Can't load any save : IV

» Thu May 03, 2012 2:13 am

So, like it says. The load bar slowly crawls over to the right, almost fills, then the memory usage balloons until it grows above the 3.8 gig max (with LAA) and crashes. I originally thought this was because my save was pretty big (21 megs), but I tried with an old, just-starting-out save that's only 4 megs and the exact same thing happened, so it's not likely to be a problem in the save game specifically.

Starting a new game does work, and does work if I save and reload, but no previous save on any of my characters will load, even those only a couple hours into the game.

The last mod I installed before this happened was the updated Unique Landscapes pack, but I was already using the previous UL pack and uninstalling it or reverting to the previous one doesn't fix the problem, so I'm not sure what to do now.

Is it possible for mods to be memory leaks and cause something like this, or is there another possibility I'm missing?

Thanks in advance for your help.

» Thu May 03, 2012 12:08 pm

Posting your load order will probably help.

Also, are you using Wrye Bash? If not, how are you installing your mods?

» Thu May 03, 2012 1:35 am

Note: I realized after I posted this that after I updated UL, I rebuilt in CBash despite making all my previous Bashed Patches in Python, so I'll try rebuilding in Python and see if that makes a difference.

...nope, same problem..

Posting your load order will probably help.

Also, are you using Wrye Bash? If not, how are you installing your mods?

Active Mod Files:

