I think consoles should get the command console as an option : V - Skyrim

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:54 am

Just have a message that pops up with the console saying BGS takes no responsibility for any harm done by abusing the console. If they ignore it and screw up their console, then perhaps they deserved it.

Its not like there's anything important on the console, like tax records.

It doesn't really matter if they put those warnings. Look at the Wii and how many people sued Nintendo because they broke their TVs and other items because of the controller.

MS and Sony will never allow it for that reason. Period.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:57 am

Nothing against it but as someone already said there would surely be plenty of idiots who would [censored] up their games or consoles with console and claim its bethesda's fault.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:43 am

PC users that build their own gaming computer or buy an expensive name-brand one often don'y realize how many of us can't afford to spend $900+ on a computer for a game.

I can't believe people think it is cheaper to buy a console. You spend that much money on it and it's basically a money pit. It is only useful if your willing to pay for content (or play the same games over and over). It's like a Kindle. The last game I played on my 360 was street fighter 4 because I got disgusted over M$ trying to charge me 2 bucks for a 17kb jpg file of Guile that is readily available for free on Google images. lol I know it's only a couple of bucks but its pathetic how they nickle and dime you for every last drop of content you want.

A PC it's still a PC. If I don't feel like spending money for a new game or new DLC I still have reasons to turn it on. I have mods. If I'm bored I can play thousands and thousands of hours of free content from mods. How much does it cost for thousands of hours worth of new fresh content for the consoles? Do you still think a console is cheap?

Besides I NEED a PC. I don't NEED games. I would have a PC even if I never played games on it because they are basically a necessity these days. So why not play games on it also? Video game consoles (no matter how cheap the initial investment compared to a PC is) are rip offs compared to a gaming PC.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:23 am

It's not that I don't want people to vote no. It's that PC users come here, click no, and then they leave without offering a reason or opinion that doesn't amount to "Console users are inferior and don't deserve it."

I play Skyrim on PC, and I clicked yes — mostly because I'm tired of console players whining when exploits are fixed. For example, Bethesda has stated they'll be looking at crafting balance on their blog, and on another forum I visit there's no end of raging about Bethesda potentially "taking away part of a product we paid for." Kind of silly if you ask me.

If console players want access to the developer console, I have no problem with them getting it. This is a one-player game, it doesn't affect me in any way. 'Course, some PC players probably vote "no" out of spite because of the annoying consolized UI. And it's never going to happen for you guys, unfortunately.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:57 am

Lol I think your a wii bit jealous. It isn't PC players fault that your console is less powerful than most phones these days, It isn't PC players fault that consoles are extremely restrictive. It isn't PC players fault that you don't get the freedom PC players get. It is Sony and M$ that is in control of their consoles. Notice I said THEIR consoles. None of that has anything to do with PC players. I know that is PC elitism because it is all fact. When people present reality you have just refused to acknowledge it.

As Puredragon222 said:
Microsoft and Sony wouldn't like it because it can break your game. Whereas on PC, they're all "Eh, you broke it, your fault."

That is reality. Now quick! Point and shout PC elitism at it and maybe it will go away. Do this, Look on youtube for the video of 5000 cheese wheels + a dragon. If you had console commands exactly like the PC has you could do that also and if you did that on a 360 it would overheat and die. The person who done that video even said it was about to melt his PC lol.

I have no problem with consoles getting console commands but I accept the reality that the overlords that made the consoles wouldn't allow it to the extent that it is allowed on the PC (Look at two worlds console commands and compare them with what is possible with Skyrim). The consoles would need a special version of console commands that limit people's abilities. That special console friendly version of the console commands would take time to make. Time that could be much much better spent else where. See what I did there? More reality. I must be an elitist.

Also whats with your attitude towards PC players? Starting with the questions in the poll and then going on with every reply you have made. You are just another console user with the ingrained opinion that anyone that doesn't play with a console is an elitist.

