Hi everybody,
I'm new here but I have his question I need to share (among other but that's the most urgent).

Of course it is about this beloved Lorkhan, and his influence on the Dwemer.
I assume I'm not the only one for who it is obvious that Lorkhan is the true father of Dwemer technology if I dare to put it in such heavy words.

To sum this quickly we all know how many citadels the Dwemer built on the Red Mountain and how this Red Mountain was filled with the energy of the heart of Lorkhan (hence the red color, even before the Blight). The Dwemer as well swamped in this energy and it would be quite a heavy coincidence that they tried to give the heart a body on their own. This may sound like a bias however.
If we take it in this order, the Dwemer learned the arts of Reason and Logic and developped their sciences. When Kagrenac found the heart of Lorkhan he wished to use it to ascend the Numidium into a god of science and technology. Of course this would be extremely profitable to Lorkhan, having a whole race worshiping him only and not a single of the Aedra and Daedra. That's sly trick. And Lorkhan is a trickster.

But then we have the ruins of Skyrim that are obviously older than the ones in Morrowind. It is hard to say if the soul gems found in the centurions were used to give a basic mind to the centurion or not but the technology of centurion intelligence seems to depend more on magic than the ones in Morrowind. I tend to think the centurions found in Morrowind were programmed and more practical than the ones in Skyrim that feature this artistic value in the craftmanship.
However... there comes Black Reach. The place is obviously filled with a strong magical essence. I find it a little puzzling that everyhing is so blue-ish but the crimson nirnroots that are red. I tend to associate the color red with Lorkhan but that's not enough to consider something a proof of the influence of Lorkhan just because it's red. But nirnroot is a special plant, the roots catch the energy of Nirn. Seeing the eminence of Black Reach for the relations between the Dwemer citadels, I tend to think this place is a bit like the Red Mountain of Vvardenfell.
On the other hand Black Reach isn't so easily reached and it would have required the Dwemer to dig first to find it and then maybe fall under some influence. This is still a possibility since Dwemer were always amazing masons, they may have dug on their own and found Black Reach and then started developping technology.

I really tend to think Lorkhan played a major role in the rise of technology within Dwemer culture. The art of tonal architecture is striking, the power of the sound created by the Dwemer tonal tools such as the tools of Kagrenac are simply amazing...


Also I must say that I haven't finished the MQ nor Hermaeus Mora's quest that I have just begun. I don't have much time to play sadly. I hope this topic interests someone... =]

I also have a side question that I hope does not require its own thread. It's about Bagarn and Fyr. The only news I can consider from them is Septimus Signus' saying there are no more living Dwemer. He means "on Tamriel", right? I mean, Fyr is like the most powerful wizard of Morrowind, I can't believe he couldn't be able to flee to Oblivion during the Red Yead. In Morrowind already there were large pieces of infected flesh near Bagarn, who knows if Fyr didn't clone him? And well, with such knowledge of Daedra and corprus/Lorkhan wouldn't he be able to open a gate to an outer realm of Lorkhan and go search for the Dwemer? (Yes, it's a lot of speculation, I call it hope and I like to picture the two of them walking cooly on a Daedric plane)

The Dwemer had no Gods but their 'Gods of Reason and Logic, so they did not revere Lorkhan in the way you imply, they simply used his Heart to try and achieve an apotheosis of sorts; and, Lorkhan is, I believe, considered Aedra as he gave up part of himself in the building of Mundus - hence why his Heart could not be destroyed, as his Heart was the heart of the world.

Concerning your point on the Crimson Nirnroot though, Sinderion states that his research into them led him to believe that the difference in colouration to their terranean counterparts was a result of a change in their metabolism - brought about by the lack of exposure to sunlight.

You say that Lorkhan may have played a major role in the advancement of Dwemeri technology, however I do not think this is suggested anywhere, although his Heart was the driving force behind the advancements in Tonal Architecture.

Oh, and regarding the disappearance of the Dwemer: Vehk himself says that he cannot sense the Swemer on any physical planes.

I anticipate one of the true lore buffs coming along any time soon to ninja me :toughninja:

And by the way, if this is your first post, you might want to http://images.uesp.net/c/c4/Fishystick.jpg

Two things:

For every source that calls Lorkhan a trickster, there's another source that says he just gave the Aedra the idea to build Nirn, and they did so free of deceit.

Lorkhan didn't design Nirn, Magnus did, fleeing shortly before it was finished.

Well, Shor came with the idea and got the ball rolling, while Magnus drew up the specs on how to do it and what it should look like.