Spoiler

00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3.2]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.1.6]0A  Fundament.esm  [Version ision]0B  CustomSpellIcons.esm++  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp++  TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp0C  FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.1]0E  UOPS Additional Changes.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]11  USIPS Additional Changes.esp12  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]13  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]16  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]17  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp18  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  LoadingScreens.esp++  LoadingScreensSI.esp1A  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1B  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.33]1C  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3.2]++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]1D  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]1E  Realistic Water.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp1F  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]20  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp21  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3.2]22  WindowLightingSystem.esp23  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp24  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp25  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp26  ChaseCameraMod.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]27  Paladin.esp28  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp29  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.9]2A  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]2B  Reznod_Mannequin.esp2C  Willful Resistance.esp2D  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]2E  Crowded Cities 15.esp2F  Get Wet v0.92.esp30  Immersive Combat Music.esp  [Version 1.00]31  kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp32  kuerteeCleanUp.esp33  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp34  Lock Bash Omega.esp  [Version 1.5]35  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]36  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1]37  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.2]38  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]39  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3]3A  DLCHorseArmor.esp3B  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]3C  DLCOrrery.esp3D  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3E  DLCVileLair.esp3F  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]40  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp41  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]42  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]43  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  Book Jackets DLC.esp++  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp44  Dread Knight Armor.esp45  HTBShopInABottle.esp46  Morrowind Robes and Dresses for HGEC.esp47  Athletics While Riding.esp48  DLCThievesDen.esp49  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]4A  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp  [Version Beta]4B  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]4C  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]4D  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp4E  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4F  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]50  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]51  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]**  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp++  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]52  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]53  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderhardcoe.esp  [Version 0.9.9]54  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]55  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]56  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]57  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]58  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]59  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]5A  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]5B  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5C  Mage Equipment - OOO.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp++  DiverseDremoraFemales.esp  [Version amped]++  DiverseDremoraArmorFCOM.esp  [Version 0.95]5D  Plate Armor Plus - OOO_FCOM_version.esp5E  300_Artifacts.esp5F  BladeOfTheHaunted.esp  [Version 3.0]60  Gift of Kynareth.esp61  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp  [Version 2.11]62  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp63  LetThePeopleDrink-fountainonly-Cobl.esp  [Version 2.5]64  KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp65  Quest-Related Dungeons Marked.esp66  StopDarkBrotherhood.esp67  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]68  TheForgottenShields.esp69  NRB4+ForgottonShields Patch.esp6A  Tona's_ModsStore.esp6B  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp6C  VOILA.esp6D  VOILA - Soldiers of Empire.esp6E  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 3.0.4]6F  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp70  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]71  DLCFrostcrag.esp72  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]73  DLCFrostcragReborn.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  DLCFrostcrag_MysticEmporiumPatch.esp74  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp75  Knights.esp76  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]++  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp77  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]78  Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp  [Version 1.0]**  DLC_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]79  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.32.COBL]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_SlofsHorses.esp7A  ReclaimSancreTor.esp  [Version 1.0.4]7B  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.6.2]7C  NRB4+Vineyard Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]7D  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0.8]7E  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.13]7F  Molapi.esp  [Version 1.0.1]80  Reedstand.esp  [Version 1.0.4]81  Vergayun.esp  [Version 2.0.2]82  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]83  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]84  xulTheHeath.esp85  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]86  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]87  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]88  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]89  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]8A  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.4]8B  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.2]8C  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]8D  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]8E  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]8F  RST+Cloudtop Mountains.esp  [Version 1.1]90  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]91  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]92  AFK_Weye Arrius_Creek Patch.esp93  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]94  xulPantherRiver.esp95  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]96  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]97  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]98  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]99  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]9A  GiftOfKynareth-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp9B  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]9C  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]9D  RST+Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 1.1]9E  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]9F  Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]A0  FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.espA1  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]A2  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]A3  OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.2]A4  RST+Cliffs of Anvil.esp  [Version 1.1]A5  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.3]A6  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.1]A7  OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1.0]A8  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.0]A9  NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 5.0.2]AA  KragenirsDeathQuest-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp  [Version 2.0]AB  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.espAC  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.espAD  ImpeREAL Forts + Silverfish River Patch.espAE  West Roads.espAF  Frostcrag Village.esp  [Version 1.0.7]B0  DLCFrostcrag Reborn - Frostcrag Village Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]B1  RST+Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 1.1]B2  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]B3  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]B4  Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp  [Version 1.2.5]B5  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]B6  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.espB7  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp++  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.espB8  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.espB9  Class Advantages.esp  [Version 1.01]BA  seorin's Artifact Fix.esp++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.espBB  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.2.3]BC  RealisticFatigue.espBD  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 5.7]++  turnundeadrestoration.espBE  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]BF  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]C0  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]C1  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]C2  MidasSpells.espC3  Midas OscuroGems.esp++  Midas Betterholy.esp++  Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp++  Midas PowDur2x.esp++  Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.espC4  Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.espC5  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.espC6  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]C7  ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.espC8  ZumbsLockpickingMod - Hide Difficulty Addon.espC9  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]CA  Creature Damage Fix.esp  [Version 2.4]CB  kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.espCC  Phitt's Phighting Phixes.espCD  Bundlement.esp  [Version ision]CE  nGCD.espCF  nGCD Oghma Infinium.espD0  JCN_AV Uncap.esp  [Version 1.01]**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]D1  Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.espD2  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 4.04]**  1em_Vilja MMM FCOM Fix.espD3  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]D4  MoonshadowRBP.esp++  DiverseDremoraRBPCosmetics.esp  [Version 0.95]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp++  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.espD5  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]D6  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]D7  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]D8  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 1.0a]**  bgIntegrationEV - Alternative NPC Faces by LazyMonk.esp  [Version 0.99]++  bgIntegrationEV - Unique Clothes.esp  [Version 1.0]D9  Silverfish&bgIntegrationPatch.espDA  bgIntegrationEV - COBL.espDB  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.1.7]DC  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]DD  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.1.7]DE  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 4.9.5]DF  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.9.5]E0  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 5.1.0]E1  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 5.0.0]E2  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 5.1.0]E3  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 5.0.0]E4  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]E5  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]E6  No More Annoying Comments.esp**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]E7  MiniMap.esp**  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp++  Bashed Delayers - MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 3.1.29b]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3.2]++  PAPArmorRefit.espE8  Bashed Patch, 0.espE9  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot beta Place After Bashed Patch.esp

» Wed May 02, 2012 8:22 pm

1E Realistic Water.esp

Which version of this are you using? Version 3 is known to be buggy and cause CTDs. Version 2 is the recommended one to use.

