_Tejon's Progress question : IV

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:39 pm

Okay i decided to use nGCD for once with my new character and i also just installed Progress. According to the readme file i need to wait a few seconds till i get a message at the top of the screen.

From the readme...

IMPORTANT
---------
When starting or loading a game with Progress active, wait a few seconds before
doing anything. Once you see "Progress Initialized" at the top of the screen,
your settings are in place and any real-time options are active. Any actions
taken before this message will cause no advancement, and viewing the character
sheet before initialization will show incorrect progress for your skills.

But i do not get that message, no matter how long i wait? At the moment i have no idea whether Progress is working or not, is there a way that i can check if it is working in game? My skills increase but i do not know whether this is just from nGCD, or if Progress has a hand in it. All Progress ini's are in C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\_tejon together with the ini's from nGCD. According to the conscribe.log nGCD works so i have no idea why Progress is not showing me that message.

Consribe.log

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Game Instance : 1 | Time : 07-18-2011 14-36-50
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Found shader enumeration = 1
Found shader enumeration = 5
Found shader enumeration = 6
Found shader enumeration = 4
Found shader enumeration = 3
Found shader enumeration = 2
nGCD Initialized
SM Combat Hide Initialised with ini
HSB:Inserting status bars into HUD
HSB:Default alpha 255
Debug statements toggled off for mod 2D
GetFontLoaded >> 15
GetFontLoaded >> 15
GetFontLoaded >> 15
HSB:Updated values from ini file
HSB:Need to track current enemy
HSB:Hide vanilla health bar!
** Dumping Array #689 **
Refs: 1 Owner 2D: HUD Status Bars.esp
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[ 2.000000 ] : (Array ID #710)
[ 3.000000 ] : (Array ID #726)
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[ 5.000000 ] : (Array ID #822)
[ 6.000000 ] : (Array ID #844)
[ 7.000000 ] : (Array ID #853)
[ 8.000000 ] : (Array ID #864)
[ 9.000000 ] : (Array ID #873)
[ 10.000000 ] : (Array ID #883)
[ 11.000000 ] : (Array ID #895)
PrintTileInfo tno_bars
Traits:
visible: 2.0000
locus: 1.0000
alpha: 0.0000
depth: 1.0000
y: 0.0000
x: 0.0000
red: 255.0000
green: 255.0000
blue: 255.0000
childcount: 12.0000
_zoom: 50.0000
_divider: 0.0000
_e_width: 94.5000
_e_height: 8.0000
_e_file: 0.0000
_f_width: 81.5000
_f_height: 5.5000
_f_x: 5.5000
_f_y: 1.0000
_edge_w: 6.0000
_edge_h: 7.0000
_edge_file: 0.0000
Children:
tno_sb
tno_sb
tno_sb
tno_sb
tno_sb
tno_sb
tno_sb
tno_sb
tno_sb
tno_sb
tno_sb
tno_sb
PrintTileInfo tno_bars\tno_sb
Traits:
visible: 1.0000
locus: 2.0000
alpha: 0.0000
y: 917.0000
x: 204.5000
height: 8.0000
width: 94.5000
red: 255.0000
green: 255.0000
blue: 255.0000
childcount: 3.0000
_zoom: 100.0000
_alpha: 255.0000
Children:
tno_sb_shd
tno_sb_txt
tno_sb_e
PrintTileInfo tno_bars\tno_sb\tno_sb_e
Traits:
visible: 2.0000
locus: 2.0000
alpha: 255.0000
depth: 1.0000
y: 13.0000
x: 0.0000
height: 8.0000
width: 94.5000
red: 255.0000
green: 255.0000
blue: 255.0000
childcount: 2.0000
zoom: 50.0000
filename: 0.0000
_zoom_factor: 1.0000
Children:
tno_sb_edge
tno_sb_f
PrintTileInfo tno_bars\tno_sb\tno_sb_e\tno_sb_f
Traits:
visible: 2.0000
alpha: 255.0000
depth: 1.0000
y: 1.0000
x: 5.5000
height: 5.5000
width: 81.5000
red: 255.0000
green: 255.0000
blue: 255.0000
zoom: 50.0000
filename: F
_value: 1.0000
Children:
HSB:Hud Status Bars initialization completed
Automagic Bags: Setting custom Bag names, icons, & models from .ini...
Automagic Bags: Done with .ini!
Automagic Bags: Options Menu De-Coblized!
EH:Updated values from ini file in data\ini\.
MMO:Updated values from 'Data\ini\Map Marker Overhaul.ini'
Time Manager initialized
All Natural Tamriel: Initialised
All Natural SI: Initialised

Did i do something wrong...or could it be a conflict?

