New California Republic Military Technology : Fallout Series Discussion

» Fri May 04, 2012 1:25 am

Because the Brotherhood hasn't exactly proven themselves to be responsible with the use of technology. The East Coast BOS now essentially contains the power of the Enclave, Liberty Prime, Hercules Bradley (if they are able to repair the Mobile Crawler somehow), they use conscription to supplement their numbers, and the Lone wanderer is at their beck and call (and likely very much alive by the time of New Vegas). Then of course if (God forbid) Mothership Zeta is somehow canon, they have a freaking death-ray at their disposal. They could win a war if they went to war and I don't trust them. Its far too much power for one faction.

Okay, that covers it. Also if Zeta is canon I might as well stop playing the series...

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:49 am

Okay, that covers it. Also if Zeta is canon I might as well stop playing the series...

Which is why I was hesitant to include it, but with Bethesda you never know really.

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:10 pm

Well the NCR have one real power armor, the scorched sierra power armor if u nuke them, but i guess thats the dudes personal armor.
Ok, but i doubt NCR has ballons.

Why couldn't the NCR have balloons?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autogyro or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microlight would be a better choice than balloons really. Given the energy density of batteries/power-cells in the Fallout universe a small aircraft powered by an electric motor turning a propeller would be very simple to make and the NCR easily has the tech-base for them.

But neither of those have the flight time, a balloon has, or the distance. I'm not talking about their fuel being a limiting factor, but the pilot themselves can't just keep flying around 24/7, they'd get tired and have to land to rest. In a balloon, the pilot could at least sit and rest in the basket while floating around.

With that though, I don't see why both couldn't be under NCR operations?

» Fri May 04, 2012 9:36 am

Why couldn't the NCR have balloons?

Im not saying they couldnt, just saying the probably wouldnt, and dont have balloons.
If you dont know so, they got a few airplanes in their posession, along with a few Vertibirds. Soooo i doubt they are trying to manifacture balloons.

» Fri May 04, 2012 3:57 am

Because the Brotherhood hasn't exactly proven themselves to be responsible with the use of technology. The East Coast BOS now essentially contains the power of the Enclave, Liberty Prime, Hercules Bradley (if they are able to repair the Mobile Crawler somehow), they use conscription to supplement their numbers, and the Lone wanderer is at their beck and call (and likely very much alive by the time of New Vegas). Then of course if (God forbid) Mothership Zeta is somehow canon, they have a freaking death-ray at their disposal. They could win a war if they went to war and I don't trust them. Its far too much power for one faction.

I agree, they have more power than the other factions, but in the decades since they've spoken with the WCBoS, they've gone out of their way to HELP people, and I think that of all the factions to have ALL that power (Minus Liberty Prime, that was blown to hell in Broken Steel if you remember) I find it safest for the ECBoS to have. And as for Zeta, that's controlled by a bunch of random people (minus the LW) who've lived throughout time, and only ONE of them was from post War era. The rest would have no idea who BoS is, and if anyone had real conversations with Soma, she was not the type to mingle with the BoS. Hell, it's possible those in the Zeta ship saw the rockets fire into space from RepCon. It's only a 4 year difference from FO3 to NV, so it's not much a stretch. Anyhow, So when you count it out, the BoS only has Hercules Bradley, and the Lone Wanderer, but since the main characters in all the Fallout games are usually more inclined to good (canon wise) I find it unlikely he/she would help ECBoS simply because they were friends, were the BoS to want and start wars with other factions.

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:31 am

Im not saying they couldnt, just saying the probably wouldnt, and dont have balloons.
If you dont know so, they got a few airplanes in their posession, along with a few Vertibirds. Soooo i doubt they are trying to manifacture balloons.

They have Vertibirds, but no airplanes like pre-war types; the ones at McCarren are planes that were there before the NCR even came to Vegas/Mojave. And their Vertibird supply, is probably very limited to as I said, VIPs, like the President (Bear Force 1) and others in the government and whatnot. That doesn't leave them to have much of an air force, if at all when it comes to other options.

