The Aldudagga, Fight Four (a fragment +)

Post » Mon May 07, 2012 2:21 pm

I actually think the Monomyth stands out like a sore thumb in Elder Scrolls lore. Bethesda's worldbuilding is the antithesis to Bioware's. Bioware make a world, put in a story in it and then give you an in-game wiki to access the objective reality of the mythos. The Elder Scrolls is all about shades of grey, Red and White-Gold. Every view, expressed by a character and by a book, is that, a view. The actual in-game events are deliberately ambiguous.

I find it interesting that this new-year MK stuff seems to contradict, or at least not sit easily with a lot of the prior Monomyth stuff. I'd like to think the Monomyth is a piece of Elder Scrolls mythos you can take or leave like any other. Skyrim's total rejection of exploring it was telling, I thought. I personally like my Elder Scrolls without simple Anu/Padhome dialectics. As far as I'm concerned the only people who get to decide what the objective reality of Mundus is are Gods and Ruling Kings.

The Aldudagga fights are so fun because they offer us a brand new way to completely disregard past lore. What has MK given us? The apollonian logic of the Monomyth, the decadent, bug-musk drenched metaphysics of the Star-Wounded East, the no-nonsense sass of Cyrus the Restless, and now the folksy charm of Skyrim children's tales, and the bizare kafkaesque sci-fi ruminations of Hatta and his kin. I much prefer the idea that any of these can override the simplicity of the Monomyth, and are not all (necessarily) consumed into it.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 6:59 pm

That said I do have to agree with djtlite in one regard; MK is really only one writer. There are lots and lots of other voices.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/tale-kieran is my favorite from Daggerfall.
I thought at the time it was very well written with multiple threads twining together into a greater moral.

It is very much un-MK more of a merlinesque fairytale story.
It is very much TES though. I always thought it a shame not to see it after Daggerfall.
But at least we still have Barenziah :)
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 8:33 pm

I say this as someone who loves MK almost much as Lady Nerevar.
I lol'd

Really guys, I'm not MK's personal fanclub president, his high priestess, or his female alternate identity. I recognize other authors, I like other authors. I recognize that he isn't the be-all, end-all of TES, and that his crazier stuff is almost certainly never going to be seen in game. It's just that we as a forum hang on him cause he posts here, and cause what he gives us is controversial.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 4:40 pm

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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:45 am

wasn't there also a dragon break at Rimmen?
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 2:14 pm

Actually from a scholarly standpoint, the fact that his writings are taken as fact here causes much stagnation in the lore community.
You actually have it quite backwards, his writings are one of the few things which allow us to avoid stagnation - going years between games causes stagnation, there's only so much you can anolyze. MK's texts give new information, thereby allowing an otherwise stagnating community to revitalize.

Once you've been here for more than a few months you'll begin to see patterns of legitimate stagnation, none of which correlate to MK's postings. We've seen the forums slow to a dead crawl, only to come back to life by the odd Loveletter or Intercept. Your argument is simply invalid.

I wonder why nobody ever complains about citing quotes by Tedders or Ken or Kurt. They used to be just as active as MK, which is where we get our precedent for dev post 'canon' - devs have a history of explaining things, MK is just the only one around still doing it.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:06 am

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Stop right there, MK boot-licking scum! Nobody breaks the lore on my watch!
I'm confiscating your stolen thought-waves. Now pay your fine or it's off to the archives.

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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 2:39 pm

Stop right there, MK boot-licking scum! Nobody breaks the lore on my watch!
I'm confiscating your stolen thought-waves. Now pay your fine or it's off to the archives.

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HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT!
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 3:51 pm

HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT!

We're watchiing you.....Ssssssscccuum.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 7:52 pm

Don't go fiddling on any locks, or there will be trouble.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:23 am

Fiddling on locks?
That sounds like an absurd and fascinating activity.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 6:02 pm

I don't recall using teleportation. And there I was. Alone. Naked.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:25 am

Not the thread for sling shots. This is the thread for discussion of this particular Aldudagga excerpt in general, and its eventual no-net completion. Keep an eye out for additions to the OP until the story is done.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:05 am

wasn't there also a dragon break at Rimmen?

Yeah, but I think the implications of that are better saved for the "Return False" thread.
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