So, I need someone to clear some things up for me. Now I am an elderscrolls fan and I know a hefty ammont of lore but Skyrim seems to have turned some things on its head and made me stop and go WUT?

Firstly I will present lore beofre skyrim then the skyrim version and you can see where I got lost.

Before Skyrim:

-Elves split into factions - settle in cyrodil, skyrim, morrowind etc....
- Dwemer and Dunmer co-exist in Morrowind and dwemer colony goes to hammerfell
- No dwemer in Skyrim (only on border with Morrowind)
- Aylieds enslave native humans.
- Men from atmora start their trickling down and setlling in skyrim
- The mass exodus from atmora
- Men from atmora settle en mass in skyrim
- Nords/Nedic/atmora guys and girls dont take to kindly to the Falmer. Relations are stressed due to cultural, economic, society well being and religious diffrences
- Men in Cyrodil starting to get issed with Aylieds
- Gods take pitty on man
- Kyne gives voice to the Nords (The Thu'um)
- Akatosh blesses Alissia with his blood
- Falmer wiped out by Nords
- Humans over throw Aylieds
- Dragon fires created
- Akavir invasion
- Founding of the Empire

Skyrim Lore:

NOW skyrim has told us that skyrim was rulled by dragons who evetually were destoryed by a Nord rebellion with co effort from the Akavir which led to the founding of the blades who protect the dragon born
THEN the Men forced the falmer out
THEN the cyrodil uprising and the blessing of Alissia.


As you can see my conffuzelness how does the dragon war fit into the current timeline? If it was before the forcing of the falmer out of skyrim? I put it before there because its the only logical place for it to fit.

If it was after the fall of the Aylieds and the Falmer then the Dragonborn already existed as it was the bloodline of the emperor as the Empire would have been established at this point. It wouldnt make sense fo the akavir invasion to then be a dragonborn coverup search. Akatosh didnt give the dragon blood untilll the amulet of kings/dragon fires/blessing of Alissia and fall of the aylieds so the DRagon DOMINATION and rule in skyrim doesnt fit into this time line. If the akavir founded the blades to find the dragon born who at this point in history should have been sat on a throne how does it all fit together? The dates dont seem to add up.

so please someone give me a timeline that makes sense - skyrims sent mine askew. I will at somepoint get my head round this!

so when was the akavir invasion? Before or after the fall of the aylieds?
When was the dragon rule? Before or after the Aylieds? - if its before then the akavir invasion must have been before but we know this isnt true. The dragon war couldnt ahve been after the fall of the Aylieds as the Dragon born already existed and akatosh had blessed the bloodline with the founding of the empire starting to take place and the uniting of man well established and the dragon fires being a solid fact.

HELP!

Akatosh can bless anyone that he wants with his "Dragonborn/blood" bless.

So both the Skyrim Dragonborn and Cyrodiliic Dragonblood can have coexisted.

I'm holding any idea that it was the false god of Time who created the Dragonborn. And considering most signs point to the DB as being an echo of Shor/Ysmir, I'm leaning it was Shor who did it, but had the credit stolen.

yes ok they could co exist - thats brilliant. But my question isnt really answered. I am on about the timeline of events. How could the Nords have been at war with the dragons in skyrim before they landed there, before they drove out the falmer and before the founding of the empire? The dragon born who co-existed as you so put it was the start of the dragon guard/ the blades who were the akavir invaders - who due to the dragon born, according to skyrim lore, then played apart of setting up the empire.

WHICH by the way was already undertaken by alissia the blessed - with dragon blood. Why would the akavir make war with Tamriel to find the dragon born in skyrim when they could have just declared their servitude to the emperor/empress? This is because the akavir invasion happened AFTER the Ayleids were thrown out, after the Falmer were thrown out. Not before - as it logically doenst fit the timeline.

We know about the events at Pale pass that happened after the fall of the Aylieds which happened after the fall of the falmer. The events/lore of skyrim would have it that hte akavir then went from pale pass to find the dragon born - kyne then gave the nords the shotu and akatosh blessed the dragonborn to which the Akavir then swore alligence to and helped slay the dragons becoming the blades - who were sworn to protect the empire because of the dragon blood.

This means that the dragons enslaving humans happened between the founding of the empire and the fall of the falmer - which makes no sense the current chronological line of events. Why did the dragon and the flamer never come to blows? Why only the Nords enslaved? How can the akavir invasion happen after the creation of the dragon fires and the first blessed drgon blood and then they go on to found the empire and protect the emperor who was a dragonborn AFTER the empire already existed and before?

I'm thinking the war with the Dragons was when Nords first arose in Skyrim. So before they ever went to Atmora in the first place. (after all their well-known coming to Skyrimlwas a 'return')
Maybe it's the devastation that even spurred their departure to Atmora

aye, is it like..

nords in skyrim.
nords defeat dragons.
nords go to atmora (because of elves?)
nords return when atmora becase inhospitable.
nords kick the falmer out.


this confused me heaps too. specially the akavir part... and falmer/dragon fighting must of been at different times. makes no sense to kill of falmer while been enslaved by dragons, tbh.

Yeah, I'm sure the Falmer and Dragon War were not concurrent.

The Dragon War happened before the proto-Nords left Tamriel for Atmora, in the Dawn or Merethic. The conflict with the Falmer occurred after the return in the First Era.

I think you can find pre-skyrim mentions of this story in the Anuad. It doesn't describe it in terms of a war between dragons and humans, but its vaugely similar.

Well, it was mer vs. men, but it's likely to have been the same.