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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 7:08 pm

First off: Cults.

Cults, I'll have to be honest, I do not know much about. The Mythic Dawn is what I'll start with.

The Mythic Dawn worship the Daedric Prince of Destruction, Mehrunes Dagon, now, contrary to the the Prince of Destruction, they use Conjuration more than Destruction. Destruction could also be literal destruction, as evidenced by his Realm of Oblivion. Now, the Mythic Dawn are evidently a very sneaky and mysterious type of cult, the Assassination of Uriel Septim evidenced that. However, there are major holes in the offensive tactics of the Mythic Dawn, which is strange, considering their ultimate Leader, Mehrunes. They failed to Identify Martin, the last Dragonborn, and the last link to the Septim family. The Daedra marched in Kvatch, and destroyed it. The Mythic Dawn failed to recognize the great threat of the Champion of Cyrodiil and that foolishly lead to their downfall.

Now, their believes and practices are much different. You see, normally, I would think that the Mythic Dawn would follow Mehrunes Dagon through everything, but instead they follow Mankar Camoran, and they follow his book. Now, the Mythic Dawn, when killed in the service of Lord Dagon, become spirits in Camoran's Paradise, which confuses me. Why go to some loser Prophet, when you can service the almighty Lord Dagon? I'm gonna cut this post short, so I can be corrected, and I will be continuing conversation in later posts.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 3:46 pm

The Mythic Dawn worship the Daedric Prince of Destruction, Mehrunes Dagon, now, contrary to the the Prince of Destruction, they use Conjuration more than Destruction. Destruction could also be literal destruction, as evidenced by his Realm of Oblivion.
Yeah, he's the Daedric Prince of literal Destruction, not to the school of magicka. He has to destroy Tamriel (amongst other things?) because he was on the kindly Leaper Demon King and he hid things from Alduin when Alduin came to eat the world. Once Alduin found out, he changed him into Mehrunes Dagon and the only way he can change back to the Leaper Demon King is to destroy everything he hid.

They failed to Identify Martin, the last Dragonborn, and the last link to the Septim family. The Daedra marched in Kvatch, and destroyed it. The Mythic Dawn failed to recognize the great threat of the Champion of Cyrodiil and that foolishly lead to their downfall.
That's not true. The attack on Kvatch was because of Martin. They knew full well who he was, it was just very difficult to get to him. Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?

Now, their believes and practices are much different. You see, normally, I would think that the Mythic Dawn would follow Mehrunes Dagon through everything, but instead they follow Mankar Camoran, and they follow his book. Now, the Mythic Dawn, when killed in the service of Lord Dagon, become spirits in Camoran's Paradise, which confuses me. Why go to some loser Prophet, when you can service the almighty Lord Dagon? I'm gonna cut this post short, so I can be corrected, and I will be continuing conversation in later posts.
I imagine Dagon doesn't have much to tell his followers to do other than to destroy with wanton disregard. Then Mankar Camoran comes along, organizes everyone, preaches everything they want to hear, and gives them a solid goal: return Tamriel to the Mythic Era. Camoran's ideals don't really line up with Dagon's, but they use each other to get what they want.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:56 am

Yeah, he's the Daedric Prince of literal Destruction, not to the school of magicka. He has to destroy Tamriel (amongst other things?) because he was on the kindly Leaper Demon King and he hid things from Alduin when Alduin came to eat the world. Once Alduin found out, he changed him into Mehrunes Dagon and the only way he can change back to the Leaper Demon King is to destroy everything he hid.


That's not true. The attack on Kvatch was because of Martin. They knew full well who he was, it was just very difficult to get to him. Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?


I imagine Dagon doesn't have much to tell his followers to do other than to destroy with wanton disregard. Then Mankar Camoran comes along, organizes everyone, preaches everything they want to hear, and gives them a solid goal: return Tamriel to the Mythic Era. Camoran's ideals don't really line up with Dagon's, but they use each other to get what they want.


That's what I meant. I fail at living. :obliviongate:
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 1:10 pm

That's what I meant. I fail at living. :obliviongate:

No you don't. I also find it hard to follow all the daedric stuff. I wish there were a single book I could buy that just has everything you need to know about various TES topics like this, raiding UESP and other websites doesn't really help me learn stuff over the long run. Back in the D&D days everything was learned from books.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 3:10 pm

No you don't. I also find it hard to follow all the daedric stuff. I wish there were a single book I could buy that just has everything you need to know about various TES topics like this, raiding UESP and other websites doesn't really help me learn stuff over the long run. Back in the D&D days everything was learned from books.


Hmm... Maybe one of the Bethesda workers will eventually give a full overview of the Daedra.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 11:46 pm

Now, continuing the Daedric Topic.

There's not much more on the Mythic Dawn, so let us go directly to the Daedric Military.

The Daedric Military forces are various and many. The most organized groups known are possibly the Dark Seducers (or Mazken) and the Golden Saints (or Aureals). Now, the highest rank I have seen is the Dremora Lord. The lowest rank in the military is the Stunted Scamp, encountered at level 1. I'm tired, so, I'll finish this tomorrow. For now, the topic is Daedric Military. :bolt:
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:55 am

Now, continuing the Daedric Topic.

There's not much more on the Mythic Dawn, so let us go directly to the Daedric Military.

The Daedric Military forces are various and many. The most organized groups known are possibly the Dark Seducers (or Mazken) and the Golden Saints (or Aureals). Now, the highest rank I have seen is the Dremora Lord. The lowest rank in the military is the Stunted Scamp, encountered at level 1. I'm tired, so, I'll finish this tomorrow. For now, the topic is Daedric Military. :bolt:
I don't consider regular deadra, like scamps and other creatures, as part of the actual military. They are ( to me ) more like summoned support. Which I guess one could say that, THAT is part of the military.

The military ( to me ) is more or less just Dremora. The Dremord Lord is not the highest. DL are also know as Markynaz. There is one step higher, the Valkynaz ( I think that's how you spell it ). I think the lowest is a Crul, or Kruz or something.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 8:58 pm

The lore about Daedra is a bit confusing, as some things have changed from one Elder Scrolls game to another. Golden Saints belong to Sheogorath, and Dremora belong to Mehrunes Dagon. Hungers, which play only a minor role in Oblivion. belong to Boethiah. Malacath has Ogrim, which appear in Morrowind. Meridia has Aurorans, who appear in KOTN. In Previous Elder Scrolls games, Azura also had an "army" -- the Winged Twilights.

The Dark Seducers seem to have been derived from the Daedra Seducers who appear in Daggerfall, and who serve several different Daedric Princes.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 7:29 pm

The lore about Daedra is a bit confusing, as some things have changed from one Elder Scrolls game to another. Golden Saints belong to Sheogorath, and Dremora belong to Mehrunes Dagon. Hungers, which play only a minor role in Oblivion. belong to Boethiah. Malacath has Ogrim, which appear in Morrowind. Meridia has Aurorans, who appear in KOTN. In Previous Elder Scrolls games, Azura also had an "army" -- the Winged Twilights.

The Dark Seducers seem to have been derived from the Daedra Seducers who appear in Daggerfall, and who serve several different Daedric Princes.

Maybe the different Princes "borrow" other Princes' Daedra? That would make sense, as the Shivering Isles has Hungers, but they belong to Boethiah.
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