Recommended? essential mods : IV

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:02 am

Ok, so I am very active in morrowind modding, but I have played oblivion before and have done about 99% of the quests, but I never played it modded before, so I put the question to you guys, what are the best/ essential mods. I intent to start a new game, and I already have the unofficial oblivion patch. About quest mods, I use only quest mods that are lore compatible, and preferably have voice acting.

Thank you in advance

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:38 am

Good voice acting is thin on the ground. I am also not sure why it is needed, especially when coming from Morrowind. Still, I am sure it will be taken into account for others' suggestions.

Overall, you might need to be more specific, in order to receive useful advice. And if you can be specific enough, then the best place to be asking is the Mod Detectives thread.

Failing that, you will either get other people's preferences typed at you, or nothing at all. I am not sure which would be worse...

What do you like about Oblivion? What don't you like about Oblivion? What is it that you think it lacks? What could (and maybe should) go?

And so on.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:16 am

Voice acting is not necessary, it's just that if everything else in oblivion is voice acted, then the mod will contrast starkly with the rest of the game, but I guess that is ok, it doesn't matter all that much, as I already played Oblivion. As for the mods in general, I really don't have anything in mind as to what kind of mod which is why I left it vague, as long as it improves the game, it should be fine, I dont mind if people post their preferences, as they wouldn't recommend a mod if they dont use it, or havent used it.

I appreciate your help.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:51 am

Voice acting is not necessary, it's just that if everything else in oblivion is voice acted, then the mod will contrast starkly with the rest of the game, but I guess that is ok, it doesn't matter all that much, as I already played Oblivion. As for the mods in general, I really don't have anything in mind as to what kind of mod which is why I left it vague, as long as it improves the game, it should be fine, I dont mind if people post their preferences, as they wouldn't recommend a mod if they dont use it, or havent used it.

But the people's preferences are so completely different, that taking time to help you is pretty much a vaste of time when I have no idea of what kind of mods you would like.

You can look at the link in my sig for my mods, where several of them are considered essential by many players, but completely uninteresting by others...

Since you're used to Morrovind, it shouldn't be too difficult to give us an idea of what kind of mods you prefer.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:29 am

Ok, I guess Im lookiong for good quest mods, and maybe some tweaks to the game mechanics to make it more fun, I heard that there was a mod that made bows much more deadly per shot, but slower to reload, and bethesda took that idea and applied it in skyrim. Something that fixes the levelling issue, It would be cool to have more detail in cities, or have npc's actually have jobs instead of walking around. Is there an evil house mod, like vile layer, but better? What is the best dungeon mod, is there a mod that disables essential npc's, etc.
That kind of stuff.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:13 am

Although I am now going against my own best instincts, and about to engage in some "bad form" too, here is a post I made in (evidently!) a rather different frame of mind. If it is at all useful to you, then I am glad. I suppose, if nothing else, it might help you be aware of mods you do not want!

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1211132-new-to-the-game-what-mods-do-you-find-necessary-for-oblivion/page__p__18130121#entry18130121

Other than that, and in fact, one of the other posts in the same thread, there is also "Oblivion the Beautiful" here: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1213147-oblivion-the-beautiful/

And there is the Oblivion Quest List: http://knol.google.com/k/toql-the-oblivion-quest-list (though this one is rather out of date, so beware).

For immersion, there was a recent thread, that for some reason I did not reply to (!) - it is here: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1218287-must-have-immersion-mods/

This site is just all around excellent, for Oblivion mod users: http://tescosi.com/wiki/Main_Page

Of course, TES Nexus ( http://www.tesnexus.com/ ) has a lot of mods available, and is very much searchable, like so: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/advancedsearch.php - you can also browse categories and sort the results to suit, here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/categories.php

Best of luck filtering away the garbage, and those mods that simply might not appeal (and/or work properly with your other mods). You will need it!

edit: Of course, now I have posted that, you have already posted specific questions. Ha! You would be better off posting those in the Mod Detectives thread, incidentally. But either way, I will see what I can come up with...

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:48 pm

You might want to have a look at my personal recommended mod list [you will need Wrye Bash + OBSE for some of these].

Spoiler

GUI

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22170 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/10763-2-1205949211.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13012 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/13012-1190306117.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=26051 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/26051-1-1254620473.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15914 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/15914-1-1205351793.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35969 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/35969-1-1296085599.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17439 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/17439-2-1212201219.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=26389 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/26389-3-1252279713.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23080 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/23080-1-1236801157.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=12859

SOUND

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13987

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=38466

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=39804

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9829

TEXTURES

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18430 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/18430-1-1309286832.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=38350 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/38204-1-1303796729.jpg

http://www.fileplanet.com/184103/180000/fileinfo/Elder-Scrolls-IV:-Oblivion---Qarl%5C%27s-Texture-Pack-III-Redimized-v1.0 - http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/fms/images/oblivionmods/3813/1200650170_fullres.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11261