Artorius.

» Thu May 03, 2012 5:54 am

Are you using Oblivion Stutter Remover? If so, try temporarily changing bReplaceHeap to 0 in the OSR INI file and see if it makes a difference.

» Wed May 02, 2012 11:21 pm

Which version of this are you using? Version 3 is known to be buggy and cause CTDs. Version 2 is the recommended one to use.

Artorius.

Apparently I am using version 3. I'll replace it with 2 and see if that makes a difference.

...it did not, but if it's buggy it's good that I replaced it anyway. Thanks. :smile:

Are you using Oblivion Stutter Remover? If so, try temporarily changing bReplaceHeap to 0 in the OSR INI file and see if it makes a difference.

I am, and I'll try this and see what happens.

...huh. It still crashes, but the memory climbs much slower, so that it takes 2-3 minutes to get to the cap.

Leaving it enabled and changing the Heap algorithm or size doesn't seem to make a difference.

Edit: Also tried copying over a fresh Bashed Patch after deleting my old one and rebuilding. It's now half the size it was (?!), but I still can't load anything. When I try with an earlier save, the loading bar doesn't even move. The memory usage just climbs until it crashes.

» Thu May 03, 2012 2:44 am

When I try with an earlier save, the loading bar doesn't even move. The memory usage just climbs until it crashes.

This reminds me of a problem I had once when Better Cities updated and a compatibility patch I had made on the previous version didn't like it.

Its possible that one of your UL Compatibility patches is no longer valid. Try disabling all ULs and any dependent patches and see what happens.

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:27 am

Sadly, that doesn't seem to have helped.

I found that if I tried to load an interior save (in AFK_Weye's manor) directly before the previous save I've been trying, the loading bar gets maybe 20% of the way across before it stops and then the game crashes.

Edit: Now BOSS crashes every time I try to run it, but only for Oblivion. What is going on? :brokencomputer:

Edit edit: If I revert to the 1.68 UL compilation down from the 1.72 compliation, BOSS runs fine. I've got to be doing something really wrong, but I'm not sure what.

Edit edit edit: Just to be sure, I sorted my mod packages by date, and upgrading the UL compilation from 1.68 to 1.72 was the only change I made before the saves stopped loading.

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:41 am

Well, if I pare it down to the following list:

Active Mod Files:

Spoiler

00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3.2]02  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]03  Fundament.esm  [Version ision]04  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.1]05  UOPS Additional Changes.esp06  DLCShiveringIsles.esp07  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]08  USIPS Additional Changes.esp09  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.32.COBL]0A  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp0B  Class Advantages.esp  [Version 1.01]0C  MidasSpells.esp0D  Bundlement.esp  [Version ision]0E  nGCD.esp0F  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp10  JCN_AV Uncap.esp  [Version 1.01]11  Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp12  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 4.04]13  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]14  MoonshadowRBP.esp15  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]16  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]17  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]18  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]19  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]1A  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]1B  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]1C  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]1D  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]1E  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]1F  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 1.0a]20  bgIntegrationEV - Alternative NPC Faces by LazyMonk.esp  [Version 0.99]21  bgIntegrationEV - Unique Clothes.esp  [Version 1.0]22  bgIntegrationEV - COBL.esp

...then it loads. I mean, the sky is a giant purple box, people are naked or without bodies or heads, etc., but it loads. Time to narrow it down and see what the problem is.

