Skyrim - Magnus

Post » Mon May 07, 2012 10:46 pm

where i can read more about him ?
is there any book or NPC mention how Morokei managed to get the Staff of Magnus ?
"Dragon Priests were great wizards from all races that happened to become liches"' so it's possible that Morokei is Magnus ? lol
what's the Eye of Magnus exactly ? why the Monk from the Psijic Order keep telling me "The Eye of Magnus is not something the world prepared for" what possibly you could do with that eye ?
and why would i trust the mysterious Order to take the eye ?
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 5:54 pm

where i can read more about him ?
is there any book or NPC mention how Morokei managed to get the Staff of Magnus ?
"Dragon Priests were great wizards from all races that happened to become liches"' so it's possible that Morokei is Magnus ? lol
what's the Eye of Magnus exactly ? why the Monk from the Psijic Order keep telling me "The Eye of Magnus is not something the world prepared for" what possibly you could do with that eye ?
and why would i trust the mysterious Order to take the eye ?

http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Magnus_%28god%29#Magnus
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/famed-artifacts-tamriel So no Morokei is not Magnus..
I have no idea about what the eye is... Possibly it's the eye of Magnus... Why the Psijic order tells you that, I don't know either. Though if you see how the thing is handled later on in the quest might give a clue

Why would you trust them? Primarily because you have no choice in the matter. It's either allow them to take it, or be forced into allowing it. Simply take the road of the least resistance, it's easier for everyone.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:30 am

I wouldn't be surprised if the eye was the sigil stone thing (or whatever you call what the Heart of Lorkhan was to Red Mountain and the Amulet of Kings was to the White-Gold Tower) for the Throat of the World. Or something. Magicka generally is the part of Magnus that was torn off when he bailed on creation, but perhaps there was one central part of his body, literally his eye, left behind.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 2:11 pm

that a bit of info more than enough , i had no idea who's that guy lol
about the eye .. true i had no choice since it was already activated , but i was hoping they would explain what they gonna do with it , i spoke to the 3 monks before they disappear they were only thanking me .. sigh
i do hope we will see Psijic order in upcoming DLC
Thanks a lot guys
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 6:02 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if the eye was the sigil stone thing (or whatever you call what the Heart of Lorkhan was to Red Mountain and the Amulet of Kings was to the White-Gold Tower) for the Throat of the World. Or something. Magicka generally is the part of Magnus that was torn off when he bailed on creation, but perhaps there was one central part of his body, literally his eye, left behind.
No, magicka is energy spilling out of the Aetherius, not Magnus. Magnus only gets credit, because he did rip that giant hole in the sky called the sun. The only thing Magnus really accomplished was being the architect to the creation of Mundus.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 9:08 pm

No, magicka is energy spilling out of the Aetherius, not Magnus. Magnus only gets credit, because he did rip that giant hole in the sky called the sun. The only thing Magnus really accomplished was being the architect to the creation of Mundus.

And rip a giant hole in the sky
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:00 am

If you were wondering, Magnus tore the rip in the sky (making the Sun, sky is more of an arbitrary label to the line between Aetherius and Nirn) on his return to Aetherius (cbf'd to spell), while the stars are holes punched by other At'eda or lesser aedric beings (Confirmation on labelling of aedrics needed)
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 8:05 pm

(ya, you're good. I would've just said 'Aedra', but your words are fine too)

Wasn't the eye supposed to be http://www.imperial-library.info/content/kinmune
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:39 am

what's the Eye of Magnus exactly ? why the Monk from the Psijic Order keep telling me "The Eye of Magnus is not something the world prepared for" what possibly you could do with that eye ?
and why would i trust the mysterious Order to take the eye ?
You have to trust the Psijiics because they're elves! Certainly, all elves are smarter, better, and more trustworthy than you are or ever will be, and ALWAYS know what's best for Tamriel. All Elves. No Exception. Because they're elves. And you can't argue with elves.

Damn elves... Ysgramor had the right idea. SEND THEM ALL TO WUUTHRAD!
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 8:53 pm

(ya, you're good. I would've just said 'Aedra', but your words are fine too)

Wasn't the eye supposed to be http://www.imperial-library.info/content/kinmune

I remember suggesting that (I don't know if I was the first), but I feel like taking it back because the last paragraph suggests (to me, at least) that KINMUNE escaped around Tiber's reign.

She escaped the now-forgotten ruinings of Sarthaal to seek a refuge from which she could exact her wrath. When her sense-net picked up on multiple signals of new, raw, and unorthodox thu’umanics, Kinmune made straight for its nexus: the more or less newly-bannered Kuhlekainian Cyrod, still yet in its tenth anniversary remembrance of the Insult of some wrong-headed cave-totems.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 4:05 pm

Damn elves... Ysgramor had the right idea. SEND THEM ALL TO WUUTHRAD!
It is what I always say. Especially the altmer.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 8:34 pm

I remember suggesting that (I don't know if I was the first), but I feel like taking it back because the last paragraph suggests (to me, at least) that KINMUNE escaped around Tiber's reign.