My load order:

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Masters for: Streamsave_43.ess
00 Oblivion.esm
01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3]
02 Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm
03 VASE - core.esm
04 Progress.esm [Version 2.2]
05 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.6]
06 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
08 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.3]
09 SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.30]
0A All Natural.esp [Version 1.3]
0B All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3]
0C Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
0D All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3]
0E ChaseCameraMod.esp
0F FOV Modifier.esp
10 More Effective Enchantments.esp
11 More Effective Enchantments SI.esp
12 WAC - Crowded Roads Revisited.esp [Version 1.1]
13 DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp
14 Display Stats.esp [Version 1.3.1]
15 DS Time Manager.esp [Version 1.1]
16 Quest Log Manager.esp [Version 1.3.2]
17 Streamline 3.1.esp
18 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9]
19 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5]
1A Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 2.2]
++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
1B BaronArmor.esp
1C Gizmodian - Vicious Heart.esp
1D Pekka_Shields_Heavy.esp
++ VASE - Vanilla Cyrodiil.esp
++ VASE - Vanilla SI.esp
1E OWC - Mannequin.esp
1F OWC - Seaworld.esp
20 OWC - New Dimension.esp
21 WAC.esp
22 WAC - OverSpawn.esp
23 WAC - Dead Knights.esp
24 WAC - Player Summons.esp
25 WAC - TCOS.esp
26 WAC - TCOS Shops.esp [Version 03]
27 WAC - Magic.esp
28 Trade and Commerce.esp
29 Kragenir's Death Quest.esp [Version 2.11]
2A Lem - Celestial Lagoon.esp
2B Auto Repair.esp
2C Automagic Bags.esp
2D HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 4.2.1]
2E Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0]
2F Quest Award Leveling.esp
30 Quest Award Leveling SI.esp
31 Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.2.1]
32 SM Combat Hide.esp [Version 1.2]
33 Lem - Bounty Reduction Over Gametime.esp
34 Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp [Version 5.1.2]
35 Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp [Version 4]
36 Enemy Actors AutoHeal 1.3.esp
37 Phitt's Phighting Phixes.esp
38 Duke Patricks - Melee Combat NO RECOIL.esp [Version 2.6.5]
39 nGCD.esp
3A ProgressMBSP.esp [Version 2.0]
3B ProgressSBSP.esp [Version 1.0]
3C ProgressRBSP.esp [Version 1.0]
3D ProgressArmorer.esp [Version 1.0]
** Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp
** Cava Obscura - SI.esp
** Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp
3E Stat Restore.esp
3F SPAWN.esp [Version 0.3]
40 kuerteeDetectLifeEffectNightEyeShader.esp
41 GW71_Life_Detect.esp
++ LightSpellWhiteDimmer.esp
++ Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp
42 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:34 pm

It was removed in one of the later versions. You won't see that message. As long as you don't see an error and your other OBSE mods are working, it's probably working, ha-ha. You can quickly check by turning up the progress rate for something really high, if you're actually worried it's not working.

Happy gaming!
--Tomlong75210

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:51 am

But i do not get that message, no matter how long i wait?

I don't get a message either, but it works fine. One way to check that it is running is to load a save (made with Progress) and immediately open the inventory - all skills will be "messed up" as it hasn't initialized yet. Close the inventory, wait a couple of seconds and check again - then they should be recalculated by Progress.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:46 pm

It was removed in one of the later versions. You won't see that message. As long as you don't see an error and your other OBSE mods are working, it's probably working, ha-ha. You can quickly check by turning up the progress rate for something really high, if you're actually worried it's not working.

Happy gaming!
--Tomlong75210

I raised RestorationCast to 2.5 and then used the starting heal spell you get at the beginning and Restoration went from 0% to 85% with just one cast, while with the default 0.1 it only went up 25%. So now i am certain Progress is working. Thank you very much for tip.

I don't get a message either, but it works fine. One way to check that it is running is to load a save (made with Progress) and immediately open the inventory - all skills will be "messed up" as it hasn't initialized yet. Close the inventory, wait a couple of seconds and check again - then they should be recalculated by Progress.

LoL it appears that i am not fast enough to check it that way, but i did notice that the percentage bar to the next level was at 100% and after i waited for a while and then checked again it was back at 18%. So together with the method from Tomlong75210 it is double prove that Progress is working, thank you very much Akngt.