At least now I know that there's a mod causing it. :smile:

Hmm. This list: Active Mod Files:

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00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3.2]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.1.6]0A  Fundament.esm  [Version ision]0B  CustomSpellIcons.esm0C  FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.1]0E  UOPS Additional Changes.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]11  USIPS Additional Changes.esp12  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]13  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]16  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]17  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp18  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1B  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.33]1C  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3.2]1D  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]1E  Realistic Water.esp1F  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]20  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp21  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3.2]22  WindowLightingSystem.esp23  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp24  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp25  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp26  Paladin.esp27  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp28  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.9]29  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]2A  Reznod_Mannequin.esp2B  Willful Resistance.esp2C  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]2D  Crowded Cities 15.esp2E  Get Wet v0.92.esp2F  Immersive Combat Music.esp  [Version 1.00]30  kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp31  kuerteeCleanUp.esp32  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp33  Lock Bash Omega.esp  [Version 1.5]34  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]35  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1]36  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.2]37  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]38  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3]39  DLCHorseArmor.esp3A  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]3B  DLCOrrery.esp3C  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3D  DLCVileLair.esp3E  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]3F  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp40  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]41  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]42  DLCSpellTomes.esp43  Dread Knight Armor.esp44  HTBShopInABottle.esp45  Morrowind Robes and Dresses for HGEC.esp46  Athletics While Riding.esp47  DLCThievesDen.esp48  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]49  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]4A  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]4B  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]4C  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp4D  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4E  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]4F  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]50  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]51  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]52  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]53  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]54  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]55  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]56  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]57  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]58  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]59  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]5A  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]5B  Mage Equipment - OOO.esp5C  Plate Armor Plus - OOO_FCOM_version.esp5D  300_Artifacts.esp5E  BladeOfTheHaunted.esp  [Version 3.0]5F  Gift of Kynareth.esp60  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp  [Version 2.11]61  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp62  LetThePeopleDrink-fountainonly-Cobl.esp  [Version 2.5]63  KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp64  Quest-Related Dungeons Marked.esp65  StopDarkBrotherhood.esp66  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]67  TheForgottenShields.esp68  NRB4+ForgottonShields Patch.esp69  Tona's_ModsStore.esp6A  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp6B  VOILA.esp6C  VOILA - Soldiers of Empire.esp6D  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 3.0.4]6E  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp6F  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]70  DLCfrostcrag.esp71  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]72  DLCFrostcragReborn.esp  [Version 1.4.0]73  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp74  Knights.esp75  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]76  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]77  Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp  [Version 1.0]78  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.32.COBL]79  ReclaimSancreTor.esp  [Version 1.0.4]7A  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.6.2]7B  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0.8]7C  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.13]7D  Molapi.esp  [Version 1.0.1]7E  Reedstand.esp  [Version 1.0.4]7F  Vergayun.esp  [Version 2.0.2]80  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp81  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp82  West Roads.esp83  Frostcrag Village.esp  [Version 1.0.7]84  DLCFrostcrag Reborn - Frostcrag Village Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]85  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]86  Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp  [Version 1.2.5]87  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]88  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp89  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp8A  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp8B  Class Advantages.esp  [Version 1.01]8C  seorin's Artifact Fix.esp8D  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.2.3]8E  RealisticFatigue.esp8F  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 5.7]90  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]91  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]92  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]93  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]94  MidasSpells.esp95  Midas OscuroGems.esp96  Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp97  EnchantmentRestore.esp98  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]99  ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp9A  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]9B  Creature Damage Fix.esp  [Version 2.4]9C  kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp9D  Phitt's Phighting Phixes.esp9E  Bundlement.esp  [Version ision]9F  nGCD.espA0  nGCD Oghma Infinium.espA1  JCN_AV Uncap.esp  [Version 1.01]A2  Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.espA3  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 4.04]A4  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]A5  MoonshadowRBP.espA6  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]A7  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]A8  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]A9  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 1.0a]AA  bgIntegrationEV - COBL.espAB  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.1.7]AC  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]AD  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.1.7]AE  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]AF  No More Annoying Comments.espB0  MiniMap.espB1  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot beta Place After Bashed Patch.esp

