Value or file needing replacement: vanishing stats

Post » Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:59 pm

Here's something I think will be a challenge. At some point in the past I evidently ran a mod that replaced the value governing the display color of attributes or skills (in the character menu) that were artificially raised and lowered. In other words, if my character had a curse, or a blessing, or wore an amulet giving a plus to some attribute, instead of displaying it in red, etc, the attribute would vanish--because the color was now the same as the background menu color. The attribute/skill value is still being correctly raised or lowered behind the scenes, because that's easy to check in the console using "get(attribute)," but I'm not sure what I need to do to fix the absence of any visual clue. All reasonable ideas cheerfully accepted.
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Micah Judaeah
 
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Post » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:16 pm

Might be something that changed the Morrowind.ini settings under [FontColor] - here are the defaults that should control raised / lowered stats:

color_positive=223,201,159
color_negative=200,60,30
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Liii BLATES
 
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:11 am

Might be something that changed the Morrowind.ini settings under [FontColor] - here are the defaults that should control raised / lowered stats:

color_positive=223,201,159
color_negative=200,60,30


The good news is that there appear to have been some changes made to my ini file's font color section by some mod, in the past. The bad news is that it didn't affect either of the values, above. Here's the current font color values:

[FontColor]color_normal=56,46,7color_normal_over=121,97,49color_normal_pressed=196,178,135color_active=61,78,172color_active_over=104,122,226color_active_pressed=112,126,207color_disabled=256,256,256color_disabled_over=100,100,100color_disabled_pressed=200,200,200color_link=61,78,172color_link_over=104,122,226color_link_pressed=112,126,207color_journal_link=37,49,112color_journal_link_over=58,77,175color_journal_link_pressed=112,126,207color_journal_topic=0,0,0color_journal_topic_over=58,77,175color_journal_topic_pressed=112,126,207color_answer=150,50,30color_answer_over=223,201,159color_answer_pressed=243,237,221color_header=56,46,7color_notify=56,46,7color_big_normal=202,165,96color_big_normal_over=223,201,159color_big_normal_pressed=243,237,221color_big_link=112,126,207color_big_link_over=143,155,218color_big_link_pressed=175,184,228color_big_answer=150,50,30color_big_answer_over=223,201,159color_big_answer_pressed=243,237,22color_big_header=223,201,159color_big_notify=223,201,159color_background=256,256,256color_focus=80,80,80color_health=200,60,30color_magic=53,69,159color_fatigue=0,150,60color_misc=0,205,205color_weapon_fill=200,60,30color_magic_fill=200,60,30color_positive=223,201,159color_negative=200,60,30color_count=223,201,159


I'm not sure what to change, here. I tried replacing them all with the following values that were semi-colon'd out (and of course, I removed the semi-colons before saving) ;) :

;[FontColor];color_normal=202,165,96;color_normal_over=223,201,159;color_normal_pressed=243,237,221;;color_active=96,112,202;color_active_over=159,169,223;color_active_pressed=223,226,244;;color_disabled=179,168,135;color_disabled_over=223,201,159;color_disabled_pressed=243,237,221;;color_link=112,126,207;color_link_over=143,155,218;color_link_pressed=175,184,228;;color_journal_link=37,49,112;color_journal_link_over=58,77,175;color_journal_link_pressed=112,126,207;;color_journal_topic=0,0,0;color_journal_topic_over=58,77,175;color_journal_topic_pressed=112,126,207;;color_answer=150,50,30;color_answer_over=223,201,159;color_answer_pressed=243,237,221;;color_header=223,201,159;color_notify=223,201,159;;color_big_normal=202,165,96;color_big_normal_over=223,201,159;color_big_normal_pressed=243,237,221;;color_big_link=112,126,207;color_big_link_over=143,155,218;color_big_link_pressed=175,184,228;;color_big_answer=150,50,30;color_big_answer_over=223,201,159;color_big_answer_pressed=243,237,22;;color_big_header=223,201,159;color_big_notify=223,201,159;;color_background=0,0,0;color_focus=80,80,80;;color_health=200,60,30;color_magic=53,69,159;color_fatigue=0,150,60;;color_misc=0,205,205;;color_weapon_fill=200,60,30;color_magic_fill=200,60,30;;color_positive=223,201,159;color_negative=200,60,30;;color_count=223,201,159


That gave me the usual starting menu asking Yes, No, Yes to All, with text that was the same color as the background, so clearly returning completely to the old version isn't the answer. Ideas?
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Marie Maillos
 
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Post » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:24 pm

Comparing your values to mine these are my values for the differences (font colour's one thing I haven't messed around with in my INI):
color_normal=202,165,96color_normal_over=223,201,159color_normal_pressed=243,237,221color_active=96,112,202color_active_over=159,169,223color_active_pressed=223,226,244color_disabled=179,168,135color_disabled_over=223,201,159color_disabled_pressed=243,237,221color_link=112,126,207color_link_over=143,155,218color_link_pressed=175,184,228

color_header=223,201,159color_notify=223,201,159

color_header=223,201,159color_notify=223,201,159
What they all do? :shrug:
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:13 am

Comparing your values to mine these are my values for the differences (font colour's one thing I haven't messed around with in my INI):
color_normal=202,165,96color_normal_over=223,201,159color_normal_pressed=243,237,221color_active=96,112,202color_active_over=159,169,223color_active_pressed=223,226,244color_disabled=179,168,135color_disabled_over=223,201,159color_disabled_pressed=243,237,221color_link=112,126,207color_link_over=143,155,218color_link_pressed=175,184,228

color_header=223,201,159color_notify=223,201,159

color_header=223,201,159color_notify=223,201,159
What they all do? :shrug:


The Fontcolor section of the Morrowind wiki was never completed, sadly, so it's all guesswork based on what it appears to be. After a bit of trial and error I did find the right value to change: color_positive. 223,201,159 is just ever so slightly different from the background, so I need to make it brighter, which I will.
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Tyrel
 
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:17 am

Ah, crap that was a difference too. Messed up in my copy and pasting. Glad you got it.
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:54 am

Do you use an UI replacer, like the Oblivion Interface? If so, it would explain why the default colors clash with the background.
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