I was suddenly curious about what happened to Magnus after he left nirn and tore the hole in the sky. I couldn't find anything except the idea that Alduin/akatosh turned Magnus into Mehrunes Dagon. In the older threads I've been reading, when someone asks about it they get linked to this http://www.imperial-library.info/content/seven-fights-aldudagga. But this only says that Dagon used to be a Leaper demon king.. what is that exactly, and how does that mean Magnus?

I read some replies of people here claiming that Dagon was actually "Maguns" for exception of the College of Winterhold quests.Since i don't know barely nothing about Magnus.i will ask:
if Dagon is really magnus wasn't that supposed to mean two entites and only 1 being?Like Jyggalag/Sheogorath or Alduin/Akatosh?

Something about jumping so high he tore holes in the sky as I recall. I'm sure someone else will be able to offer a better explanation...
Not really. More like Trinimac/Malacath.


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I dont believe anything from a former bethesda dev, that was posting into obscure text via forums can be considered cannon lore. besides after reading that link, i'm seriously disappointed anyone could take it seriously, its just so poorly written and half-baked, with people talking nonsense and saying holy crap this holy crap that, alduin swearing at people like hes a horrible baby sitter?

Poorly written? Michael Kirkbride is an excellent writer, responsible for a huge bulk of Elder Scrolls lore and some of the best in-game books. The odd way that piece is written is to make it look like a very old text that has been imperfectly translated. It's meant to be taken with a grain of salt, and while not technically canon it is still based on the same lore the games are based on.

So. its imperfectly translated, not to be taken seriously, and isn't technically canon lore... So why is it being discusses as if it was lore?

He seems to go out on a limb on topics canon lore has left open to interpitation. and Kirkbirdie did not write a huge bulk of Elder Scrolls, people act like he was the soul inventor of elder scrolls, several writers worked on it.
He hasn't been a dev since morrowind. What happens if Bethesda decides it want's to take the lore in a diffrent direction then what kirkbirdie wrote on the forums or in the imperial library? What then? He can write whatever he wants, he could write that vivic was originally a female guar who followed nerevar around because of a beastiality love triangle and manteled a human and then transformed into vivic. Doesn't mean its lore, unless its acknowledged by Bethesda because they own elder scrolls. Till then its all just
speculation.

He came up with the White Gold Concordat.

The OP asked a question specifically about his texts. Whether they are canon or not isn't really applicable to this topic.

MK made several important contributions to TES IV, such as the text of the voiceover by Mankar Camoran, and much of the content of the Knights of the Nine DLC. Some of the unofficial material he posted shortly before the release of TES V shows that he had insight into the content of the game that suggests he's still "in the loop" as far as development of the Elder Scrolls series goes, whatever his official role might be. Some content of the games refers to unofficial content from MK.

MK is a talented writer, whose work has done much to give the Elder Scrolls series its unique flavor and its sense of depth. And, he sometimes appears on this and other forums, interacts with the fans, and presents to us gifts of writing.

Other people have been citing it as a source of information and I want some other sources besides that. I didn't neccesarily want to discuss that text specifically, but so far its the only thing I could find with any info. I never claimed it was lore either, but that it is based on it.

And, you're wrong, he also wrote some things for Oblivion including part of the main quest. If you aren't interested in his work then fine but don't try to diminish his credits.

I think a lot of people respect him and enjoy his work because it at least shows a comprehension of Elder Scrolls lore, while some of the newer canon (mainly parts of skyrim's main plot) appear to be full-blown retcon.

And it's a shame none has answered them yet. So here goes:


By free-form association. Here is http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1091564-noticed-something-about-destruction-magic-icons-in-oblivion/page__p__15927192__hl__Mehrunes%20Dagon%20Magnus%20Leaper__fromsearch__1&#entry15927192. Keep in mind that it's not definitive. It could be correct, it might not be because sometimes a Leaper Demon is just a Leaper Demon.


You're making this rather complicated. There is no Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde going on here. The suggested transformation is simply change, from one into the other.

Why do people keep listening to Amadeus? The guy is obviously a troll. He starts threads positing theories that have nothing to do with lore established either in-game or out-of-game and willfully and admittedly ignores canon texts in favor of applying real-world physics and cosmology to the series, he states blatantly wrong information as fact (and has done so in this very thread), and his writing displays remarkably bad composition for someone of such namesake.

It's a shame this idea wasn't expounded in Skyrim.

I just want to throw my two cents in and say I also disagree with Amedeus