The Book of Eli is post-apocalyptic and involves a lone wanderer, but the comparisons stop there, imo.

Eli has a singular purpose and conviction. I'm not sure how the same can be said of the LW. Not only does the player dictate the morality of the LW, but what little characterization the writing provides seems to indicate an individual who is confused and in search of answers. Everything the LW does is either a function or byproduct of trying to find those answers. As a character, the LW seems to be "going with the flow" and very malleable from a moral standpoint. Saying the LW is trying to make the wasteland better is very presumptuous. The LW may be trying to simply find answers, gain his/her father's approval, get revenge on his father for abandoning him/her or simply serve his/her own ambitions.

The LW didn't exit Vault 101 thinking "I'm going to make the wasteland better", he/she came out wondering "wth is going on and wth am I going to do?" Sure, the LW was intent on finding Dad, but what that meant from a moral standpoint and what the ramifications would be was totally unclear in the early stages of the game.

Really, it's too bad the game wasn't better written, because the LW is perhaps the most malleable of all the Fallout protagonists. With more options it would have made for great rp.

And let's be honest here, a LW-type in a wasteland setting is hardly a unique premise. Those are very loose criteria for drawing comparisons.

The reason I said, that they both try to make the wasteland a better place, is only if LW follows the main quest. Beating the game, and purifying Project Purity, is what LW WILL do, in order to beat the game. Yes, maybe an LW character might subject the FEV virus, into the purification system, but it only affects creatures, that have been affected/mutated by radiation. Accept or deny Eden's offer, you will still be doing good to the wasteland. It would still be helping the people of the wastes, overcome radiation and survive. So...in order to maintain a complete LW, one must complete the main quest and/or game. And in order to beat the game, you WILL purify the waters of life, whether that be, containing FEV virus or not.

And I know that LW hadn't of come out of the vault, with the expectations of saving the wasteland. But throughout the game, LW will HAVE to realize the hardships of the wasteland and will purify the waters, either way, you try and play.

You have to put yourself in LW's mind and think of what "Trying to make the wasteland a better place", to LW is.

An LW's mind, that would deny Eden's offer, would be that of him/her wanting to make the wasteland a better place, by cleaning away the radiation and having clean water, that doesn't harm any human/creature in the wastes. Also, to follow his father's footsteps and do what LW was destined to do and that was to purify the waters of life, for any and all.

An LW's mind that would accept Eden's offer, would be that of him/her wanting to make the wasteland a better place, by planting the FEV virus, within the system, so it can harm radiated creatures/humans, off the face of the wasteland, so the wasteland can be safer and free from any dangers.

So...if you think about it...whichever LW you choose to play as, he/she is still trying to make the wasteland a better place, no matter what.

"Hope You're Staying Out Of Trouble, Now"

Obviously i havnt seen book of eli guys, and yeah i got the title of the thread messed up sorry guys...
But yeah i need to get round to watching book of eli

Really?
I thought Book Of Eli was a religious movie about how important it is to save Christianity even after the apocalypse?
Being the utmost outstanding Atheist that I am, I wasn't exactly thrilled at that twist and it left me with a sour taste in my mouth.

But from what I can remember, Eli cared about his bible, not the wasteland.
Where as Lone Wanderer cares about his/her dad, Lyons Brotherhood or the actual wasteland.
Wouldn't say they're similar in this regard at all.

Dude. No [censored].

Those what makes fallout special from all other post apocalyptic media. Tr book of Eli are still similar, ignoring those.

Eli tries to preserve the bible, in order for there to be hope, within the wasteland, so many can see the light.

LW tries to undergo Project Purity and purify the system(With or without the FEV) in order for their to be pure water for any and all(or just humans)

So yes. Just because one has something to do with preserving the word of the bible, while the other has something to do, with purifying water for any and all, they're still both trying to make the wasteland a better place, as I said before.

"Hope You're Staying Out Of Trouble, Now"

I don't think saving Christianity would make the wasteland a Better place.
I think it would make it a horrible place, and that once again religious zealotry and opposing ideologies will cause war and suffering.
I can understand making water clean a good thing, I can't understand saving a religion which has caused so much death, suffering and ignorance a good thing.