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=38350 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/38350-1-1304798743.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28378 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/28378-1-1259641761.png

All of the texture packs above should be installed in the following order:

Unofficial_Oblivion_Patch_v3_2_0_Manual_Version-5296.7z
Bomrets_Detailed_Normal_Maps_for_Vanilla_Version_1_1-18430.7z
Really_Textured_Normal_Maps_Part_1_BAIN-38350-1-1.7z
Really_Textured_Normal_Maps_Part_2_BAIN-38350-1-1.7z
QTP3Redimized.zip
QTP3_UOP32_Patch_2dot3-11261.7z
Really_Textured_Normal_Maps_SI_BAIN-38350-0-991.7z
Bomrets Texture Pack Shivering Isles.rar
Unofficial_SI_Patch_v1_4_0_Manual_install_7Z_version-10739.7z
Unofficial_Official_Mods_Patch_v15_Manual_Version-9969.7z
Unofficial_Patch_Supplementals-27710-3-3-7.7z

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15245 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/15245-1-1256152691.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37536 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/37536-5-1299939660.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9208 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/9208-1-1195046402.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9080 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/9080-1-1193762848.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8500 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/8500-1-1250364844.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11891 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/11891-2-1221546554.JPG

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10487 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/10487-2-1249408635.JPG

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http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36075 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/36075-2-1292601423.jpg

http://tesalliance.org/forums/index.php?/files/file/797-insanitys-improved-armoury-compilation/ - http://tesalliance.org/forums/index.php?app=downloads&module=display§ion=screenshot&full=1&id=797&record=18470

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29638 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/29638-1-1264834915.jpg

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http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=38251 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/38251-1-1304138091.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35951 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/35951-1-1291624273.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35560 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/35560-1-1290138731.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7487 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/7487-1-1262136284.jpg

SHADING

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30054 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/30054-2-1310765647.jpg - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/30054-5-1310765648.jpg - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/30054-4-1310765648.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37825 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/37825-1-1308960264.jpg - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNd8RZiLS7w

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25218 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/25218-1-1245344081.jpg

CREATURES AND NPCs

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=26634 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/26634-2-1301080413.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37529 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/37529-3-1299880031.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35913 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/35913-1-1291432847.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=39674 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/39674-1-1312051434.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36111 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/36111-4-1292709882.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=39784 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/39784-1-1312395971.jpeg

[all of the above is a nice and light replacer for Martigen's Monster Mod, if you're not going to use it]

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28176 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/28176-1-1258048077.JPG

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29427 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/29427-1-1263971612.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16843 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/16843-1-1209394614.jpg

GAMEPLAY

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37382 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/37382-1-1303354393.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35333 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/35333-2-1299464251.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25078 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/25078-1-1253095317.jpg

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=3953 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65abKSTD0_s

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5977 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/5977-1-1248249785.jpg

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=5771 - http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/fms/images/oblivionmods/5771/1263705778_fullres.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2280 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/2280-1-1220304673.jpg

COMPANION

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28977 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/28977-1-1310344208.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8256 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/8256-1-1246304670.jpg

LANDSCAPE AND ARCHITECTURE

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25023 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/25023-1-1264509650.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19370 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/19370-2-1219513621.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5022 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/5022-1190809095.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16815 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/16815-1-1243530769.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33003 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/33003-1-1279069945.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37903 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/37903-1-1302129783.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22965 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/22965-3-1238278651.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23384 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/23384-2-1274690464.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35908 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/35908-3-1291405667.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21562 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/21562-1-1296468417.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30000 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/30000-2-1266323251.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37655 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/37655-1-1300518446.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33462 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/33462-2-1280620198.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=26643 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/26643-1-1259743335.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32737 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/32737-1-1280818155.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22846 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/22846-2-1235792728.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17158 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/17158-5-1278336863.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32710 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/32710-5-1278024915.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25876 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/25876-5-1279089070.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28702 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/28702-1-1260719466.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37842 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/37842-1-1301764775.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22751 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/22751-2-1235920453.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22828 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/22828-2-1278102740.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25804 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/25804-1-1291851403.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20218 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/20218-2-1223446593.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25839 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/25839-1-1247703734.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34367 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/34367-4-1297879948.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15999 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/15999-1-1205676941.gif

DISTANT LOD

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20053 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/20053-1-1234944023.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2182t - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/2182-1-1255265832.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2210 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/2210-1-1255264878.jpg

WEATHER AND ENVIRONMENT

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18305 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/18305-1-1253116222.jpg - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/18305-1-1286703702.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34199 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/34199-1-1306352247.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23783 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/23783-1-1239646742.gif

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2536 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/2536-1-1216825339.jpg
Use this for Natural Habitat only.

