Windows XP Ding crash : IV

» Thu May 03, 2012 1:44 pm

This is a strange crash and I wish I knew what to do or find out what is wrong. As I play Oblivion the Windows XP Ding sound will make noise once about 10 minutes in. Then, after 10 or 15 more minutes the same ding will sound and Oblivion will dump me to desktop. How do I find out what is wrong when there is no message to tell me what the problem was?

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:47 pm

This is a strange crash and I wish I knew what to do or find out what is wrong. As I play Oblivion the Windows XP Ding sound will make noise once about 10 minutes in. Then, after 10 or 15 more minutes the same ding will sound and Oblivion will dump me to desktop. How do I find out what is wrong when there is no message to tell me what the problem was?

Are you using any mods (i.e., Crash Prevention System)?

--Tomlong75210

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:18 am

These are my mods:

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0]
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0]
03 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
04 Fundament.esm [Version ision]
** Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp [Version 1.0]
05 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.1]
06 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
07 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0]
08 Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [Version 5.0]
09 Streamline 3.1.esp
0A DLCHorseArmor.esp
0B DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
0C DLCOrrery.esp
0D DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
0E DLCVileLair.esp
0F DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
10 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
11 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
12 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
13 DLCThievesDen.esp
14 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]
15 Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
16 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
17 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
18 TamrielTransportationNetwork.esp
19 DLCFrostcrag.esp
1A DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
1B Knights.esp
1C Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2]
** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
1D EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
1E Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp
1F Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0]
20 nGCD.esp
++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
21 bgIntegrationIntegratedEV.esp [Version 1.0ag]
** bgIntegrationEV - Alternative NPC Faces by LazyMonk.esp [Version 1.00]
22 Bashed Patch, Oblivion.esp

I just removed Oblivion Stutter Remover to exempt it from the list of suspects. Also using HGEC body and stock armor and clothes replacer. Also using OBGE v3 through bain install. I'll try removing those and install the Crash Prevention System.

» Thu May 03, 2012 1:11 pm

These are my mods:

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0]
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0]
03 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
04 Fundament.esm [Version ision]
** Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp [Version 1.0]
05 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.1]
06 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
07 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0]
08 Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [Version 5.0]
09 Streamline 3.1.esp
0A DLCHorseArmor.esp
0B DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
0C DLCOrrery.esp
0D DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
0E DLCVileLair.esp
0F DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
10 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
11 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
12 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
13 DLCThievesDen.esp
14 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]
15 Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
16 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
17 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
18 TamrielTransportationNetwork.esp
19 DLCFrostcrag.esp
1A DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
1B Knights.esp
1C Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2]
** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
1D EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
1E Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp
1F Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0]
20 nGCD.esp
++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
21 bgIntegrationIntegratedEV.esp [Version 1.0ag]
** bgIntegrationEV - Alternative NPC Faces by LazyMonk.esp [Version 1.00]
22 Bashed Patch, Oblivion.esp

I just removed Oblivion Stutter Remover to exempt it from the list of suspects. Also using HGEC body and stock armor and clothes replacer. Also using OBGE v3 through bain install. I'll try removing those and install the Crash Prevention System.

Oh, no, don't install the Crash Prevention System. I was just wondering whether or not you had it installed because it makes that sort of noise when it detects a potential crash. If it's an arbitrary ding before crashing, I'd guess some sort of hardware alert. As in, maybe your system sounds an alarm/beep when one of the components (i.e., CPU or GPU) reaches some warning temperature...

--Tomlong75210

Edit: Your load order looks very clean. Does your obse log contain anything about any of mods crashing? Check that and also, if you do not already have it installed, install Conscribe to get per-mod information. Maybe you'll catch the errors there. I think Conscribe requires one other OBSE plugin. Just read the reqs section.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:55 pm

Thank you for your advice, Tomlong7520. My windows is not set up to beep to warn for temperature, and I regularly spray the motherboard with duster. Before I saw your latest post I removed MMM and all components completely. After that was done I was able to play Oblivion for as long as I wanted without even a single crash.

I've seen several people testify that MMM is stable, but it doesn't seem to be so on my machine ( Core2Duo 3.0 GHz with 4 GB RAM ). If I decide to try MMM again then I will remember Conscribe. I will check my OBSE log for any information on the crashes. Maybe it will be good enough with just Frans and Integration for now.

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:02 pm

Thank you for your advice, Tomlong7520. My windows is not set up to beep to warn for temperature, and I regularly spray the motherboard with duster. Before I saw your latest post I removed MMM and all components completely. After that was done I was able to play Oblivion for as long as I wanted without even a single crash.

I've seen several people testify that MMM is stable, but it doesn't seem to be so on my machine ( Core2Duo 3.0 GHz with 4 GB RAM ). If I decide to try MMM again then I will remember Conscribe. I will check my OBSE log for any information on the crashes. Maybe it will be good enough with just Frans and Integration for now.

Hmmm... Interesting... MMM, I feel, is pretty stable, with the exception of certain plugins, but I don't see any suspects in your load order. You could always try enabling the add-ons one at a time until you run into the crash again. That's not too many plugins to go through. Maybe give each one a day of play time before adding the next. At least, you've narrowed down the possible cause to a very small list. Way to go!

Happy gaming!
--Tomlong75210