Discussion: The cause of the disapperance of Masser and Secu

Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:30 am

I'm very sorry. I haven't quite understood this whole ''khajiit and the mane being a Tower''-thing. Could anyone fill me in, please?
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Tai Scott
 
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 7:19 pm

If the Khajiit are a stone and the moons are a tower, then isn't it possible that a civil war between the Khajiit or the death of the Mane (I believe he died during this time) caused the moons to dissapear? And only when peace was made again and a new mane was installed did peace return and with that the moons?

That's my theory at least, why in heavens name they would thank the Altmer for returning the moons then is beyond me, but still.
The Mane was assassinated before Infernal City, so you've got about 30-40 years between death of the Mane, the splitting into city-states, and this alleged civil war. Granted, when not unified by a singular ruler, the chance of warring of any kind is greater, especially since Anequina and Pellitine have had history of conflicts in the past. But then again, on the other other hand, Khajiit have warred in the past and the moons have not gone away...

Edit: I need to read the whole topic before dredging up old points.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 4:37 pm

I just don't see how the Thalmor would be able to create any spell powerful enough to do something like this. To hide two moons from all in, at least, Tamriel would require more magic at play then I have ever seen before. Also if the moons were to dissapear and the Khajiit would still be born in their regular cycles, don't you think they would start to wonder if a. the moons are really gone? or b. if the moons are trully as important as they previously believed?
"Also if the moons were to dissapear and the Khajiit would still be born in their regular cycles" That's why I mentioned Alteration. Maybe they removed the effects from Nirn as well. With that said it's pure speculation because we don't know what happened to the Khajiit during that time.

"would require more magic at play then I have ever seen before" Yes it would, but that doesn't mean that it's impossible. Just very hard. Remember magic is the only thing in creation that is limitless.

On the other hand it's possible that the Thalmor don't know why or how it happened and simply took advantage of the situation like they did the Oblivion Crises. It's all speculation for the time being.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:35 am

I'm very sorry. I haven't quite understood this whole ''khajiit and the mane being a Tower''-thing. Could anyone fill me in, please?

If you read http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nu-mantia-intercept, it goes into some detail about the towers and their purpose. And while the khajiit's are not mentioned, they do exhibit tower-like qualities. When the moons fail, they try to stablize them for example. The Mane acts as the stone for the tower.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:21 am

If you read http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nu-mantia-intercept, it goes into some detail about the towers and their purpose. And while the khajiit's are not mentioned, they do exhibit tower-like qualities. When the moons fail, they try to stablize them for example. The Mane acts as the stone for the tower.

Thank you very much. That was really helpful. :happy:

But what do you mean by ''when the moons fail, they try to stabilize them''? Are you talking about the Khajiit? I thought we knew almost nothing about The Void Nights?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 1:14 am

If you read http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nu-mantia-intercept, it goes into some detail about the towers and their purpose. And while the khajiit's are not mentioned, they do exhibit tower-like qualities. When the moons fail, they try to stablize them for example. The Mane acts as the stone for the tower.

Towers are physical echoes of Ada-Mantia, being one big monolithic thing instead of millions of tiny things. Besides, if you call Khajiit a Tower for their part in stabilizing Nirn, you may as well call Talos a Tower.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 4:41 am

Towers are physical echoes of Ada-Mantia, being one big monolithic thing instead of millions of tiny things. Besides, if you call Khajiit a Tower for their part in stabilizing Nirn, you may as well call Talos a Tower.
They do not stabilize Nirn per say, but Masser and Secunda. They are a metaphysical tower in this sense with the Mane acting as the stone. There was some discussion about it http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1330338-let-me-get-this-straight/page.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 11:51 pm

They do not stabilize Nirn per say, but Masser and Secunda. They are a metaphysical tower in this sense with the Mane acting as the stone. There was some discussion about it http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1330338-let-me-get-this-straight/page.
Still, Towers are both physical and metaphysical echoes. Nu-Mantia mentioned this.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 10:38 pm

I'm just saying that there are some parallels with khajiit's and towers. Also, according to PGE2, they climbed each other to reach the moons :P
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 8:14 pm

Just throwing it out there...

What about the Sload? Could they have had something to do with it?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:48 am

Just throwing it out there...

What about the Sload? Could they have had something to do with it?

Personally I'd prefer to not make things even more unknown then they already are and throwing in a group we know next to nothing about, especially in the last few hundred years just makes things even more complicated.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 4:07 pm

*Sload do Something*

*Thalmor enslaves the Sload*

*Sload reverse said Something*

*Thalmor take credit*
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