I’m not happy about that to me It's Classic 19th Century Literary Vampires > Ancient folkloric vampires > everything else.

Anne Rice? At least her vampires don't sparkle. They just get skin like marble.

See I'm the opposite. I think folkloric vampires are much more interesting than Western vampires. But I can see how folkloric vampires would not make a good PC in a game like Skyrim.

No! Dracula (Bram Stoker 1897) Carmilla
(Joseph Thomas Sheridan Le Fanu 1872) Varney the Vampire; or, the Feast of Blood (James Malcolm Rymer 1845–47) and The Vampyre (John William Polidori 1819) basically anything pre 1898
No! Dracula (Bram Stoker 1897) Carmilla
(Joseph Thomas Sheridan Le Fanu 1872) Varney the Vampire; or, the Feast of Blood (James Malcolm Rymer 1845–47) and The Vampyre (John William Polidori 1819) basically anything pre 1898

I see. While not my first choices, these options for vampires are much better, IMO, than what we have in Skyrim.

I take it Rice would be your preference? I'd have to heartily disagree they're too 20th century for me. The fact that everybody latches on to them and the Hollywood vamps like they are the definitive article that's always been there is frustrating to no end. You see Stoker is sort of what got me in to vampires in the first place and that’s when I started looking at all the old material of the 19th century and realizing how much better and cooler those vamps were.

I didn't think I was being hostile :/
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I'll let you have werewolves, but what about 'amazeing' or 'haveing' - that's pretty school boy if you ask me mate
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Your point seems fairly redundant after 4 pages pass lol. How have I ruined an eight page thread on the second page?

It would be awesome to get like a kill screen type thing for feeding on awake people.




I'm wondering if it is a retcon. I can't find any reason at all the disease should have changed otherwise.

Vampirism isn't a curse on Elder Scroll, but a disease, simple as that a disease will not make someone burn to the ashes, they just have some skin problem and that's all. Please don't assume Skyrim to be a twilight crap history.

Consider that we're in a High Fantasy setting however. The lines between curse and disease may well be fudged. Especially considering the condition originated from the action of Molag Bal.

It's a fine line between both. Curse(Or gift) and disease. It's a divine power bestowed upon mortals. "A disease will not make someone burn to ashes". Then howcome when when you slay a vampire, they turn to dust? Sure, ingame has vampire dust and occasinally, ash piles(Like ashes of Hindaril in Oblivion.) But in lore, you also read that upon death, they turn to dust. Like Greywyn wrote how horrified he was when he saw his friends get stabbed with silver and turning to dust upon shrieking. Not to mention they must feed every now and then to fit in.

Not just with vampires; Bethesda [censored] up lore of almost everything only to make game more appealing to dumb masses.
I advise Bethesda that they make a MMO and let it solve their money problems, so they can focus on making TES games for mature people with some brains in their heads instead.

What all lore did they [censored] up? I don't see the vampires as that messed up, and I've read all the in-game books about it, etc.

Oh yes, this totally goes against every lore definition of Skyrim vampires we had.

I mean, we totally cannot break trough ice, that's bullcrap!

the only vampires with the ability to blend in with human society are the order (cyrodillic vampires, who, as the name suggests, are not in skyrim accoring to all knowledge), and the skyrim vampires are said to be beastial, paranoid, cruel, ice-dwelling monsters (a book from oblivion told about them being paranoid and living under ice [which they can reach through and grab their next meal] and all vampires are beasial and cruel [all but The Order]), that is pretty [censored] up lore if i do say so myself. they did not even get The Order right (which should not even exist in skyrim) according to the lore (these vampires are nobles, lord, and kings, not random bandits in the skyrim country side)

You're strawmanning. It doesn't break the Volkihar lore (much) because there is so little of it. What it breaks is the Cyrodiilic clan's lore.

And what does the Cyrodillyc clan has to do with everything?

I'm honestly not sure whether or not you're trolling me. Go back and read some of my earlier posts.

This thread is starting to make no sense, lol. The OP was about vampires in daylight and now we're talking about everything in general and I'm confused as to what's right and what's not right. I can read the in-games all I want and still come here and see entirely different things.

I've seen this guy various times and I've come to the conclusion that this is true.