONV and DA2 got.

Wait what? I cant even dignify this with a proper response....What I am "complaining about" is the over load and flood of complaints from people who don't like that their sword inst as shiny as they thought it would be or that there is some bug that affects there 10000 hours of play.

We get you found a bug, we under stand you made a post about it, do you have to be a troll and attack the world?

I dont want the complaints squashed, I enjoy reading about the bugs, hat I have an issue with is the amount of "Bethesda svcks because I spent 10,000 hours playing this, divorced my wife over it and theirs a spelling mistake - troll" even wow doesn't get this much hate

You mean because you have never played an Elder scrolls before and don't understand that creating a completely be what you want to be game without any bugs in three years is hard?

Well, with the current round of hate it comes down to two rather simple things:

1. Because a patch that is supposed to fix the game shouldn't make it worse.
2. Because we'd actually like it if Bethesda would bother communicating SOMETHING to us, their customers, about what they're doing to fix the problems.

As to the hate in general, most of us actually love Skyrim but the bugs keeps us from being able to enjoy it to the fullest and there isn't really anything most of us can do about it other than pester Bethesda to fix them.

Without Hate how could we improve the future?

Making a thread just to complain about those who complain is not at all productive - in fact it seems to me that it is doing exactly what the topic is about. We don't do these kind of topics, if others wish to complain about specific aspect of the game, fine, and as long as they are constructive and civil, fine.