Blue screen of death on character taking damage

Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:40 am

The damndest thing.

I loaded up my Fallout 3 game that is modded. I wanted to finish what I had to play before finally trying out New Vegas. Here is the Active Mod Files:
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Main.esp [CRC: E9DAFF1A]B2  Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Anchorage.esp [CRC: BBBB14BA]B3  Xepha's Dynamic Weather - The Pitt.esp [CRC: 3C43D2C0]B4  Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Broken Steel.esp [CRC: 29982E88]B5  Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Point Lookout.esp [CRC: 50E9B910]B6  Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Rain.esp [CRC: 99BD8CF4]B7  Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Sandstorm.esp [CRC: 6ACA52E5]B8  Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Dynamic Sneak Bonus.esp [CRC: 2E88F8A9]B9  Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Green Tint Remover.esp [CRC: B5AF1AB2]BA  Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Sandstorms Damage Armor.esp [CRC: 371074C5]BB  robco certified v2 omnipatch.esp [CRC: BBE23ACF]++  RobCo Certified v2 Impervious FWE.esp [CRC: 2BE7D0B7]BC  xcalibruniverse.esp [CRC: CB582949]BD  xcalibr - alternative path.esp [CRC: 1F49E47D]BE  xcalibruniverse - wmk.esp [CRC: 2A96150B]BF  xcalibruniverse_fwe_fps.esp [CRC: 7ED316C1]++  xCALIBRammo_FWE.esp [CRC: FB830E76]++  frederyck+FWE+xCALIBR.esp [CRC: 956E1D33]C0  tubunarfwe.esp [CRC: DDA6A764]C1  tubunarcombatfwe.esp [CRC: 6ECCB712]C2  Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: 54C077BF]
The problem: Everytime my character takes damage out in the wasteland open world the game ctds so hard that it blue screens. This means full stop of the comupter and a reboot. This does not seem to happen in interiors or mod added areas. For instance I finished Cube experimental just before Skyrim was released and no problems with that. I haven't had a load order change in months.

Seems pretty severe ... This same hard drive is where I have all my games that are not steam related: Morrowind, Oblivion x4, Fallout3, and a few others. Since it only happens when the character takes damage - it has to be something in the mods ... right? Nothing else in the game even makes it flinch - no ctds - endless transitions, many mods max textures, etc.

Well I'm opening this thread - in case anyone might have knowledge or had similar experiences they could share to help me narrow it down. I know I will probably end up stripping the entire load order down till it stops - it is just that since this kind of crash is so harsh (and probably bad for my hardware) I'm wanting to find out with as little trial and error as possible.

If I knew how to better navigate the Windows Event viewer I may be able to find out what the error code was on the blue screen. It goes to fast to get the number but it does say page fault error or something to that effect.
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Jessica Raven
 
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:19 pm

If you've not changed your load order recently, then perhaps it's a corrupt save?

I did actually have something similar a while back - something was either spawning or being shot by an npc around megaton and the game would crash - I've a feeling it was something to do with Wasteland Economy, but it may have been me testing script changes without clean saving first. Or my save was corrupt - I don't know - either way after it BSOD'd I just reinstalled the game - it had already started being "funky" for a while anyway.

Not entirely helpful, I know... :unsure:

But, if it used to work okay, then it makes sense that their's nothing wrong with the load order, no?

I'd try previous saves first, then if that doesn't help, copy out your saves to another folder and try starting a new game.

It could well be a windows/gfx driver update doesn't like something about the game/save anymore - try updating those.


Any entries in the event viewer occuring around the time of the crash are most likely what you're looking for. They should contain something along the lines of (eg.) "STOP: 0x0000007B (0xEB82784C, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)".

There is an option to stop the rebooting on a BSOD - on Win XP do: Control Panel > System > Advanced (Tab) > Startup and Recovery (Settings) > Uncheck "Automatically Restart". It "should" be something similar on Vista/7 - what do you have?

Hmmm...
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Sarah Kim
 
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:00 pm

I have Vista 64.

Hmm - yeah I guess I should try a new game prior to stripping my load order.

With Skyrim and other games available - it is so easy to get distracted and find better things to do than resolve this. I may also end up building a new computer of something close to that ... so we will see.

But thanks for the advice.

Speaking of Skyrim - are you there yet? I'd really like to see a port/remake of Dynamic weather there. That is a favorite of mine with F3.
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Jessica Raven
 
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:19 am

Yeah, Santa gave me a lift upto Skyrim on his sleigh! :biggrin:

At the moment I'm busy getting lost - this TES stuff is all new to me! :blink: But, no doubt, I'll be having a rummage around once the CK arrives. :yes:
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:02 pm

Well this is still damn frustrating.

A new game did not yeild any BSOD crashes ... or any crashes. I really don't have any older saves that I can return to. Or more pointedly any that I want to return to.

Deactivated about half my mods and still it continues. It only occurs though under very specific conditions. When the character is being hit by 4+ opponents at once. I've tested it several times and one to one up to one to three and no BSOD. If he gets caught in the crossfire the crash always occurs when being hit by multiple opponents..

I will eventually get around to stripping the load order even further - just that every time I see a blue screen my mind thinks "this is not a good idea to induce over and over again ... this can't be good for my system."

From reading the event viewer I'm not seeing the error number like I am on the BSOD (which is some for of page fault error). I am seeing http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc775053%28WS.10%29.aspx in the applications area of the event viewer always near the ctd/BSOD crashe times.
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мistrєss
 
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:04 am

I would suggest that the next time you have a BSOD, you write down the error and than google the error and error code. This will give you a starting point to correct your problem. Without the exact error that is being shown on the BSOD, no one here can help you.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 6:36 pm

Yes I know and when I return to it I will try and do that.

Windows problems and solutions seemed to log this though:
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Problem signature
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Fallout3.exe
Application Version: 1.7.0.3
Application Timestamp: 4a40f18b
Fault Module Name: Fallout3.exe
Fault Module Version: 1.7.0.3
Fault Module Timestamp: 4a40f18b
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 00227180
OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: fd00
Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
Additional Information 3: fd00
Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160

and ...Problem signature
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Fallout3.exe
Application Version: 1.7.0.3
Application Timestamp: 4a40f18b
Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.0.6001.18538
Fault Module Timestamp: 4cb733e1
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 00060766
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: fd00
Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
Additional Information 3: fd00
Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160

and ... Problem signature
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Fallout3.exe
Application Version: 1.7.0.3
Application Timestamp: 4a40f18b
Fault Module Name: DINPUT8.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.0.6001.18000
Fault Module Timestamp: 4791a672
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 00015b7b
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: fd00
Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
Additional Information 3: fd00
Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
Just putting these up for now. Once I'm done with another big project will try and grab those BSOD error codes.
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