Armor Changes Mods?

Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:42 pm

Are there any mods that changes all the main armor suits to be more like Oblivion's and Skyrim's?

Prolly isn't so I am doing it myself but it is a hassle so I wanna know if someone else had already done it or not.

Before people ask me. I want this cause I want less lagged in my game. Putting Pauldrons, Greaves, and/or Gauntlets together will do this. I've tested this on Bonemold armor first. Before hand, the game will lagged and the armor will be all glitchy like the Pauldrons are trying to overlap the cuirass and vice-versa. That sort of thing got annoying. After I combined the Cuirass, Pauldrons, and Gauntlets together; I didn't got none of this. Anyways, that is why I am looking for, or at least making, a mod that does this. Less lag and glitches. (This is something I agree with that Bethesda did in Oblivion and Skyrim)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:10 pm

Are there any mods that changes all the main armor suits to be more like Oblivion's and Skyrim's?

Prolly isn't so I am doing it myself but it is a hassle so I wanna know if someone else had already done it or not.

Before people ask me. I want this cause I want less lagged in my game. Putting Pauldrons, Greaves, and/or Gauntlets together will do this. I've tested this on Bonemold armor first. Before hand, the game will lagged and the armor will be all glitchy like the Pauldrons are trying to overlap the cuirass and vice-versa. That sort of thing got annoying. After I combined the Cuirass, Pauldrons, and Gauntlets together; I didn't got none of this. Anyways, that is why I am looking for, or at least making, a mod that does this. Less lag and glitches. (This is something I agree with that Bethesda did in Oblivion and Skyrim)
I don't know why Morrowind's armor by itself would cause lag. There's certainly nothing stopping you from making a mod that does what you want. Just know that when you set the pauldron body parts to be linked to the cuirass, the pauldron body slot is still equipable, allowing you to 'double-dip' on armor. Same for Gauntlet pairs (this is a trick MCA uses to make randomized faces for NPCs).

I greatly prefer the customization of Morrowind's armor system.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:14 am

I greatly prefer the customization of Morrowind's armor system.

I second that Morrowind`s one is the best i have ever seen.The Oblivion and Skyrim ones dont seem that good(obviously after playing Morrowind).
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:18 am

If you can play Oblivion and Skyrim why would you worry about Morrowind's armor causing you lag?

Why not just tone down the other graphical enhancers rather than make your game even more unrealistic?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:59 pm

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As for another above poster. The Graphical glitch where the armor is constantly trying to over-lap one another is really annoying to me. I do like Morrowind's armor system, and all, but that annoying glitch is really annoying.

Also, I've edited the 'unused' pieces themselves and make it so they cannot be worn and are just really taking space. Them taking space does not bother me since I don't search every NPC corpse I come across.

Btw, Pauldrons are normally connected to the Cuirass itself. In real life, it is Greaves, Boots, Cuirass, Helm, Left Gauntlet, and Right Gauntlet. This is what I've seen in real life, anyways.

~Edit~
Also, I am only doing this for the NPCs. Not for myself. Armor that I will use will still be in pieces.

And this will allow more NPCs to be in one area due to less loading. Balmora loads better for me now (I have this huge Balmora Expansion Mod)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:42 pm


As for another above poster. The Graphical glitch where the armor is constantly trying to over-lap one another is really annoying to me. I do like Morrowind's armor system, and all, but that annoying glitch is really annoying.
I'm really scratching my head trying to figure out what this glitch is. Are you talking about pieces of armor clipping the character model?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:21 pm

I'm really scratching my head trying to figure out what this glitch is. Are you talking about pieces of armor clipping the character model?

I guess it is clipping or something like that. I kinda don't know the correct term for it.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:27 pm

I guess it is clipping or something like that. I kinda don't know the correct term for it.
Can you post a screenshot of what you're seeing in your game?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:34 am

Can you post a screenshot of what you're seeing in your game?

Sadly, no.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:09 pm

Lag??? The term has no meaning in Morrowind ... since the game is not played online.
If you mean Low FPS, well only the most high-poly Count armor mods, like HedgeHog's stuff, would have any affect on FPS when concerning armor. So unless you're using some really high-poly armor mods, (or your computer is 15 years old) I don't see why armor would slow your game down in any way.

If you mean clipping (which you seem to mean) you just have to live with it. MW is an old game so not everything is perfect, and there are very few mods that reduces clipping with armor. There's many mods to reduce clipping for clothing when used alongside BB (BC and MoreBC, etc,) but not armor.

Pauldrons and Cuirass' are not combined in MW for a very specific reason.... This gives the player more options of what to wear, what to Enchant, what bonuses they can use, etc. The same reason why in MW you can wear two different boots or gloves at the same time.


edit: Also, why can't you post a screenshot?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:30 am

edit: Also, why can't you post a screenshot?

My Morrowind stuff had been reset and I kinda forgot how to set it so you can take pictures while in-game.

Btw, as long as your computer is loading something, there is always a chance for lag. More items a NPC wear = higher chance of lag. Less items a NPC wear = lower chance of lag. Plus, my game lags a lot when there are so many stuff in one area, which does happens a lot in a game like Morrowind. So don't tell me armor can't cause lag cause it does. Btw, yeah. It prolly is the clipping.

And btw, the only reason why I would want more pieces (Instead of 4-5 like in Skyrim and Oblivion) is for a look but my personally looks can be done in 4 armor pieces + my claymore. (Armor, Helmet, Gauntlets, and Boots) I have no need to split it up into more.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 6:59 pm

It is as simple as that : Nobody except you is in need of such thing so most probably you will have to do it yourself what we can do here is guide you a little.