Even though he is talking about the movie, I am Legend (the book published in 1954) could be the first post-apocalypse thing with a lone wanderer character and a dog.

I'm not disagreeing with you at all, but is that a can of worms we want to open here?

Eli believed he was doing good, which is more cogent to Gabriel Simms' argument (which I still disagree with). I don't think the LW was a character clearly set out to do good. I don't think the LW had any long term goal beyond finding his/her dad.

1. No, it is not, but it's hard to discuss Book Of Eli for me without draggin in the aspect I... Don't fancy.

2. Me neither, The Lone Wanderer, like every protagonist for a Fallout game, set out into the wasteland for completely selfish reasons, whether he/she help or screw people is a different story. Eli on the other hand set out to do (what he thought was) good. While the Lone Wanderer wanted to find the only relative he/she had. Hell, after he dies and you escape I can't remember why the LW even want to help the BOS. Perhaps to honor her father? Again, I think it's for selfish reasons.

Not to get to much off topic and I am not trying to start a debate. But the movie was about simply preserving knowlegde. Holy books from many religions were preserved in the end. The movie is also about the dangers of illiteracy and how religion can be used as a weapon.

But that could just be my take on the movie.

I agree with you and cloudstrife, it is a can of worms and that's all I am going to say on that

Sometimes I do hate the strict rules we have here... Can't speak open about this, can't discuss it, can't share more opinions on it.
Ugh..

To the PM!

I'm thinking the OP meant the feel between the two is similar. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The movie is not about that at all, its about selfishness, and how in a post apocalyptic situation its going to get you killed, the message is really grade school stuff, learn to share. Eli was being selfish keeping the book to himself, and Gary Oldman was being selfish for wanting to use the book for his own reasons, his motivations being his parents where crazy abusive religious people who would beat him and spend all their money donating it to one of those mega churches. So it really doesn't paint religion in a good light, or humanity for that matter.

Wel, was a long time since I last saw it and it left such a bad taste in my mouth that I've probably been blocking parts out it out of my brain.

Not in the tiniest little bit.
Fallout 3 makes sense for one thing. And it's a huge, post apocolyptic story involving big nuclear bombs, radiation, a sick, dark world and people prewar and postwar.
It's a unique world.

I Am Legend is pretentious drivel. The most recent film had the most pathetic zombies/mutants ever.
The most that happens is he goes a bit crazy, makes a cure then dies.

I saw part of the older film, The Omega Man. That looks just as bad. Worse than the modern one.

But all post apocolyptic stories, whatever they are, look a bit similer sometimes. The good ones will all share a feel. It's the general feeling of pieces of society as it should be,and was, amid the signs of the apocolypse, in a a post apocolyptic world, which makes it all the more interesting.

If done right they're scary, sometimes horrific, will leave you going oh gods, those poor people, when things sink in after the flash bangs fade, will be cool and interesting, and make you like them, but be glad you don't live there or near.
And most importantly, they're scariness is never so bad it stops it being fun or interesting.
When done badly they're just a depressing miseryfest that serves no purpose as entertainment and may as well be called Duck and Cover, this serves no purpose whatsoever.
The miserys so bad, theres no story, no interest, no point to any of it.
The bad stuff can mimic the good things of good ones, superficially, but never goes anywere with it.

So in a way, Niers sad, scary, post apocolyptic, world has things in common with Fallouts retro futuristic, sick, radioactive. dark, one, the more functional, less despressing, Babylon A.D, and other good post apocolyptic games, films, tv, etc.

And a man and a dogs pretty logical. And probabely some reference to some tedious tripe like the Mad Max crap.

yes the first time i played it it reminded me of it becuase i could not find anyone

Yes... Practically there are no people on Capital Wasteland.

Really? I never felt alone in the Capital Wasteland what with all of the raiders, slavers, wanderers, Outcast patrols and other random encounters.