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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:05 pm

i was in a particularly difficult necromancer dungeon the other day and i had 3 coming at me. whatever nothing an ice form shout can't handle. well i missed one, froze another and one put up a ward to stop it! this is the most frustrating thing. i feel that wards should not stop shouts. it has no magic power or damage so how can a ward designed to stop magic stop my shout? it happens all the time when i go to use unrelenting force as well. doesn't' matter i summoned my dremora lord. :obliviongate:
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:07 am

i was in a particularly difficult necromancer dungeon the other day and i had 3 coming at me. whatever nothing an ice form shout can't handle. well i missed one, froze another and one put up a ward to stop it! this is the most frustrating thing. i feel that wards should not stop shouts. it has no magic power or damage so how can a ward designed to stop magic stop my shout? it happens all the time when i go to use unrelenting force as well. doesn't' matter i summoned my dremora lord. :obliviongate:

they don't seem to affect poisoned arrows either. :)
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:35 am

i was in a particularly difficult necromancer dungeon the other day and i had 3 coming at me. whatever nothing an ice form shout can't handle. well i missed one, froze another and one put up a ward to stop it! this is the most frustrating thing. i feel that wards should not stop shouts. it has no magic power or damage so how can a ward designed to stop magic stop my shout? it happens all the time when i go to use unrelenting force as well. doesn't' matter i summoned my dremora lord. :obliviongate:



Just saying that shouts are an acient magic ..very powerful but still magic and its logical.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:54 am

Wards stop magic
Shouts = magic
Wards stop shouts
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:14 pm

Enemies can block shouts. I think Wards should be capable the same.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:35 am

Damn, can they do that? Gotta rethink my strategies...
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:22 pm

yeah i get that they're an ancient magic but the way i see it is that a shout os a thu'um, a different magic that wards were not designed to stop, there fore they should still go through the ward.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:37 pm

i was in a particularly difficult necromancer dungeon the other day and i had 3 coming at me. whatever nothing an ice form shout can't handle. well i missed one, froze another and one put up a ward to stop it! this is the most frustrating thing. i feel that wards should not stop shouts. it has no magic power or damage so how can a ward designed to stop magic stop my shout? it happens all the time when i go to use unrelenting force as well. doesn't' matter i summoned my dremora lord. :obliviongate:

Shouts ARE magic, so the Ward should block the Shout..
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:34 am

yeah i get that they're an ancient magic but the way i see it is that a shout os a thu'um, a different magic that wards were not designed to stop, there fore they should still go through the ward.


Still, Thu'um draw power from Aetherius like all magic does. It is only another way to project it.
But i'm annoyed that wards protect depending on damage. Ice Form damages almost nothing, but will allow you to get hits on whatever you're freezing. And Unrelenting Force just pushes them, almost not dealing damage at all.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:04 am

yeah i get that they're an ancient magic but the way i see it is that a shout os a thu'um, a different magic that wards were not designed to stop, there fore they should still go through the ward.

if you want to get knee deep into lore you'd find that though many things have changed in the tes world when it comes to magic but it is our , thier ( hardcoe rpging playing with my mind on terms ) understanding of magic that has changed and not magic itself =)
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:46 am

yeah i get that they're an ancient magic but the way i see it is that a shout os a thu'um, a different magic that wards were not designed to stop, there fore they should still go through the ward.

It's the same thing to say that you can use a Ward to block the Shouts that the Draugr do on you, and also the Dragons, such as Yol (Fire Breath) ... it would make the game ALOT easier.

EDIT: You know right ? That when the Dragons breathe Fire or Ice on you, their are doing a Shout. So by your logic, you could use a ward to block the Dragon's shout and it'll make the game really easy and boring.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:12 am

Still, Thu'um draw power from Aetherius like all magic does. It is only another way to project it.
But i'm annoyed that wards protect depending on damage. Ice Form damages almost nothing, but will allow you to get hits on whatever you're freezing. And Unrelenting Force just pushes them, almost not dealing damage at all.

didn't know the whole aetherius deal, but like you said the ice form shout is almost completely an effect rather than damage, it svcks that it doesn't take effect, same with unrelenting force.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:16 am

It's the same thing to say that you can use a Ward to block the Shouts that the Draugr do on you, and also the Dragons, such as Yol (Fire Breath) ... it would make the game ALOT easier.

EDIT: You know right ? That when the Dragons breathe Fire or Ice on you, their are doing a Shout. So by your logic, you could use a ward to block the Dragon's shout and it'll make the game really easy and boring.


Actually , thoguh I'm not sure completely , but a frost dragon breaths frost without shouting as I've seen dragon do shouts and then have to wait to do another one during witch they breath their natural element ... Just my observations though
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:10 am

EDIT: You know right ? That when the Dragons breathe Fire or Ice on you, their are doing a Shout. So by your logic, you could use a ward to block the Dragon's shout and it'll make the game really easy and boring.

It won't make the game easy and boring. There are some rather significant limitations on wards.
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