Ok as for my advice on that thing is: As Morrowind`s clothing system is far superior than Oblivion and Skyrim one it can be easily made to work like the latter ones with some work,though the clippings wont be gone but to do it:
For cuirass just open its slot in armor tab in construction set there wud be empty slots for more addition of body parts in it so find the respective pauldrons in armor tab and copy what it is in their body part slots.Same for gauntlets and boots with some little change.
Edit: Oh sry it seems you already know how to do it.
But still i dont think thats gonna reduce your FPS drop as net polycount will remain the same.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:11 pm

My Morrowind stuff had been reset and I kinda forgot how to set it so you can take pictures while in-game.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/106063-morrowind-mods-faq/page__p__1788581#entry1788581
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:34 pm

I already done it and it does reduce loading time and my game doesn't lag as much while exploring areas with a lot of Armored NPCs
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:35 pm

Traditionally....
Lag is the definition of when the connection between your internet serivce and the game's server slows down, thus causing online games to go slow and stutter. Games not played online do not encounter this type of slowdown.
But a drop in Frames-per-Second (FPS) is used when any video game slows down for any reason, usually because of the high demands the game is creating on the hardware.
Although many people say that any low FPS is a type of "lag" ...it is not lag in the tradiotnal sense.

Maybe I'm just old-school, but to me there's a difference in definition :tongue:
Anyways... Luckily it's always understand what the problem is, so it's just a preferential thing in the long run, I guess.

(sorry, I guess i'm off topic now.)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:23 pm

Traditionally....
Lag is the definition of when the connection between your internet serivce and the game's server slows down, thus causing online games to go slow and stutter. Games not played online do not encounter this type of slowdown.
But a drop in Frames-per-Second (FPS) is used when any video game slows down for any reason, usually because of the high demands the game is creating on the hardware.
Although many people say that any low FPS is a type of "lag" ...it is not lag in the tradiotnal sense.

Maybe I'm just old-school, but to me there's a difference in definition :tongue:
Anyways... Luckily it's always understand what the problem is, so it's just a preferential thing in the long run, I guess.

(sorry, I guess i'm off topic now.)

I normally use the term "lag" whenever the computer, or internet or both, is being slower than usual or is freezing up a lot. So.. I do say that my computer is lagging even though I am not on any game of some sort. Also, as far as I know, any game can lag depending on what is going on within the game and your computer. I have a very very old dell computer so it isn't good with Morrowind. Good enough to play it and all but not good enough for so much data to be in one spot.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:21 pm

I'm really scratching my head trying to figure out what this glitch is. Are you talking about pieces of armor clipping the character model?
So unless you're using some really high-poly armor mods, (or your computer is 15 years old) I don't see why armor would slow your game down in any way.

If you mean clipping (which you seem to mean) you just have to live with it. MW is an old game so not everything is perfect, and there are very few mods that reduces clipping with armor. There's many mods to reduce clipping for clothing when used alongside BB (BC and MoreBC, etc,) but not armor.
There is on for Divine Domina and BB actually. But I never noticed "overlapping" armor pieces on NPCs... at least at a rate that bugs me *head scratch*

So I really wonder and would ask for screens too.
I have a very very old dell computer so it isn't good with Morrowind. Good enough to play it and all but not good enough for so much data to be in one spot.

How you've been able to play Oblivion and Skyrim then?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:41 am

I normally use the term "lag" whenever the computer, or internet or both, is being slower than usual or is freezing up a lot. So.. I do say that my computer is lagging even though I am not on any game of some sort. Also, as far as I know, any game can lag depending on what is going on within the game and your computer. I have a very very old dell computer so it isn't good with Morrowind. Good enough to play it and all but not good enough for so much data to be in one spot.

Sell your Xbox and upgrade your computer. Don't blame us for making poor life decisions.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:08 am

How you've been able to play Oblivion and Skyrim then?

Xbox 360.

@ Mortimer: I've never blamed anyone. Wtf? And what poor life decision are you talking about? Seriously, you are confusing me here. And no, I wont sell my Xbox 360 cause I like playing games on the Xbox 360.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:59 am

What they're getting at is that for cRPG's, computers are generally considered superior. And so they're assuming that you mainly or solely play cRPG's, so they're saying trash the inferior system. And more on topic, if you think about it, your computer won't be doing any less; the pieces of the armor will still be there, but since you're combining them, your computer will be doing the same amount of calculations; there is no armor in the place where it would normally be (assuming i'm understanding you correctly). May I request a loadorder from you?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:52 pm

What they're getting at is that for cRPG's, computers are generally considered superior. And so they're assuming that you mainly or solely play cRPG's, so they're saying trash the inferior system. And more on topic, if you think about it, your computer won't be doing any less; the pieces of the armor will still be there, but since you're combining them, your computer will be doing the same amount of calculations; there is no armor in the place where it would normally be (assuming i'm understanding you correctly). May I request a loadorder from you?

I play a lot of games, not just RPGs. Halo and Mortal Kombat would be some examples for thee.

Anyways.. On topic, don't worry about it man. Things load better for me and that is all I needed. And like I said before, I don't care about the armor too much. Most of my favorite outfits are actually modded, which were untouched, so me doing this didn't cause no problems for me. Only major changes is some NPCs are slightly different than originally, which was to be expected, but that doesn't bother me. As long my game loads better now then I am happy that it had succeeded for what I wanted it to do.
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