» Fri May 04, 2012 8:21 am

They have Vertibirds, but no airplanes like pre-war types; the ones at McCarren are planes that were there before the NCR even came to Vegas/Mojave. And their Vertibird supply, is probably very limited to as I said, VIPs, like the President (Bear Force 1) and others in the government and whatnot. That doesn't leave them to have much of an air force, if at all when it comes to other options.

Yes they have airplanes (WIKI says so LOL). But it is unknown weither they are in working condition or how many.

» Fri May 04, 2012 3:11 am

Yes they have airplanes (WIKI says so LOL). But it is unknown weither they are in working condition or how many.

Can you give a link?

The wiki's wrong like 40% of the time.

» Fri May 04, 2012 4:51 pm

Can you give a link?

The wiki's wrong like 40% of the time.

Check under NCR in the wiki. And fair enough, but it doesnt sound wrong. If it was wrong it would probably say, NCR has 4000 airplanes shooting lazers or something.

» Fri May 04, 2012 3:06 am

I'd always imagined the NCR to be somewhat compareable to the GLA.
Technicals, Battle buses, Bikes and Quad cannons are all things I can see them being able to produce.
No SCUD storms though.

» Fri May 04, 2012 1:25 am

I'd always imagined the NCR to be somewhat compareable to the GLA.
Technicals, Battle buses, Bikes and Quad cannons are all things I can see them being able to produce.
No SCUD storms though.

Nahh, i dont think so. Well some of these things like bikes and maybe battle buses, but not like badass [censored] and quad cannons. They focus alot on the US army at the, i think about the time from 50s-70s.

» Fri May 04, 2012 8:09 am

Nahh, i dont think so. Well some of these things like bikes and maybe battle buses, but not like badass [censored] and quad cannons. They focus alot on the US army at the, i think about the time from 50s-70s.

Well its only just 4 .50 cals put onto the back of a flatbed truck or a Halftrack if your lucky.
Although I'd love to see a toxin tractor, oh the humor that would ensue!

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:49 pm

Yes they have airplanes (WIKI says so LOL). But it is unknown weither they are in working condition or how many.

Check under NCR in the wiki. And fair enough, but it doesnt sound wrong. If it was wrong it would probably say, NCR has 4000 airplanes shooting lazers or something.

By the sounds of it, it's made up. Like Sebor said, 40% of the time the wiki is wrong, and there's no evidence in game or lore, to say that the NCR operates aircraft other than captured Vertibirds they got from the Enclave. So it's something I wouldn't base my who defense around, as it does sound like someone made it up and just put it there.

Unless you can personally give me a link to something in game or otherwise, that's dependable, on them operating some aircraft other than Vertibirds, it's not actually something the NCR has.

» Fri May 04, 2012 10:14 am

The Ncr have various military tech avaliable. Judgeing by the way fallout new vegas was made. Both sides nubers are greatly under estimated and appreciated. They could possibly have a horse back calvarey branch the same with the legion. Granted the railroad systyem judgeing if the ncr won the war by 2300 should be operational in my theroy. That the ncr could lower the cost of goods and supplies. They could send troops from baja to new vegas in 36 hours or less if they are able to get the railroads running. pLus wood or coal could be used to power the trains.

» Fri May 04, 2012 7:02 am

The Ncr have various military tech avaliable. Judgeing by the way fallout new vegas was made. Both sides nubers are greatly under estimated and appreciated. They could possibly have a horse back calvarey branch the same with the legion. Granted the railroad systyem judgeing if the ncr won the war by 2300 should be operational in my theroy. That the ncr could lower the cost of goods and supplies. They could send troops from baja to new vegas in 36 hours or less if they are able to get the railroads running. pLus wood or coal could be used to power the trains.

They got the tech to maintain trains, and they might be able to use some of the trains back in Cali to use in the railroads from there to Vegas.