But it mentions Eras passing while she's down there, so that could actually be it.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:06 am

If you were wondering, Magnus tore the rip in the sky (making the Sun, sky is more of an arbitrary label to the line between Aetherius and Nirn) on his return to Aetherius (cbf'd to spell), while the stars are holes punched by other At'eda or lesser aedric beings (Confirmation on labelling of aedrics needed)

They wouldn't be Aedra, since Aedra refer to the beings that are the progenitors of the elves and/or all mortal races; the word literally means "Our Ancestors". The beings that escaped/opted out of the creation of Mundus did not have a part in the creation of mortals because they were gone, and thus, are nobody's ancestors.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 4:24 pm

I still wonder what else escaped. So many stars...
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:59 am

No, magicka is energy spilling out of the Aetherius, not Magnus. Magnus only gets credit, because he did rip that giant hole in the sky called the sun. The only thing Magnus really accomplished was being the architect to the creation of Mundus.
Pretty sure there are two sources of magic within Mundus. When magnus fled didn't he leave some of himself behind? And what was left takes the shape of magic. "Magnus withdrew from the creation of the world at the last second, though it cost him dearly. What is left of him on the world is felt and controlled by mortals as magic"

Plus the stuff that comes from Aetherius due to the hole he made
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 1:55 pm

They wouldn't be Aedra, since Aedra refer to the beings that are the progenitors of the elves and/or all mortal races; the word literally means "Our Ancestors". The beings that escaped/opted out of the creation of Mundus did not have a part in the creation of mortals because they were gone, and thus, are nobody's ancestors.

They are called Magna Ge, those that when they realised the scope of the Project refused to sacrifice (parts of) themselves and followed Magnus to Aetherius.

Interestingly enough Meridia is an ex Magna Ge, banished from Aetherius for 'consorting with illicit spirits'.

The Eye being Kinmune I find a fascinating idea. I really want to believe it and I hope someone can make it plausible because the mages questline as is is a bit.. underwhelming.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 4:09 am

They are called Magna Ge, those that when they realised the scope of the Project refused to sacrifice (parts of) themselves and followed Magnus to Aetherius.

Interestingly enough Meridia is an ex Magna Ge, banished from Aetherius for 'consorting with illicit spirits'.
It's "illicit spectra" not spirits.

The Eye being Kinmune I find a fascinating idea. I really want to believe it and I hope someone can make it plausible because the mages questline as is is a bit.. underwhelming.
Perhaps KINMUNE-eye was in sleep mode, and Ancano's machinations triggered anomalies in KINMUNE's [insert cool sounding alternative to circuits]. These anomalies resulted in unscheduled activations of KINMUNE's various mechanisms, without triggering the deactivation of sleep mode. With the sleep mode still in place, KINMUNE never woke up despite her body going rampant.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 11:11 pm

It's "illicit spectra" not spirits.


Perhaps KINMUNE-eye was in sleep mode, and Ancano's machinations triggered anomalies in KINMUNE's [insert cool sounding alternative to circuits]. These anomalies resulted in unscheduled activations of KINMUNE's various mechanisms, without triggering the deactivation of sleep mode. With the sleep mode still in place, KINMUNE never woke up despite her body going rampant.

Oh ok, Illicit spectra :)

That explanation of Kinmune = Eye could work, though I feel it needs some refining.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 5:08 pm

That explanation of Kinmune = Eye could work, though I feel it needs some refining.
That would require spending more than a minute on it.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:30 am

I really love the Eye of Magnus is Kinmune theory, and I want it to be true, but it doesn't explain what the connection is to the Staff of Magnus. If we examine the Staff in Skyrim, the orb bears a clear resemblance to the Eye of Magnus. Just a coincidence and a design choice? Just the Staff manifesting itself in a way to encourage mortals to use it to contain Kinmune at this moment in time? Or just something to suggest that the Eye of Magnus is not Kinmune at all, and rather something different?
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 4:13 pm

She escaped the now-forgotten ruinings of Sarthaal to seek a refuge from which she could exact her wrath. When her sense-net picked up on multiple signals of new, raw, and unorthodox thu’umanics, Kinmune made straight for its nexus: the more or less newly-bannered Kuhlekainian Cyrod, still yet in its tenth anniversary remembrance of the Insult of some wrong-headed cave-totems.

- http://www.imperial-library.info/content/kinmune

This seems to imply that Kinmune escaped Sarthaal when Talos still had vocal cords to flex. Granted, I've no idea to what 'tenth anniversary remembrance of the Insult of some wrong-headed cave-totems' refers, and even in 4E Cyrodiil would be newly bannered to Kinmune, so it's still possible that this could refer to Skyrim's Dovahkiin's thu'um and not that of Talos.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 3:39 pm

That explanation of Kinmune = Eye could work, though I feel it needs some refining.
I have trouble seeing it. Kinmune was trapped deep under Sarthaal, in the Dwemer ruins under the city. The Eye of Magnus being found in Sarthaal seems to be a bit of a tenuous connection, particularly since it's not (I don't think) in the Dwemer ruins. She was active the whole time too, learning magic from the sounds of the steam machines. She then broke free, and went for Tiber Septim upon detecting his thu'um.

The text also mentions that her being transported to the past "drove her insane", and later became "one of the Arena’s most feared villains". I'd like to say Kinmune is the Underking. Both of them, perhaps. Her connection with Tiber Septim is apparent, and insanity is a typical trait of Akatosh. Both Tiber Septim and Zurin Arctus further this connection with Lorkhan and Akaotsh, through the enatiomorph (sp?). The Underking was also one of Tamriel's big bad guys in his day, wasn't he?

Granted, I've no idea to what 'tenth anniversary remembrance of the Insult of some wrong-headed cave-totems' refers
Tenth anniversary of 9/11, I'd wager.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 2:03 pm

erm.. Tiber Septim is Talos ?
Talos is god or man ? o.O
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 5:20 pm

erm.. Tiber Septim is Talos ?
Talos is god or man ? o.O
yes he was/is all these things.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:52 am

erm.. Tiber Septim is Talos ?
Talos is god or man ? o.O

All the in game lore is muddled, but basically, Tiber Septim was a man who, after he died, apparently became the god Talos. This was actually a common practice with Roman Emperors, though they achieved apotheosis through a vote of the Senate and was more of a political tool than a deeply-held religious belief (though not always). The cult of Romulus might be a better comparison.
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