Game CTD in exteriors

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:43 am

Edited. Title not related to current issues.

I've edited the first post with my new load order that I'm having trouble with.

I have a fully working FCOM setup and I backed that up and then I added most of the larger mods. I also have that backed up.

Now I installed the quests and quite a few texture replacers and a couple other mods and the game is crashing now. The last time I got a test to work my HUD mod didn't work correctly so I deactivated it on obmm then reinstalled it and now the game doesn't seem to work. I don't know if that is the issue or not but I'd appreciate any more insight if there are any obvious issues.


?  00 Oblivion.esm ?  01 TR_OoT_Main.esm [Version 17] ?  02 Hammerfell.esm ?  03 You Are Here.esm ?  04 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3.1] ?  05 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0] ?  06 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0] ?  07 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] ?  08 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] ?  09 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] ?  0A FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3] ?  0B Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35] ?  0C Artifacts.esm ?  0D Kvatch Rebuilt.esm ?  0E Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.0.7] ?  0F CM Partners.esm ?  10 HorseCombatMaster.esm ?  11 Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53] ?  12 Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53] ?  13 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] ?  14 DLCShiveringIsles.esp ?  15 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] ?  16 SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.30] ?  17 Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0] ?  18 Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [Version 5.0] ?  ? ? Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [Version 5.0] ?  ++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?  ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?  19 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?  1A Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp ?  1B Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp ?  1C All Natural.esp [Version 1.3.1] ?  1D All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3.1] ?  ++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3] ?  1E Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp ?  1F All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3.1] ?  20 WindowLightingSystem.esp ?  21 AmbientDungeons.esp [Version 1.3] ?  ++ Brighter_Torches.esp ?  22 DaggerfallBooks.esp ?  23 SwampGrass.esp ?  ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] ?  24 P-Froggys Wall Climbing EV.esp ?  25 Reznod_Mannequin.esp ?  26 Living Economy.esp ?  27 Living Economy - Items.esp ?  28 Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.42] ?  29 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1] ?  2A Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.2] ?  2B Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5] ?  2C DLCHorseArmor.esp ?  2D DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?  2E SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11] ?  2F DLCOrrery.esp ?  30 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] ?  31 SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11] ?  32 DLCVileLair.esp ?  33 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?  ++ SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.21] ?  ? ? Lair_mobs.esp ?  34 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp ?  35 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?  ? ? Mehrunes_mobs.esp ?  36 SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.30] ?  37 DLCSpellTomes.esp ?  ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ?  38 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp ?  ++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp ?  39 CapesandCloaks.esp ?  ++ FineWeapons.esp ?  3A Tegeals Extra Robes.esp ?  3B 300_Brocade_Outfits.esp ?  3C Armamentium female.esp ?  3D DLCThievesDen.esp ?  3E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?  3F DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?  40 SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.30] ?  ? ? Thievesden_mobs.esp ?  ++ MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp [Version Beta] ?  41 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] ?  42 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ?  ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] ?  43 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp ?  44 Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp ?  45 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?  46 Oblivion WarCry.esp [Version 1.09] ?  47 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09] ?  48 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5] ?  49 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] ?  ++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33] ?  ? ? Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp ?  4A OMOBS.esp [Version 2.0] ?  4B OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0] ?  4C OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.0] ?  ++ ArmamentariumLL.esp [Version 1.35] ?  ++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35] ?  4D ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35] ?  ++ ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp [Version 1.35] ?  4E OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72] ?  ++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?  4F Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ?  50 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] ?  ++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2] ?  51 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]?  52 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ?  ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ?  ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ?  53 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ?  54 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ?  55 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ?  56 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f] ?  ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ?  ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ?  ++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?  ++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?  ++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?  ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ?  ++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01] ?  ++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35] ?  57 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] ?  ++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69] ?  58 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp ?  59 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp ?  5A Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp [Version 1.0] ?  5B Artifacts.esp ?  5C ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp ?  ++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0] ?  5D (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp ?  5E Kvatch Rebuilt.esp ?  5F Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp ?  60 Trail South East.esp ?  61 Trail WEST.esp ?  62 Trail EAST.esp ?  63 Trail Central.esp ?  64 TR_Stirk.esp ?  65 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp ?  66 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp ?  67 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp ?  68 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?  69 SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp [Version 1.30] ?  ? ? Battlehorn_mobs.esp ?  6A DLCFrostcrag.esp ?  6B DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?  6C SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp [Version 1.2] ?  6D Knights.esp ?  6E Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] ?  ? ? EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp ?  ++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06] ?  ? ? DLC_MOBS.esp ?  6F TOTF.esp ?  70 RTT.esp ?  71 The Lost Spires.esp ?  72 Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp ?  ++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] ?  73 ElsweyrAnequina.esp ?  74 road+bridges.esp [Version 4.6.3] ?  75 HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.5] ?  76 HammerfellBorders.esp ?  77 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?  78 LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp ?  79 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] ?  7A xulTheHeath.esp ?  7B SutchReborn-TheHeath patch.esp ?  7C XulEntiusGorge.esp ?  7D xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] ?  7E LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp ?  7F Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp ?  80 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] ?  81 Hammerfell-ColovianHighlands patch.esp [Version 1.0] ?  82 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] ?  83 mythsandlegends.esp ?  84 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] ?  85 SutchReborn-LostCoast patch.esp ?  86 Hammerfell+UL Lost Coast Patch.esp [Version 1.0] ?  87 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.3] ?  88 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1] ?  89 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3] ?  8A xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] ?  8B xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] ?  8C xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] ?  8D xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] ?  8E HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp ?  8F xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.3] ?  90 xulPantherRiver.esp ?  91 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] ?  92 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Versio 1.1] ?  93 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.7]?  94 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] ?  95 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] ?  96 TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp ?  97 KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp ?  98 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] ?  99 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1] ?  9A xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2] ?  9B OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp ?  9C xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12] ?  9D OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp [Version 1.1] ?  9E MMMDungeons-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp [Version 1.0] ?  9F xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.1] ?  A0 Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp [Version 1.0] ?  A1 NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp [Version 5.0.2] ?  A2 TrailsOfCyrodiil-UL merged patch.esp ?  A3 bartholm.esp ?  A4 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08] ?  A5 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp ?  A6 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ?  ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] ?  ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] ?  A7 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] ?  A8 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3] ?  A9 Oblivifall - Let's Talk!.esp [Version 1.1] ?  AA Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp ?  AB RealHungerv1.4.esp ?  AC RealisticFatigue.esp ?  AD RealSleep.esp ?  AE RealSleepExtended.esp [Version 2.5] ?  AF SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b] ?  B0 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90] ?  ++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90] ?  ++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.90] ?  ++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.90] ?  ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90] ?  B1 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90] ?  ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90] ?  ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90] ?  B2 Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp ?  B3 Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp ?  B4 DRSplatter.esp ?  ++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76] ?  ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76] ?  B5 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] ?  ++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp ?  B6 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV] ?  ++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV] ?  ++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV] ?  ++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV] ?  B7 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV] ?  ++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV] ?  B8 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV] ?  ++ bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp [Version 1.5] ?  ++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52] ?  B9 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.0.7] ?  BA Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0] ?  BB Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.0.0] ?  BC Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 4.9.8] ?  BD Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1] ?  BE Better Clocks for Better Cities 2_0.esp ?  ++ Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?  ++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68] ?  BF bgMagicLightningbolt.esp ?  C0 FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?  C1 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp ?  ++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.90] ?  ? ? NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp ?  ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] ?  C2 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]   ? ? All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.3] ?  C3 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