Best post ever, I'm siggin' some of it.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:48 pm

No thank you. I didn't read your crap, and I won't listen to your off-topic ranting about how console gamers are jealous of the power of PC's for gaming. This is about unlocking the command console for the Xbox 360 and the PS3.

A. you read his post. B. You shout "PC elitist" whenever someone posts any argument.

So in order to have a thread about this you need to actually read (and counter argument them instead of just claiming you didn't read 'em) every post that goes against your cause).
BTW: At least you ain't forced to use steam.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:52 pm

"I can't believe people think it is cheaper to buy a console. You spend that much money on it and it's basically a money pit. It is only useful if your willing to pay for content (or play the same games over and over)."

Yes, because content on the PC is free. Of course, you have to be willing to pirate it all, which I suppose is another thing a PC can do that a console can't.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:42 am

"I can't believe people think it is cheaper to buy a console. You spend that much money on it and it's basically a money pit. It is only useful if your willing to pay for content (or play the same games over and over)."

Yes, because content on the PC is free. Of course, you have to be willing to pirate it all, which I suppose is another thing a PC can do that a console can't.

Hes not talking about pirating. Hes talking about prolonging games with mods and such. If it werent for mods I woudlnt have played Oblivion with more than one or two characters. Now I've played it through with quite a few more.

One more thing is that PC games are cheaper. If you save 10-20 on every game you buy it will make up for the initial cost of a PC and more during the life span of a console generation. You also need a PC anyhow so why not just get a gaming PC instead of a bad PC and a console. Its complete [censored] that PCs are more expensive.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:21 pm

"I can't believe people think it is cheaper to buy a console. You spend that much money on it and it's basically a money pit. It is only useful if your willing to pay for content (or play the same games over and over)."

Yes, because content on the PC is free. Of course, you have to be willing to pirate it all, which I suppose is another thing a PC can do that a console can't.

Wow so much wrong in this comment that it is sad for me to even acknowledge it. I should just scream Console Pluralism at it lol What is the opposite of elitism?

But since I'm bored I will humor you. First you do know that Skyrim has been pirated more times on the consoles than it has on PC right? If not check the local torrent sites. It has been. You do know that people were pirating Skyrim for 360 a week before the game even came out right? Also I'm sure you know PCs are useful for more than just video games right? Read what you quoted from me. Read my whole post. Never once did I refer to piracy as being free content. What I meant was PC has a LOT of completely legal and free content. Such as MODS. And you do understand what mods are right? Consoles wont even give you a free jpg file.

Lol. wow

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:44 am

Best post ever, I'm siggin' some of it.

Agreed. Couldn't have said it better myself.

There's a lot of denial with the console community and any truth/reality is shot down with the infamous "PC Elitism" reply.

Sad when people are brought out of their little box they call reality.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:02 am

I voted no just to be a [censored]. :disguise:

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:46 pm

Best post ever, I'm siggin' some of it.

Hey thanks! The new sig is great lol

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:33 am

Last I checked, this thread wasn't about whether or not it's "better" to have a PC or a console.

So... maybe we might want to stay on topic?

I think that'd be best, as we don't allow the silly PC vs Console topics here.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:29 am

I dont really care so I didnt vote, but one problem with doing so would probably be that the game was made to use a maximum of the capabilities of the consoles hardware.
So if people saw that there is a console and tryed to use it it would probably be easy to break it in some way. They would also need to get it approved by MS and maybe Sony.
Another one would be that you cant really fix an Xbox or PS yourself if something goes wrong. You cannot just erase the operating system, boot from another harddrive or with the OS CD/DVD, or delete/change files since it isnt even possible to view them on your display, leave alone open and edit or replace them.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:36 am

That's enough. If I have to delete more posts after already warning to keep on topic and lay off the "which is better" crap, you guys leave me with two choices:

Either close the thread because it's getting too much trouble to babysit.

Continue to leave the thread open and start handing out warnings and suspensions for disregarding moderator advice.