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2037 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/2037-1-1194215848.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19628 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/19628-1-1222054620.jpg

QUEST

http://www.lostspires.com/pages/downloads.htm - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND0Osea-vc4
[fully voiced]

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33089 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/33089-4-1279456264.jpg

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27302 - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/27302-1-1275331315.jpg
[silent]

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3027
[silent]

ANIMATIONS

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20459 - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/20459-1-1224418703.jpg

All of the above is known to be working with little or no conflicts at all, provided you install a few compatibility patches for UL, OCR, OOO and such.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:38 am

You've got some generic answers, to give you some specifics:

Ok, I guess Im lookiong for good quest mods, and maybe some tweaks to the game mechanics to make it more fun, I heard that there was a mod that made bows much more deadly per shot, but slower to reload, and bethesda took that idea and applied it in skyrim.

That would be http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1171864-duke-patricks-combat-archery-mod/, also check out his http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1215917-duke-patricks-melee-combat-no-recoil/. As for quest mods, others give better answers than me. When it comes to game tweaks (other than the combat), it depends on what you mean by making it more fun. I would consider my Togglable Quantity Prompt, Map Marker Overhaul and Enhanced Hotkeys (the last two made by me) to be essential game tweaks, but not exactly fun.

Something that fixes the levelling issue, It would be cool to have more detail in cities, or have npc's actually have jobs instead of walking around.

Not sure about jobs, but OOO is the generally best overhaul (that fix the leveling issue), and Better Cities makes the cities much more detailed.

The remaining isn't mods I know too much about...

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:32 am

Specific advice: Just skimmed the topic, not much time for me this morning. lore correct and voice acting now that I think about it are usually mutually ahh crap I forgot the word... "selective?" Most mods with voiceacting I find don't really follow lore all that well, while the ones that don't have voice acting seem to have an easier time of following lore... Maybe it's because when you have voice acting you don't expect someone to say "Oblivion take you!", but rather "Go to hell!"

Anyway, Integration: The stranded light is very long and very lore correct. In some ways more than even the actual game is.

GENERIC PART THAT EVERYONE GETS:

If you want the most help possible it helps to give as much information, and uniqueness as possible.

Here's my generic written thing for these topics. if you want something specific give more details. I ask some questions in the below text as a small guide line. You can answer them if you wish:

Spoiler

Lists and resources for finding many popular mods, and some good mods:
(note the distinction between the two, don't just follow mindless peer pressure, try and make your own opinions and find what you'll like)

List of lists:
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?showtopic=1010109
Top 100
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/top/alltime.php
Files of the months:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/filesofthemonth.php
Hall of fame:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=oblivionmods.HOF
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/categories.php, http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/tags/search.php, http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/advancedsearch.php

General help in terms of installing, utilities, workshops, etc.:

http://tescosi.com/wiki/Main_Page/
http://www.oblivionmodwiki.com/index.php/Main_Page
http://tesalliance.org/forums/ (Check The Enclave forum, the Oblivion forum, or the Voice actor forum depending on your pursuits)
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/forum/87-iv-oblivion/ (Hardware/software for non mod related issues, Mods for mod users, Construction set for making mods.)

List of topics exactly like ~~yours~~ generic pleadings for "Any mods?" that have already been answered:
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1072579-the-any-mods-list-of-topics/
Read the AZERessential topics to get the basic "get wryebash, OBMM, OBSE, start slow" basic advice for starters recommendations

If you want any further help I suggest you tell us about yourself; what you like and what you're looking for... Here's some questions to get you started:

Have you played Oblivion already?
What sort of things interest you?
What type of Character do you usually play? (good/evil, theif/mage, roleplayer/random-no-story-hack-and-slasher?)
Are there specific types of mods you think would interest you? (Quests, graphic mods, gameplay mods, overhauls, etc.)
When did you leave?
What did you not like about Oblivion? What did Oblivion not have or need more of?
Male or female character?

For the occasional "What are your must haves?"

Mostly quest mods: http://kno.li/i

My favorite quests are:
http://theelderscrolls.info/?go=dlfile&fileid=349 (my most favorite)
http://www.tesnexus.com/modules/members/index.php?id=125368
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21989
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17448
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6977
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6855
Ihttp://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19591

[b]Gameplay mods:

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25462
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25835
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22894
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25844
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25844
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=26196
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18442
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3409
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21862(good for troubleshooting)
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20736
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20807
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20371 (Needed for Integration)
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22124 (Needed for Integration)

I'm mostly a quest mod player and I recently posted a big rundown for most of them that I've playedhttp://thenexusforums.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=157600&view=findpost&p=1349075 and http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=924363&topic=51137901.

(Some of these are probably outdated by now)
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=15598757
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1147875-which-magic-mod/page__view__findpost__p__16778426
http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=1073167&view=findpost&p=15602927 (Don't really want a lot top 10's or simple lists but I'm desperate for cop/pastes at the moment)
http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=1075680&view=findpost&p=15650213

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:44 am

Ok thanks for all your input, Ill look over them.