The Nerevarine's return: A Speculation thread

Post » Tue May 08, 2012 4:30 am

The metaphysics of the Heart are not fully understood, and if they were the only people privy to such information would have been Kagrenac and the Dwemer, and they too are gone. Who knows to what extent the effects the Heart had on Dagoth Ur, and by the time the Nerevarine defeated him and broke the enchantments on the Heart, Dagoth Ur hadn't become more or less bound to it through some Shezzarite filament. His body may have been killed, but when after the Heart was released and he was struck down, his soul could have been pulled from Mundus, keelhauled through all mortal and immortal creation as the Heart spun around the Wheel like a ball on a roulette wheel, Dagoth Ur helpless to separate himself from it.

If Dagoth Ur ever returns, it will be with reemergence of the Heart on Nirn, and it is doubtful he will still be Dagoth Ur at all. Could his ego survive the Dreamsleeve and the Waters of Oblivion? Or will his face join the already numerous hydra of Lorkhan?
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 5:37 pm

RUMORED, rumors =/= fact.

They made it only a rumor so you can belive it or not depending on if you killed Vivec yourself or not.

Also The Nerevarine's trip to Akavir is also a RUMOR, but did he actually go? That is what people think, but ES people are increadibly stupid and untrustworthy.
It doesn't matter. They gave us the ability to do those things and to make the character our own. Anything at all that contradicts that is a giant kick in the face.

The Nerevarine is immortal, and mine certainly would not have allowed the Argonians to invade. Had Vivec been killed, as he was in my game, the Archcanon would have found out eventually and known that the Ministry of Truth was going to fall at any moment (even if he didn't truly die, his corpse was still there as evidence -- any lesser being would simply have assumed that, yes, Vivec was dead). The Dunmer, as mentioned in an interview with one of them, also have the ability to read the winds and foresee an eruption of Red Mountain. There, two disasters averted with minimal deaths. My Nerevarine was also head of House Telvanni, and would have insisted (forcefully, if need be) that the powerful wizard members help him hold back the Argonians.

There you go. All averted. Morrowind belongs to the Dunmer. Yay. However, that is not the case. Bethesda doesn't care how we play the games they create. They move ahead with the lore they wish to write, regardless of how it affects us.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:53 am

The Nerevarine is immortal, and mine certainly would not have allowed the Argonians to invade.
So you would've fought and died against the Argonian horde. You were ageless, not immortal. A sharp, pointy thing going through your body would take you down just as fast as anyone else.

The Nerevarine was never portrayed to be a god that can stand up to anything fate throws their way.

And the Dunmer (some of them, anyway) did know Lie Rock was going to be a problem. That's why they built the Ingenium.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 2:39 pm

So you would've fought and died against the Argonian horde. You were ageless, not immortal. A sharp, pointy thing going through your body would take you down just as fast as anyone else.

The Nerevarine was never portrayed to be a god that can stand up to anything fate throws their way.

And the Dunmer (some of them, anyway) did know Lie Rock was going to be a problem. That's why they built the Ingenium.
You aren't a god, but you defeat an immensely powerful sorcerer (Dagoth Ur), avoid a divine sorcerer (Dagoth Ur when trying to break the enchantments on the heart, etc..), own immensely powerful artifacts, and have basically talked a majority of the people in Morrowind into accepting you as the Nerevarine with help from Moon-and-Star, another powerful artifact in its own right.

The Argonian armies were probably fairly large, but nothing on the scale that closed off the Oblivion gates. The Hist were never mentioned to have sent the Argonians to Morrowind (they seem to be the self-preservation type, really). Would it have been difficult to hold them off? Sure. Would it have been impossible? No, not at all.

Yeah, that's my point. They knew it was going to happen, so it isn't like it should have been able to take out a large chunk of the population. Even with the Ingenium, I doubt people would have continued on as normal. The same goes for Red Mountain. The Dunmer likely knew it was going to erupt and were prepared for it. The Argonian invasion sure was a kick in the side, but I still don't see it as being something the people of Morrowind couldn't have handled, especially with the reincarnation of Nerevar leading them (same guy who led the Chimer and Dwemer to victory over the Nord invaders).
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 4:29 am

You aren't a god, but you defeat an immensely powerful sorcerer (Dagoth Ur), avoid a divine sorcerer (Dagoth Ur when trying to break the enchantments on the heart, etc..)
One-on-one, and your assault on the heart was a surprise. He didn't expect you to go after it and disenchant it (which kinda calls into question how much of his power he actually threw at you, if he didn't expect his immortality to be at risk).

own immensely powerful artifacts
Some of which being Daedric artifacts that can be taken away on a whim. A number of them had already moved by the time of Oblivion.

Yeah, that's my point. They knew it was going to happen, so it isn't like it should have been able to take out a large chunk of the population.
Do we know how many Dunmer were actually killed by the MoT and eruption? I'd expect the Oblivion Crisis and the surprise Argonian invasion to have taken out a notable portion of the population, but I don't remember reading anywhere how many died in comparison to Red Year. The big thing was that they were forced out of Morrowind and into Skyrim and Solstheim (mainly Solstheim).

Also, it could very well be that they prepared for the MoT impact, and were caught off guard by its force, or by it causing Red Mountain to erupt.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:30 am

Sounds kind of fanbo-...I mean fanatical. Not going to happen though. Bethesda aren't going to take control of a players character away from them ike that.