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Jessie
 
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:59 am

I know this sounds odd, but try playing WITHOUT your Bashed Patch. Sometimes they cause more crashes and remove objects from the game world.
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Alex Blacke
 
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:10 am

I know this sounds odd, but try playing WITHOUT your Bashed Patch. Sometimes they cause more crashes and remove objects from the game world.


Very odd, because with that load list his mods simply wont work properly without the bashed patch.
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Jodie Bardgett
 
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:17 pm

Does your game work when you disable ALL of your new additions (Hammerfell, Elsweyr, Dynamic map)? I know this sounds odd, but...

So far I can′t see any reason for your crashes, but recognized a few other things:

1.) Portable campsite: Unless there′s a new version that I don′t know, you′re supposted to only use one of the .esps, either standard or "~ - quickstart"; besides, there are little issues with that mod (quite certainly no crashes, though, used it for month a few years back).

2.) Your RealSword list looks very long - I recall the original versions (pre--FCOM) contained quite a few .esps, but THAT many? Might be the same issue as with Portable campsite - I′d check whether you really need all of them...

3.) Definitely the same problem with Bob′s armory: only one of the esp′s!

--> I′m not so sure now about your Armamentarium-mods, but that looks a little odd to me as well; I′d need to check it myself now, tough. But to cut it short: Seems like you didn′t read the readmes very properly (same old....), and those three/four points already point to enough things to give you problems, anyway. So, do what needs to be done first a.k.a. RTFM :wave:
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Daramis McGee
 
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:58 am

Actually my list there I realized was my whole list of mods >.> While those are all of my active ones I do not have multiple Bob's, Arma, or the protable campsite esp's active =/.

I did a bit more troubleshooting and couldn't really find the issue. Right now I'm building another install with FCOM and I've moved the original install file out of the way. If I get the Fcom one working along with some of the mods from this old list I'll just stick with that.

Yes and I already accidently played without the patch on and it would crash very quickly because some of the mods are reliant on what is in the patch.

Thanks anyways.
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Ashley Hill
 
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:45 am

I've edited the first post with my new load order that I'm having trouble with.

I have a fully working FCOM setup and I backed that up and then I added most of the larger mods. I also have that backed up.

Now I installed the quests and quite a few texture replacers and a couple other mods and the game is crashing now. The last time I got a test to work my HUD mod didn't work correctly so I deactivated it on obmm then reinstalled it and now the game doesn't seem to work. I don't know if that is the issue or not but I'd appreciate any more insight if there are any obvious issues.
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