How necessary is it for Morrowind to add a bashed patch? It was practically necessary in Oblivion, but it doesn't seem to be as much of an issue in Morrowind to get different creature, armor, weapon, etc mods working together. Does Morrowind handle these assets differently than Oblivion? Am I missing anything by not using a bashed patch? If it helps, below is my modlist:


GameFile0=abotWaterLife.esm
GameFile1=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile2=BT_Whitewolf_2_0.esm
GameFile3=H.E.L.L.U.V.A._Merchant_Containers.esm
GameFile4=Morrowind Advanced.esm
GameFile5=Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm
GameFile6=Morrowind.esm
GameFile7=Poorly Placed Object Fix.esm
GameFile8=Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm
GameFile9=Texture Fix 2.0.esm
GameFile10=Tribunal.esm
GameFile11=TR_Data.esm
GameFile12=TR_Map1.esm
GameFile13=TR_Map2.esm
GameFile14=Wizards' Islands - Scourge of the Frost Bringer.esm
GameFile15=abotBoatsTR.esp
GameFile16=abotGondoliers.esp
GameFile17=abotRiverStridersTR.esp
GameFile18=abotSiltStridersTR.esp
GameFile19=abotWaterLifeTRaddon.esp
GameFile20=abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
GameFile21=abotWindowsGlow.esp
GameFile22=adamantiumarmor.esp
GameFile23=almalexia armor.esp
GameFile24=Animated Morrowind.esp
GameFile25=AreaEffectArrows.esp
GameFile26=AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp
GameFile27=Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
GameFile28=bcsounds.esp
GameFile29=Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
GameFile30=Better Skulls.ESP
GameFile31=BetterClothesForTB.esp
GameFile32=Better_Sounds.esp
GameFile33=Bloated Caves.esp
GameFile34=bones.esp
GameFile35=Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp
GameFile36=Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp
GameFile37=Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp
GameFile38=Clean MCFC_1.0.esp
GameFile39=correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
GameFile40=Dagger of Symmachus.esp
GameFile41=Deus Ex Machina - A Steampunkyish Mod.ESP
GameFile42=EBQ_Artifact.esp
GameFile43=entertainers.esp
GameFile44=ExcellentMagicSounds.esp
GameFile45=Golden Gold.esp
GameFile46=Graphic Herbalism Extra.esp
GameFile47=Graphic Herbalism.esp
GameFile48=guarskin_drum_replacer.esp
GameFile49=H.E.L.L.U.V.A. Complete Weapons.esp
GameFile50=imperial chain fix.esp
GameFile51=Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
GameFile52=LeFemmArmor.esp
GameFile53=LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp
GameFile54=Mashed Lists.esp
GameFile55=master_index.esp
GameFile56=MA_snowprincetomb_v3.esp
GameFile57=More Better Clothes.ESP
GameFile58=Morrowind Crafting 2-1.esp
GameFile59=Morrowind Crafting Equipment.esp
GameFile60=MW_Adv_Required.esp
GameFile61=Neo's Unique Creatures.esp
GameFile62=New Bodies - Mature.esp
GameFile63=New Veloth's Judgement 2.esp
GameFile64=New Voices.esp
GameFile65=NewBlood_MwTbBm1.1.esp
GameFile66=OR_Fang.esp
GameFile67=OR_ForkH.esp
GameFile68=OTR_Coast_Variety.esp
GameFile69=Particle Arrow Replacer.esp
GameFile70=Psy_IronMeshImprove_Uniques_BME.esp
GameFile71=Shieldfx.esp
GameFile72=Siege at Firemoth.esp
GameFile73=SirLuthor-Tools.esp
GameFile74=Sleepers, Awake!.esp
GameFile75=SNR_ThievesStep_Standart.esp
GameFile76=Statue Replacer - Normal.esp
GameFile77=Tel_Meskoa_Tel _Matouigius_1.2_EV.ESP
GameFile78=True_Lights_And_Darkness_1.0-NoDaylight.esp
GameFile79=UAR_Bloodworm_v2.esp
GameFile80=UAR_ChodalaBoots.esp
GameFile81=UAR_EbonySarano_v2.esp
GameFile82=UCArmoryUnique.ESP
GameFile83=UF_HortRobeF001.esp
GameFile84=Unique Banners and Signs.esp
GameFile85=Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp
GameFile86=UniqueFinery.esp
GameFile87=Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.esp
GameFile88=Vurt's Grazelands Trees.esp
GameFile89=WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP
GameFile90=Welcome to the Arena! v5.5.esp
GameFile91=Westly's Master Headpack X.esp
GameFile92=Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
GameFile93=Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
GameFile94=Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
GameFile95=Windows Glow.esp
GameFile96=Wizards' Islands Super Patch.esp

Leveled lists in wrye mash arnt needed for the game to work right, but if you dont use them, alot of content will get left out because content from one mod will get overridden by other mods and so forth. You will get different things appearing even if you dont use one, just not as much as you otherwise would.

For Leveled Lists, a patch is as necessary as it is in Oblivion. Morrowind uses more handplaced content, esp. when it comes to items, than Oblivion, so it might not be as obvious, but the way it works is basically the same.
I'd also recommend a merging objects (using SmartMerger or TESTool).

Noticed that your mashed lists is #54 in your load order. I use Wrye Mash v84, not the newer stand alone version. Its readme says the mashed list should be last in your load order. So you might want to check if your version also recommends that. Also, I noticed everything looks like it's in alphabetical order. There's a utility program called mlox that does a pretty good job of checking if the load order has problems and will give notes and recommend a different load order that you can use if you want to do so (optional).

Edit: typo

Yea, accept watch out, it will take entire blocks of the mod list and move them instead of just moving the single mod it wants. This can mess things up.

The Bashed Lists.esp should be last.

You can use other tools to manually move one, but mlox is designed to reshuffle your entire load order. It is a good tool. It checks for all known conflicts and load order suggestions and sets your load order accordingly.

Just curious, are we using bashed and mashed interchangeably? I've (don't hurt me) never played Oblivion so I'm unfamiliar with the programs and terms related to that.

If they are the same, then yes, Mashed Lists should be at the end of your load order and you should check the readmes of your mods to make sure the author hasn't included any instructions like "always load last" and "do not merge". BTW, moving mods around in your load order may screw up saved games, but it won't cause problems with new games.

Load order in Morrowind reduces conflicts between mods; mashedlists.esp merges all the items in identically named leveled lists so that everything in the list has an equal chance of showing up. As has been said, not using leveled lists only means that if two mods alter an identically named leveled list, only the items in the list from the mod that loads last will show up ingame.

I usually run it several times. First to get things in right order and then to doublecheck that there were no unexpected issues. BTW, don't forget that mlox lets you specify which order to load mods. It's a text file and has a specific name which escapes me atm

I made the presumption that, even though he said "bashed", that he meant "mashed". I guess the confusion is something to be expected for those who are both Morrowind and Oblivion players.

I dont play Oblivion(I have though) and even I know the difference between mash and bash. morrowind has mash and oblivion has bash, its not complicated.