...works fine. But this list: Active Mod Files:

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00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3.2]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.1.6]0A  Fundament.esm  [Version ision]0B  CustomSpellIcons.esm++  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp++  TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp0C  FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.1]0E  UOPS Additional Changes.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]11  USIPS Additional Changes.esp12  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]13  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]16  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]17  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp18  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  LoadingScreens.esp++  LoadingScreensSI.esp1A  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1B  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.33]1C  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3.2]++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]1D  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]1E  Realistic Water.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp1F  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]20  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp21  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3.2]22  WindowLightingSystem.esp23  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp24  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp25  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp++  ChaseCameraMod.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]26  Paladin.esp27  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp28  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.9]29  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]2A  Reznod_Mannequin.esp2B  Willful Resistance.esp2C  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]2D  Crowded Cities 15.esp2E  Get Wet v0.92.esp2F  Immersive Combat Music.esp  [Version 1.00]30  kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp31  kuerteeCleanUp.esp32  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp33  Lock Bash Omega.esp  [Version 1.5]34  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]35  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1]36  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.2]37  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]38  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3]39  DLCHorseArmor.esp3A  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]3B  DLCOrrery.esp3C  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3D  DLCVileLair.esp3E  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]3F  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp40  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]41  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]42  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  Book Jackets DLC.esp++  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp43  Dread Knight Armor.esp44  HTBShopInABottle.esp45  Morrowind Robes and Dresses for HGEC.esp46  Athletics While Riding.esp47  DLCThievesDen.esp48  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]49  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp  [Version Beta]4A  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]4B  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]4C  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp4D  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4E  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]4F  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]50  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]**  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp++  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]51  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]52  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderhardcoe.esp  [Version 0.9.9]53  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]54  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]55  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]56  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]57  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]58  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]59  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]5A  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5B  Mage Equipment - OOO.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp++  DiverseDremoraFemales.esp  [Version amped]++  DiverseDremoraArmorFCOM.esp  [Version 0.95]5C  Plate Armor Plus - OOO_FCOM_version.esp5D  300_Artifacts.esp5E  BladeOfTheHaunted.esp  [Version 3.0]5F  Gift of Kynareth.esp60  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp  [Version 2.11]61  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp62  LetThePeopleDrink-fountainonly-Cobl.esp  [Version 2.5]63  KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp64  Quest-Related Dungeons Marked.esp65  StopDarkBrotherhood.esp66  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]67  TheForgottenShields.esp68  NRB4+ForgottonShields Patch.esp69  Tona's_ModsStore.esp6A  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp6B  VOILA.esp6C  VOILA - Soldiers of Empire.esp6D  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 3.0.4]6E  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp6F  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]70  DLCfrostcrag.esp71  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]72  DLCFrostcragReborn.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  DLCFrostcrag_MysticEmporiumPatch.esp73  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp74  Knights.esp75  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]++  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp76  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]77  Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp  [Version 1.0]**  DLC_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]78  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.32.COBL]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_SlofsHorses.esp79  ReclaimSancreTor.esp  [Version 1.0.4]7A  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.6.2]7B  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0.8]7C  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.13]7D  Molapi.esp  [Version 1.0.1]7E  Reedstand.esp  [Version 1.0.4]7F  Vergayun.esp  [Version 2.0.2]80  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp81  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp82  West Roads.esp83  Frostcrag Village.esp  [Version 1.0.7]84  DLCFrostcrag Reborn - Frostcrag Village Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]85  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]86  Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp  [Version 1.2.5]87  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]88  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp89  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp++  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp8A  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp8B  Class Advantages.esp  [Version 1.01]8C  seorin's Artifact Fix.esp++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp8D  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.2.3]8E  RealisticFatigue.esp8F  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 5.7]++  turnundeadrestoration.esp90  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]91  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]92  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]93  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]94  MidasSpells.esp95  Midas OscuroGems.esp++  Midas Betterholy.esp++  Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp++  Midas PowDur2x.esp++  Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp96  Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp97  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp98  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]99  ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp++  ZumbsLockpickingMod - Hide Difficulty Addon.esp9A  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]9B  Creature Damage Fix.esp  [Version 2.4]9C  kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp9D  Phitt's Phighting Phixes.esp9E  Bundlement.esp  [Version ision]9F  nGCD.espA0  nGCD Oghma Infinium.espA1  JCN_AV Uncap.esp  [Version 1.01]**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]A2  Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.espA3  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 4.04]**  1em_Vilja MMM FCOM Fix.espA4  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]A5  MoonshadowRBP.esp++  DiverseDremoraRBPCosmetics.esp  [Version 0.95]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp++  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.espA6  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]A7  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]A8  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]A9  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 1.0a]**  bgIntegrationEV - Alternative NPC Faces by LazyMonk.esp  [Version 0.99]++  bgIntegrationEV - Unique Clothes.esp  [Version 1.0]AA  bgIntegrationEV - COBL.espAB  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.1.7]AC  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]AD  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.1.7]++  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 4.9.5]++  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 5.0.0]AE  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]AF  No More Annoying Comments.esp**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]B0  MiniMap.esp++  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp++  Bashed Delayers - MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 3.1.29b]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3.2]++  PAPArmorRefit.espB1  Bashed Patch, 0.espB2  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot beta Place After Bashed Patch.esp

