Okay, the Guild quests are very well done, particularly the last one (The one in which you give back the key).

BUT, once you become the Guild master, it′s the same as Oblivion, guild members act as if you were a newcomer. You can′t even tell some member to follow you!

I expected something else... I had hoped for this fixed.

I'm the thieves' guild master, but have yet to become a full member of the thieves guild..

As always we have to wait for mods to fix the game. But it's not a problem for me, first time that I play an elderscrolls game directly after release.

The Ck is not even out yet.

Well you've still got quests. Have you "restored the Thieves Guild to its former glory" yet?

Yay! Those wonderful, repetitive, soulless, grinding quests with no impact or consequences!

What about the famous "Radiant AI"? What about having options?

Do other guilds have options to betray them and so on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEd1D-KD5xc lol

Serious answer: Not much. They probably just ran out of time to add more quests to the game.



Funny answer: Sleep on a pile of gold and jewels in the guildhall untill another thief stabs you in the back and takes over?

From what I've read, yes.

They actually count for something. But don't do any for Riften. It seems you need to do 5 for a city, then you'd get a special quest.

Obviously the game doesn't tell you this at all...

gold generators, but, as a jeweler, I have no need to re-grind thru them at all.
Full on nightingale, and thieves' guild master, still yet to be declared a full member of the guild lol. all I can hope is that 19/24 of those stupid un-stack-able stones for the crown is what is holding me up.

You're actually not the Guildmaster officially yet, unofficially sure, but Brynjolf is still the official guild leader until you do the repetitive quests enough (5 in each city) and do the 4 "Restore" quests. Once you do these, they'll actually have a promotion ceremony. And for the most part, most of the thieves will start recognizing you as guild master. Maven will even congratulate you. Once. Then she'll ignore you as usual. I really wish you could kill her as part of the Dark Brotherhood quest.

Only gripe I have at that point is that Dirge still gives me lip about not caring that I'm friends with the guild master...Get a brain Dirge I AM the mf'in guild master.

I made a save and killed Dirge just because I had finally had enough. None of the other theives even cared. I then reloaded the save.

Odd because I have the GM chest and am able to loot it now and again. unless your post was directed at the OP. from what I can tell, I'm missing the map (for the treasures on shelves at desk, which I have but Delvin won't take) I've been thru the coronation as well..

I have done the gold generator quests countless times until they started repeating themselves..it was then that I considered them to be a waste.

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