Help me sort out my mods and patches?

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:31 pm

EDITED: I've updated this post. I uninstalled Oblivion, again, and deleted all the mods. Now I've reinstalled Oblivion+SI+official plug-ins, so this is what I have installed so far in this order.

Shivering Isles
Update for SI (ShiveringIslesv1.2.0416English)
Knights of the Nine
Horse Armor Pack
Mehrunes Razor
Orrey
Spell Tomes
Thieve's Den
Vile Lair
Frostcrag (I guess this would be the wizard's tower)


I still plan on installing the ones below. Now does this change anything in which they should be installed?

Coloured Enemy Health Bar
DarkUId_DarN_16_OMOD
Elven_Map_Redux-3002
FastExit2
Official Oblivion Patch - latest one for just Oblivion, without the expansions which I do not have.
Unofficial Oblivion Patch - latest one
obmm_1_1_12_full_installation
OOO_133_Complete (OMOD version)
OOO_134_Beta_5_patch
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:19 am

When I'm installing OMM, should I check all three boxes under other tasks? Like it asks me if I wanna associate .BSA and .omod files with OMM, and create additional startup menu shortcuts for obmm's command line options and utilities.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:12 am

Am I suppose to install any of these in order? I don't wanna ruin my game again.

Here's what I have and what I plan on installing.

Coloured Enemy Health Bar
DarkUId_DarN_16_OMOD
Elven_Map_Redux-3002
FastExit2
Official Oblivion Patch - latest one for just Oblivion, without the expansions which I do not have.
Unofficial Oblivion Patch - latest one
obmm_1_1_12_full_installation
OOO_133_Complete (OMOD version)
OOO_134_Beta_5_patch

I know I need to get BOSS to load these in order, which I've never used before, and OBSE.

EDIT: And should I download the archive version of BOSS or the installer? Which one is recommended? Should I also download Wrye Bash? Same question as before as to which version should I download, if you guys do recommend me to download it.


Wrye Bash is more or less a must when using lots of mods - and its installer (BAIN) is more powerful than OBMM. It's not a must as in required if you're going to stick with that rather modest mod list, though, so up to you basically. Personally, I'd recommend taking the time to get acquainted with and use BAIN as the main installer - OBMM is easier to start out with, but BAIN isn't that hard to get up and running.

Anyway, I would:
1. Install Oblivion and patch it (if necessary with your version). Start a new game and check that it works.
2. Install DarN's UI - as the vanilla UI is so annoying. Check.
3. Install UOP. Check.
4. Install OOO 1.33. Run BOSS. Check.
5. Install OOO 1.34 Beta 5. Run BOSS. Check.
6. Install the rest one by one and run boss/check.

Make sure you're using BSA Redirection (either via OBMM or Wrye Bash).
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:30 am

I just got done creating the OOO omod, and when I hit activate, it says it conflicts with an already active mod. What other mod is there? The only other mod I have right now is the dark Uid.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:00 am

I just got done creating the OOO omod, and when I hit activate, it says it conflicts with an already active mod. What other mod is there? The only other mod I have right now is the dark Uid.

Ignore OBMM's conflict warnings, they're completely useless.

Also I'd suggest using Wrye Bash's BAIN to install mods instead, it's a much simpler and more powerful system. You'll end up having to use Wrye Bash anyway, so you might as well get an early start.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:22 pm

Ignore OBMM's conflict warnings, they're completely useless.

Also I'd suggest using Wrye Bash's BAIN to install mods instead, it's a much simpler and more powerful system. You'll end up having to use Wrye Bash anyway, so you might as well get an early start.


Okay, thanks. I'll use it if I can get this to run. And I just installed the Shivering Isles. It's not gonna conflict with anything is it?
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:49 pm

Also I'd suggest using Wrye Bash's BAIN to install mods instead, it's a much simpler and more powerful system. You'll end up having to use Wrye Bash anyway, so you might as well get an early start.

I agree. It is well worth the little time it takes. Also, considering there is this: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35230 to help newcomers, I cannot think of a good reason not to try BAIN.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:10 am

I'm still confused on how to use BOSS. Am I suppose to click BOSS after I'm done installing the mods? It brings me to a site with a list of things I don't know how to read.

And if I download Wyre Bash, will it conflict with OMM? Am I gonna have to uninstall OMM?
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:40 am

I'm still confused on how to use BOSS. Am I suppose to click BOSS after I'm done installing the mods? It brings me to a site with a list of things I don't know how to read.

And if I download Wyre Bash, will it conflict with OMM? Am I gonna have to uninstall OMM?

Did you read the readme? It sounds like you haven't.

BOSS is (if I say so myself) one of the simplest utilities there is to use. You just run the program, then read the log and do what it says. Then again, if you "don't know how to read", you're in trouble.

EDIT: For your second, no and no. Again, something that could be taken from reading readmes and guides.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:53 am

Okay, thanks. I'll use it if I can get this to run. And I just installed the Shivering Isles. It's not gonna conflict with anything is it?

If you've just now installed Shivering Isles, then you'll pretty much need to start from square one. It requires a different Official Patch - the 1.2.0416 specific to SI.

Then you'll want to install in the following order;

- http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5296
- http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10739
- http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710
- Any UI mod you want to use - for DarN don't forget to update the ini with fonts.

Stop here. Run your game, make sure you can create a character and reach the outdoor area. Then you can continue installing the other mods.

Wrye Bash and OBMM do not conflict. And yes, just click BOSS, let that page come up and you're done. Your load order is sorted.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:54 pm

Oh dear... I'm wondering if I should just turn SI off rather than just reinstall.

