Just a warning - This would provide spoilers as regaurds to Skyrim.

So it seems like my Dovahkin has a bit of negotiationing to do with the gods when he's kicked the bucket - It seems like he has been promised to enter Sovngarde after they die after defeating Alduin. However, As a werewolf they are also pledged to join Hircine in his eternal hunting grounds, but also will be gaurding Nocturnal's shrines as a Nightingale.

So, what will it be? I think Kodlak described wanting to be let into Sovngarde but was "dragged away" by Hircine, so perhaps Hircine will do the same to the dragonborne? Unless Nocternal has a better way of harvesting souls...

I find it amusing that after Skyrim's release, these new threads on "Afterlife" have gone sky high.

Edit: I can't answer that, but I am sure many lore masters will come and explain it better.

I'd imagine what happened to Kodlak would happen to you as well unless you were strong enough to resist Hircines aspect (on saying that i wonder if the souls of Sovngarde would come to your aid)

Your soul gets ripped into thirds.

We actually have nothing to reference for this, so it's anybody's guess. It's implied that Hircine's service is only temporary, in which case you might get to go to Sovngarde (or wherever) afterward.

Intreasting thought, but then again what would Nocturnal do in all of this? I'm not even sure on how Nocturnal would collect the soul, as all your told is that you're bound to guard thier shrine. Although in saying that I haven't finished the final quest in fear of losing the skeleton key.

The only lore answer we get is in http://imperial-library.info/content/skyrim-kodlaks-journal. Apparently the tie to Hircine is stronger than the tie to Shor, but can be overcome with effort. I've not actually finished the companions yet, so I don't know how it plays out in game.

Before my character dies, I like to imagine him destroying Nocturnal's shrine and caving it it (I don't like Nocturnal). Not to mention I still kept a witch head in my house to cure my werewolfness.


Don't forget that you have the soul of a dragon. People can say Talos was just a mortal but he wasn't. He had the soul of a dragon. I don't know how many dragonsouls Talos absorbed but not as many as the current hero.

It'll be a messy custody battle.

Kodlak was rescued by the Companions, no? Or, rather, sent to Sovngarde. I can't judge whether he was serving Hircine at that time (while he was in Ysgramor's tomb) or whether he was fighting to go to Sovngarde with that wolf. So, theoretically, if you had "friends" that knew you were split between such mandatory "duties," they could fight off the familiar that represents the power of that God/Daedra (in Hircine's case it was a wolf). As such, I can make a hypothesis that a soul might just be stuck in an intermediate state forever. That, or the Gods/Daedra you serve won't really care about you, considering they're Gods/Daedra, and just send you to Oblivion or something. Which would create another interesting topic: Becoming a Daedra.

Most of this is just from memory, and I'm sure to have missed a bunch of lore books and other material written on the topic, but I digress.

*SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!!!*



Kodlak tries to resist, but admits that he can't for much longer. Considering that the events in Skyrim seem to indicate a rather fast progress at that point, it was likely only a few days.. Then you cured him. You can cure yourself the same way you did Kodlak, only before dying. Kodlak does seem to suggest that there will be a battle between the heroes of Sovngarde and Hicrine's hunting fields soon enough to claim the souls of the rest of the companion leaders should they wish it. So it's obviously possible for souls themselves to move between realms. I'd imagine, that this would mean that a powerful enough soul could freely travel between the realms and go where he or she wants, though that last part is speculation. I should note here, that Kodlak is likely speculating as well, as he doesn't seem sure and he hasn't really been to the "afterlife" yet so I wonder how sure he can be...

During Molag Bal his quest you need to get a follower of Boethiah to swear his allegiance to Molag Bal and break his oath with Boethiah, I'd imagine thus that you go to the realm of the Lord you swear service too, and that you can break these oaths. A Daedric prince would then however probably still be able to claim you, unless you get a new Prince that wishes to have you in their realm. The two could fight it out then.

Speaking specifically about the Dovahkin (assuming all quests are done), the only oath he ever truly swears is to Nocturnal.
Hicrine is just a coincidental side effect of becoming a wolf, at least I don't remember actually swearing allegiance to him. You were told of the effects before hand though
Shor certainly also has a claim because you are a Shezzarine...

And then comes every random Daedric quest in the game, each or near each one of them have dialogue options where you can swear loyalty to the prince. Never once can you remove that oath, so it's quite possible that you are alligned to all Daedra and Shor... As to whom of them would have the strongest claim I don't know...

Given the oath I'd imagine Nocturnal, given the actions you take I'd imagine Shor... Hicrine and all other Daedric princes seem like outcasts to me...

Your thinking of Nocturnal's dealings with the Nightingales. It's basically stated that Hircine's hold on a soul can be broken, but only the service of the Nightingales is suggested to be inherently temporary.

But what if you're an Argonian? Argonians are returned to the Hist at death.

Desecrating the shrine of a Daedra does not make your contract with them void, it just makes them angry. Consequentially, they will probably enlist the help of another mortal to end your life and send you to their corresponding realm - to be tortured as punishment (ala The Only Cure).

And Tiber didn't absorb any Dragon souls; he allied himself with a dragon but that was it.

It seems that most factions will tie you to an afterlife in the DB you are bound to sithis, thieves guild nocturnal, companions hircine, and main quest shor, plus maybe your character may bind themselves in to a certain aedra or daedra depending on your roleplay.

Let's also keep in mind that we have no idea what happens to Dragonborn souls after death. We don't see any that we know of in Sovngarde, no Wulfharth (who, if you believe the Five Songs and Heresy (I don't, at least not wholly)), nobody else.

It is my personal belief that, since we clearly see that Dragon souls have special protections put on them, and the player has the soul OF a Dragon, that your soul is an exception to all the rules. Maybe that's why Bethesda was so keen on letting the player sell it. Because, in the long run, after he dies, Akatosh grabs it himself. I don't think Akatosh would let one of his precious children-souls go into the care of a Daedric Prince.

You're bound to the Nightingale tomb i think.

And I know he didn't. That's why I brought it up. The Dovahkiin's soul is bigger than Talo's at this point. It's all puffed up with other Dragon souls.

And, all these people that thinnk Talos is Lorkhan/Shor, I don't think so. Akatosh ripped out Lorkhan's heart. Talos was Dragonborn. Those 2 things don't really mesh. Unless Akatosh is apologizing or something.

Yes, but that does not mean the Stormcrown couldn't have mantled Shor later in his life. He may have been gifted by Aka at birth, but he may have changed his mind and chosen to walk the walk near the end of his life...

Nonsense. Talos' divine link to Lorkhan is indisputably established, and has nothing to do with his status as Dragonborn to our knowledge.
Even if it *did* matter that one of the members of the enantiomorph was Dragonborn, and IF that's really a gift from Akatosh (we can't honestly say we know how dragonborns work still), that doesn't preclude a link to Lorkhan/Shor. Aka and Lorkhan are crazy and confused and have serious role-issues. They're mad mirror brothers.

And what if I'm a Dunmer and my descendants try to use my soul to build a fence for their yard?