Game freezes after loading save, all new saves affected afte : IV

» Tue May 08, 2012 11:49 am

I have the most bizarre issue ever. Basicly, I loaded a save and it would just freeze, music would keep playing and it wasn't a normal CTD. Nothing else happened and in Task Manager it said "Not responding" and the memory would shoot up like crazy to over 1GB instantly.

But the strange part, is that the only saves that aren't affected are the ones that are in a cave that I was in recently. I have tested re-saving inside the cave, no problem loading those saves. But if I save outside the cave, when I load it freezes.

I can play for as long as I want after exiting the cave, it won't freeze. But as soon as I try to load a save after exiting the cave, it freezes. And other interiors don't make a difference, I went into other houses and saved, it still freezes.

I have NOT changed anything in my load order and this was not happening before, this only started after this one cave (doing the Fighter's Guild quest Information Gathering) but it does not matter if I kill, talk to or just ignore the NPC I need for the quest.

Active Mod Files:

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obse.log

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OBSE: initialize (version = 20.6 010201A0)
oblivion root = D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\
plugin directory = D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\algohol.dll
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RegisterCommand QInterpolate (2319)
plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\algohol.dll (00000001 algohol 00000000) loaded correctly
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\AVUncapper.dll
plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\AVUncapper.dll (00000001 AVUncapper 01000100) loaded correctly
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\AVUncapper_CS.dll
plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\AVUncapper_CS.dll (00000001 AVUncapper_CS 01000100) reported as incompatible during query
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\CustomSpellIcons.dll
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plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\CustomSpellIcons.dll (00000001 CustomSpellIcons 00000001) loaded correctly
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\DruidModCustomSpellIcons.dll
SetOpcodeBase 000025F0
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RegisterCommand ClearSpellIcon (25F3)
plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\DruidModCustomSpellIcons.dll (00000001 CustomSpellIcons 00000001) loaded correctly
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\Elys_USV.dll
plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\Elys_USV.dll (00000001 Elys_USV 0000005D) loaded correctly
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\EnhancedMusicControl.dll
SetOpcodeBase 000024C0
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plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\EnhancedMusicControl.dll (00000001 enhanced_music_control 00000048) loaded correctly
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\FastExit2.dll
plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\FastExit2.dll (00000001 FastExit 00000002) loaded correctly
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\NifSE.dll
SetOpcodeBase 000024F0
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plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\NifSE.dll (00000002 NifSE 000101FF) loaded correctly
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBGEv2.dll
SetOpcodeBase 00002100
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plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBGEv2.dll (00000002 OBGEv2 00000002) loaded correctly
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_Hud.dll
SetOpcodeBase 00002330
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RegisterCommand RunBatString (23BE)
RegisterCommand Halt (23BF)
RegisterCommand RefToLong (23C0)
RegisterCommand LongToRef (23C1)
RegisterCommand FindFirstFile (23C2)
RegisterCommand FindNextFile (23C3)
RegisterCommand GetFileSize (23C4)
RegisterCommand NewHudS (23C5)
RegisterCommand DelHudS (23C6)
RegisterCommand ScreenInfo (23C7)
RegisterCommand HudS_X (23C8)
RegisterCommand HudS_SclX (23C9)
RegisterCommand HudS_Show (23CA)
RegisterCommand HudS_Opac (23CB)
RegisterCommand HudS_Align (23CC)
RegisterCommand AutoSclHudS (23CD)
RegisterCommand HudS_Y (23CE)
RegisterCommand HudSEsp (23CF)
RegisterCommand HudSProtect (23D0)
RegisterCommand HudsInfo (23D1)
RegisterCommand DelAllHudSs (23D2)
RegisterCommand HudS_L (23D3)
RegisterCommand rcsc (23D4)
RegisterCommand HudS_SclY (23D5)
RegisterCommand NewHudT (23D6)
RegisterCommand DelHudT (23D7)
RegisterCommand HudT_X (23D8)
RegisterCommand HudT_SclX (23D9)
RegisterCommand HudT_Show (23DA)
RegisterCommand HudT_Opac (23DB)
RegisterCommand HudT_Align (23DC)
RegisterCommand AutoSclHudT (23DD)
RegisterCommand HudT_Y (23DE)
RegisterCommand HudTEsp (23DF)
RegisterCommand HudTProtect (23E0)
RegisterCommand HudTInfo (23E1)
RegisterCommand DelAllHudTs (23E2)
RegisterCommand HudT_L (23E3)
RegisterCommand HudT_SclY (23E4)
RegisterCommand PauseBox (23E5)
RegisterCommand KillMenu (23E6)
RegisterCommand SetHudT (23E7)
RegisterCommand HudT_Text (23E8)
RegisterCommand HudS_Tex (23E9)
RegisterCommand SanString (23EA)
RegisterCommand IsHUDEnabled (23EB)
RegisterCommand IsPluggyDataReset (23EC)
RegisterCommand FromOBSEString (23ED)
RegisterCommand ToOBSEString (23EE)
RegisterCommand HudT_Font (23EF)
SetOpcodeBase 000023FF
RegisterCommand PlgySpcl (23FF)
plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_Hud.dll (00000001 OBSE_Elys_Pluggy 00000084) loaded correctly
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue.dll
SetOpcodeBase 000025D0
RegisterCommand mqSetMessageBoxSource (25D0)
RegisterCommand mqGetSelectedClass (25D1)
RegisterCommand mqGetHighlightedClass (25D2)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuTileChildren (25D3)
RegisterCommand mqGetEnchMenuBaseItem (25D4)
RegisterCommand mqGetMapMarkers (25D5)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildFloatValue (25D6)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildStringValue (25D7)
RegisterCommand mqSetMenuChildFloatValue (25D8)
RegisterCommand mqSetMenuChildStringValue (25D9)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildHasTrait (25DA)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildName (25DB)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildCount (25DC)
RegisterCommand mqCreateMenuFloatValue (25DD)
RegisterCommand mqCreateMenuStringValue (25DE)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveFloatValue (25DF)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveStringValue (25E0)
RegisterCommand mqSetMenuActiveFloatValue (25E1)
RegisterCommand mqSetMenuActiveStringValue (25E2)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveChildIndex (25E3)
RegisterCommand InsertXML (25E4)
RegisterCommand mqGetCurrentQuests (25E5)
RegisterCommand mqGetCompletedQuests (25E6)
RegisterCommand mqGetActiveQuest (25E7)
RegisterCommand mqSetActiveQuest (25E8)
RegisterCommand mqGetQuestCompleted (25E9)
RegisterCommand mqUncompleteQuest (25EA)
RegisterCommand mqGetActiveQuestTargets (25EB)
RegisterCommand InsertXMLTemplate (25EC)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuGlobalStringValue (25ED)
RegisterCommand mqSetMenuGlobalStringValue (25EE)
SetOpcodeBase 000026B0
RegisterCommand mqSetMenuGlobalFloatValue (26B0)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuGlobalFloatValue (26B1)
RegisterCommand ShowGenericMenu (26B2)
RegisterCommand ShowMagicPopupMenu (26B3)
RegisterCommand ShowTrainingMenu (26B4)
RegisterCommand GetGenericButtonPressed (26B5)
RegisterCommand SetMenuEventHandler (26B6)
RegisterCommand RemoveMenuEventHandler (26B7)
RegisterCommand GetMenuEventType (26B8)
RegisterCommand GetFontLoaded (26B9)
RegisterCommand UpdateLocalMap (26BA)
RegisterCommand GetLocalMapSeen (26BB)
RegisterCommand GetWorldMapData (26BC)
RegisterCommand IsTextEditInUse (26BD)
RegisterCommand GetMousePos (26BE)
RegisterCommand SetWorldMapData (26BF)
RegisterCommand GetWorldMapDoorway (26C0)
RegisterCommand GetTextEditString (26C1)
RegisterCommand GetMousePosInText (26C2)
plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue.dll (00000002 OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue 00000009) loaded correctly
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\refstuff_plugin.dll
SetOpcodeBase 00002350
RegisterCommand DropNthItems (2350)
RegisterCommand GiveNthItems (2351)
RegisterCommand GetItemsCount (2352)
RegisterCommand GetNthItemsCount (2353)
RegisterCommand GetItemsChangedCount (2354)
RegisterCommand GetCount (2355)
RegisterCommand SetCount (2356)
RegisterCommand ModCount (2357)
RegisterCommand DestroyRef (2358)
RegisterCommand DestroyClonedForm (2359)
SetOpcodeBase 0000236E
RegisterCommand DumpItem (236E)
RegisterCommand DumpContainer (236F)
plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\refstuff_plugin.dll (00000001 refstuff 00000002) loaded correctly
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll
plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll (00000001 sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover 00004100) loaded correctly
checking plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\weOCPS.dll
plugin D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\weOCPS.dll (00000001 weOCPS 01328DD8) loaded correctly
patched
loading from C:\Users\empty\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 1770 - Maymuna - The Great Forest, Level 7, Playing Time 22.56.58.obse
Reading mod list from co-save
Loading strings
Loading array variables
plugin has data in save file but no handler
plugin has data in save file but no handler
plugin has data in save file but no handler
plugin has data in save file but no handler
plugin has data in save file but no handler
DoLoadGameHook: C:\Users\empty\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 1770 - Maymuna - The Great Forest, Level 7, Playing Time 22.56.58.ess
loading from C:\Users\empty\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 1770 - Maymuna - The Great Forest, Level 7, Playing Time 22.56.58.obse
plugin has data in save file but no handler
plugin did not read all of its data (at 00000000000945A2 expected 0000000000097009)