They took control of the Champion from us. They could do the same, the Nerevarine is the REINCARNATION of Nerevar, so we could morph into Nerevar so even if we had an ARgonian or Nord, we become a Dunmer again.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 5:34 pm

They took control of the Champion from us. They could do the same, the Nerevarine is the REINCARNATION of Nerevar, so we could morph into Nerevar so even if we had an ARgonian or Nord, we become a Dunmer again.
There's a difference between mantling a Daedric Prince and taking his power, and being the reincarnation of a mortal. Besides, Nerevar was a Chimer.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 4:19 am

Remember that the Nerevarine is the Ruling King mentioned in the Sermons. He might be more than mortal at this point.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:17 am

Guess what. I realized a long time ago after reading mk's 36 lessons that an old bone of the earth came up and spoke to(while I was in my private simulacrum) and he took a picture of afanboyAnd folded itself like 20 times until became akin to Lon Lon milk. And I drank it and realized. "sh [censored] it makes no f [censored] sense for nerevar to be incarnated as a lizard or a cat" I doubt nerevar will ever come back. He's probably chilled on some beach in akavir or aetherius thinking "damn. Look what ive done to the lore forums. Thanks Todd."
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 4:39 pm

He's probably chilled on some beach in akavir or aetherius thinking "damn. Look what ive done to the lore forums. Thanks Todd."

Nerevar is an entirely meta-meta-fictional character. Not only does he see the Godhead, but he sees the creators and commentators of the concept of the Godhead.

This is how he could beat Vivec.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 5:04 pm

Whoa whoa dagoth ur might still be alive? where u hear that? hes my favorite villain so i hope its true.

The way I chose to play Morrowind, he is indeed still alive. And not only did Dagoth Ur survive...he knocked up my character.

I guess it's true...You're never too old. ;)
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 1:22 am

The way I chose to play Morrowind, he is indeed still alive. And not only did Dagoth Ur survive...he knocked up my character.

I guess it's true...You're never too old. :wink:
wtf...

Now if anyone was doing any knocking up it would have been Vehk, and even Vehk knew that there was a time and place for everything.

Dagoth Ur though... ugh... I smell a "special" fanfic coming. I'm not being figurative. I can literally smell it.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 1:36 am

Not ganna happen. However ya handle ya PC is different from mines. Remain ambiguous and no other player's foot would be step at.

It bait flames.
Its possilbe if the Nerevarine would return to his original Chimer form with his original memories as Nerevar.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:07 am

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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 9:13 pm

The Nerevarine discovered a way to become immortal in Akavir and returned to Tamriel. On his journey to Cyrodiil, the incarnation of Nerevar got into trouble in an inn and went to jail just in time to help Martin Septim banish Meruhnes Dagon. After the big victory celebration, he travelled extremely drunk to the north (the journey took about two centuries because he forgot all his levitation spells after Akavir). On the southern border of Skyrim, he was captured again by Imperial forces, since they do really hate all those world saving adventurer fellas, and was brought to Helgen. After several months bashing dragons he finally defeated Alduin and absorbed enough dragon souls to be more powerful than Anu and Padomay together and went south again. Since he was pretty much an alcoholic by now, he couldn't miss the next victory party and got smashed again. Long story short, he got caught again by Imperials and swore to himself, that he will go back in time and kill the guy who invented law enforcment. But since all those prison tattoos ate away all his money, he could not afford the salary of the mysterious time alteration master Emmett Brown and died of boredom.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 11:45 pm

The Nerevarine discovered a way to become immortal in Akavir and returned to Tamriel.
The Nerevarine is already immortal. He's a living, breathing, corpus monster. As such, he does not age, nor succumb to disease.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 5:24 pm

Tyrannical warlord? Not really Nerevar's spitting image if you ask me. He was more of an advocate of peace in life.
He could have been who ever the hell you wanted dude. Mine was a bit of a badass but still had mercy towords the innocent.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:34 am

He could have been who ever the hell you wanted dude. Mine was a bit of a badass but still had mercy towords the innocent.
We're talking about different people. I wasn't referring to the player character.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:08 am

Well, when we see a game on Akavir, we'll find out what he accomplished. For all we know, he landed on Akavir and was ripped apart. Maybe he established some kind of foothold there (unlikely, we would hear much more about it), and maybe his ship was devoured by a storm.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 4:11 am

wtf...

Now if anyone was doing any knocking up it would have been Vehk, and even Vehk knew that there was a time and place for everything.

Dagoth Ur though... ugh... I smell a "special" fanfic coming. I'm not being figurative. I can literally smell it.


Because it smells like *h**?
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 10:39 pm

The Nerevarine discovered a way to become immortal in Akavir and returned to Tamriel. On his journey to Cyrodiil, the incarnation of Nerevar got into trouble in an inn and went to jail just in time to help Martin Septim banish Meruhnes Dagon. After the big victory celebration, he travelled extremely drunk to the north (the journey took about two centuries because he forgot all his levitation spells after Akavir). On the southern border of Skyrim, he was captured again by Imperial forces, since they do really hate all those world saving adventurer fellas, and was brought to Helgen. After several months bashing dragons he finally defeated Alduin and absorbed enough dragon souls to be more powerful than Anu and Padomay together and went south again. Since he was pretty much an alcoholic by now, he couldn't miss the next victory party and got smashed again. Long story short, he got caught again by Imperials and swore to himself, that he will go back in time and kill the guy who invented law enforcment. But since all those prison tattoos ate away all his money, he could not afford the salary of the mysterious time alteration master Emmett Brown and died of boredom.

This does sound likely. You don't pay for prison tattoos though. That's how I knew you were lying.
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