And I have question about Wrye Bash. I've come across yet another cross road. I'm trying to install it, but I don't know what to pick. They're asking me to check which games or locations to install it to. They have Oblivion, Python, and Standalone executable. Should I check all of them?

So now what? When I reach outside, do I have to reinstall the OOO mod as well? And what happens if I were to install Knights of the Nine as well?
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:23 am

When you reach outside and everything looks fine, try traveling to several places like the IC or one of the other cities, just to be sure it's all good. Then yes, you can activate OOO.
If you want to install KoTN after, then you should install the Unofficial Mods Patch then re-install the UOPSupplemental as it includes more changes for the DLC's.

What version of Wrye Bash did you download and try to install?
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:32 am

When you reach outside and everything looks fine, try traveling to several places like the IC or one of the other cities, just to be sure it's all good. Then yes, you can activate OOO.
If you want to install KoTN after, then you should install the Unofficial Mods Patch then re-install the UOPSupplemental as it includes more changes for the DLC's.

What version of Wrye Bash did you download and try to install?


Do I still need to check if i just uninstalled Oblivion and deleted everything inside the folder including the mods, which I did? I'm just gonna install Oblivion+SI+Knights of the Nine first, then I'm gonna install the mods.

And I used the 293 installer version.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:28 am

If you've uninstalled and are re-installing, go back to my first post instructions. So you'll also need this http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9969 to be installed BEFORE the UOP Supplemental patch.

Did you install python 4 first? Then check Oblivion and Python. If using the Standalone version, check Standalone.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:13 am

I've updated my original post. Do I need to install the official patch for just Oblivion still since I already used the updated 1.2.0416 for SI? It doesn't give me the options to choose the quality of the performance at the launch (very low, low, medium, high). And I always choose very low to make ti run smooth.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:39 am

No, you're fine with that SI patch. Looks good, keep going. :)

You can always go into Options and change your settings.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:25 am

No, you're fine with that SI patch. Looks good, keep going. :)

You can always go into Options and change your settings.


I don't see the options for changing the texture quality. I see the options where it lets me chooses how far I can see things, but none for texture, and it was convenient for me. So the official SI patch overrides the Oblivion patch which renders it useless. I'll miss the option to change the performance quality at launch... I also installed a bunch of official plug ins after installed Oblivion and SI which I added in my first post if you didn't see me. Just in case if it made a difference.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:19 am

It shouldn't change the launcher. You don't by chance have the GOTY edition, do you?
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:39 am

It shouldn't change the launcher. You don't by chance have the GOTY edition, do you?


Yep, I have the GOTY Deluxe edition. And that option to change the quality from low to high was never there until I installed the official patch for Oblivion.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:30 pm

The texture bar is at the top, it will have a size list. Large, medium, or small. At this point the life of game PC's you probably want to select Large.

Just my two cents? Rather that that map, get http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35969 Everything he makes is excellent, but with this he's made pretty much every other map mod obsolete. You'll be very impressed. Also, this map mod has none of the complicated crap that goes along with making the elven map show mods.

If you have GOTY Edition "Deluxe", it's already got everything "official". You are left to only install the unofficial patches. Makes life much easier.

TO BE SPECIFIC - you do NOT need to patch the Game Of The Year Edition. And if it's the DELUXE version on Steam you have all the official DLC content. If it's not the DELUXE, you do not have all the official DLC content, and that will effect what patches you use when you install the Unofficial Official Mods Patch (the official mods referred to here are the downloadable content - the DLC - for the game). If you look on Steam it will list exactly what content is included with the Deluxe, and what is include with the normal Game Of The Year Edition.

1. Unofficial_Oblivion_Patch_v3_2_0_Installer_Version-5296
2. Unofficial Shivering Isles Patchv1_4_0 v10739.exe
3. Unofficial_Official_Mods_Patch_v15_Installer_Version-9969
4. Unofficial_Patch_Supplementals

Number three is a PAIN. It will not install correctly if you use the installer. Just install the last two manually and you'll have a better day.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:09 pm

The texture bar is at the top, it will have a size list. Large, medium, or small. At this point the life of game PC's you probably want to select Large.

Just my two cents? Rather that that map, get http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35969 Everything he makes is excellent, but with this he's made pretty much every other map mod obsolete. You'll be very impressed. Also, this map mod has none of the complicated crap that goes along with making the elven map show mods.


My texture option is already at large. I always assumed it just changed the font size for some reason, but it still doesn't lower the graphics no where near as much as when I set it to very low via launch or even just low.

And yeah, I'll try that map instead of the other one. It's not gonna decrease the performance is it?
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:25 pm

I don't know that a map is going to do much to slow your game down. It's the best one I've ever used, and I had just jumped through major hoops to get the Elven one to work.

If you are having alot of issues with Graphics and slow performance, I can recommend Streamline 3.1 without hesitation. It's not really a beginner's mod, but if you find the thread they will help you. It does wonders to make your game work when it's struggling. It has a lot of tweaks you can do if you wish, but I've installed it as is and I have no complaints.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:36 am

I'm trying to use the darkUid omod version in wyrve bash. How do I go about this? Where do I save it in? It doesn't come up in bash.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:38 pm

How do I install the unofficial patch supplemental? I have an archive version of it, and I extracted it, now what? Do I place the extracted folder somewhere?
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:56 am

OMOD use OBMM, not wrye bash. Oblivion Mod Manager. Check it out, that's how you add DarkUI to the game with an OMOD.

Look in the folders. All you do is copy what's in the folders to the Data folder in your game's directory. You will be asked if you want to overwrite, and you should say yes. That's it!
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