Still crashes. The only difference being whether I've ticked the Bashed Patch or not. I should have purged out all the UL files and patches, so I'm not sure what's left. I guess I can go through them bit by bit when I have more time.

» Thu May 03, 2012 1:02 am

Still crashes. The only difference being whether I've ticked the Bashed Patch or not. I should have purged out all the UL files and patches, so I'm not sure what's left. I guess I can go through them bit by bit when I have more time.

Uh, this may seem obvious but ... you have been rebuilding your Bashed Patch everytime you add or remove a mod, haven't you? Otherwise you not only can get missing masters but also all kinds of mysterious strangeness (like the missing meshes you seem to be seeing now). The same rule applies to running TES4LodGen because it is totally dependent upon load order.

Also, don't forget your OBSE plugins. Unused ones just sitting in the folder get loaded and can also cause CTDs.

-Dubious-

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:02 am

Uh, this may seem obvious but ... you have been rebuilding your Bashed Patch everytime you add or remove a mod, haven't you? Otherwise you not only can get missing masters but also all kinds of mysterious strangeness (like the missing meshes you seem to be seeing now). The same rule applies to running TES4LodGen because it is totally dependent upon load order.

Yep. I've even deleted the Bashed Patch a couple times and copied in a fresh one from the Wrye Bash backup.

The missing meshes are because I managed to get it to load with a minimal batch of mods. If I untick my Bashed Patch, it loads now, but if I tick it back it crashes.

» Thu May 03, 2012 3:46 am

Had 2 previous games get lost due to this. This was back in 2008. One time it was due to a WB update (bashed patch built by an older version of WB worked, the newer version did not).

Lesson learnt - don't add mods in the middle of a game. Of course, I don't follow that. Now that Oblivion mods are slow in coming, I have to try hard not to tweak every game or add every mod, and just play.

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:52 am

Had 2 previous games get lost due to this. This was back in 2008. One time it was due to a WB update (bashed patch built by an older version of WB worked, the newer version did not).

Lesson learnt - don't add mods in the middle of a game. Of course, I don't follow that. Now that Oblivion mods are slow in coming, I have to try hard not to tweak every game or add every mod, and just play.

But, but, but...

...yeah, I think you're right. :cry:

Ah, well. I'll just wait until the new FCOM comes out again. That should give me enough time that I won't get annoyed going through all the beginning quests another time.

Thanks everyone who tried to help!