Bosmer easting other Bosmer/Human races

Post » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:53 pm

So I was reading about the different races on http://www.uesp.net/ and I found something a bit disturbing in this article: http://www.uesp.net/...orrowind:Bosmer
"They have never been truly allied with other nations. Mistrust has been engendered by the ritual cannibalism that they practice in accord with their Green Pact."
Can someone verify this via ingame books or NPCs? I will never look at a woodelf the same.

I found these particular sections most intriguing. I'm surprised the Altmeri and Bosmeri don't hate the Dunmer for their ancestral rituals.

Foreign Views of Dunmeri Ancestor Worship and Spirit Magic

The Altmeri and Bosmeri cultures also venerate their ancestors, but only by respecting the orderly and blissful passage of these spirits from this world to the next. That is, Wood Elves and High Elves believe it is cruel and unnatural to encourage the spirits of the dead to linger in our world. Even more grotesque and repugnant is the display of the bodily remains of ancestors in ghost fences and ash pits. The presentation of fingerbones in a family shrine, for example, is sacrilegious to the Bosmer (who eat their dead) and barbaric to the Altmer (who inter their dead).

The human cultures of Tamriel are ignorant and fearful of Dark Elves and their culture, considering them to be inhuman and evil, like Orcs and Argonians, but more sophisticated. The human populations of Tamriel associate Dunmeri ancestor worship and spirit magic with necromancy; in fact, this association of the Dark Elves with necromancy is at least partly responsible for the dark reputation of Dunmer throughout Tamriel. This is generally an ignorant misconception, for necromancy outside the acceptable clan rituals is a most abhorrent abomination in the eyes of the Dunmer.

The Dark Elves would never think of practicing sorcerous necromancy upon any Dark Elf or upon the remains of any Elf. However, Dark Elves consider the human and orcish races to be little more than animals. There is no injunction against necromancy upon such remains, or on the remains of any animal, bird, or insect.

Imperial Policy officially recognizes the practices of Dunmeri ancestor veneration and spirit magic as a religion, and protects their freedom to pursue such practices so long as they do not threaten the security of the Empire. Privately, most Imperial officials and traders believe Dark Elf ancestor worship and displays of remains are barbaric or even necromantic.

Telvanni "Necromancy"

The Telvanni are adept masters of necromancy. They do not, however, practice necromancy upon the remains of Dark Elves. Sane Telvanni regard such practices with loathing and righteous anger. They do practice necromancy upon the remains of animals and upon the remains of Humans, Orcs, and Argonians -- who are technically no more than animals in Morrowind.
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Post » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:07 pm

I don't believe it is mentioned anywhere in Morrowind, but cannibalism is part of the Lore surrounding their religion in Valenwood.
Note that it's a religious thing mostly dealing with eating their fallen enemies, they don't just do it for a quick meal.

I believe the source of this Lore is from the Pocket Guide to the Empire.
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Post » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:00 pm

There's a reference in http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ancestors_and_the_Dunmer book:

The presentation of fingerbones in a family shrine, for example, is sacrilegious to the Bosmer (who eat their dead) and barbaric to the Altmer (who inter their dead).

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Post » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:29 am

That's very interesting. I suppose because of this, they catch many diseases from the creatures they hunt and possibly enemies they encounter. Looking at their stats, they have a 75% resistance to disease, probably because they are accustomed to them. In Morrowind, when I "dispose of corpse", would that be considered eating my foe?
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Post » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:51 pm

I guess it would.

I also remember the A Dance in Fire series of books mentioning it. The books describe the adventures of the imperial clerk Decumus Scotti in Valenwood. The book is fiction, but presumably it's based on real culture.
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Post » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:48 pm

when I "dispose of corpse", would that be considered eating my foe?

No. Unless you want to roleplay that idea.

Otherwise, it's just a handy way to erase the body and all it's reference, so the game doesn't have to remember it.
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Post » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:17 pm

I wish someone would have eaten that stupid bosmer that begs in front of the temple in Mournhold.
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Post » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:57 am

I wish someone would have eaten that stupid bosmer that begs in front of the temple in Mournhold.


I'm afraid he ate me a few hours ago. :blink: I couldn't hit him a single time. Not to mention I really want his armor when he challenges you.
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Post » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:46 am

Aw great. Now I can't look at Fargoth the same anymore. He eats his dead enemies? Maybe this is why I don't like him or trust him. :sick:
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Post » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:44 pm

It appears that the Green Pact requires Bosmer to eat what they kill. I suppose that "killing to eat" is considered natural and "acceptable" to their religion, but killing for other reasons (hunting for sport, furs, or other valuable parts) isn't.

NEVER tell a Bosmer "bite me". It's more dangerous than telling a former Hockey player "Check, please".
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Post » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:10 am

Aw great. Now I can't look at Fargoth the same anymore. He eats his dead enemies? Maybe this is why I don't like him or trust him. :sick:


I think that's kind of awesome. When he says "Those guards better watch out!" he ain't kidding. :liplick:
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Post » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:42 am

Interesting, I hadn't known this. Now I have a legitimate reason to dislike the Bosmer. I always knew they were weird.

I wish someone would have eaten that stupid bosmer that begs in front of the temple in Mournhold.

They can eat him when I'm done with him.
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