OBGEv2.log

Spoiler

Hooked: kernel32.dll
Hooked: kernel32.dll
Hooked: user32.dll
Hooked: d3dx9_27.dll
Hooked: d3dx9_43.dll
Detoured GetRenderedSurfaceParameters(); succeeded
Replacing the built-in shaders.
Detoured GetShaderBinary(); succeeded
Detoured LoadTextureFile(); succeeded
Init: D3D9.DLL queried.
Init: D3D9.DLL loaded.
Init: Took over Direct3DCreate9.
OD3D9: Driver queried from 0x02ec76d7
OD3D9: Driver 0x03928f30 constructed from 0x02ec7643 (1 drivers available)
OD3D9: Driver 0x03928f30 destructed from 0x02ecd7c5 (0 drivers left)
OD3D9: Driver queried from 0x02ec76b8
OD3D9: Driver 0x03928f30 constructed from 0x02ec7643 (1 drivers available)
OD3D9: Device queried from 0x0308916f
OD3D9: Device 0x03857970 constructed from 0x02ecd8bb (1 devices available)
Loading texture (data\textures\shaders/unbound.dds)
Pre Hook
RESZ format supported.
Depth buffer texture (INTZ) (1920,1080) created OK.
Depth buffer attached OK. 0
Init: ATIMGPUD.dll queried.
Loading texture (data\textures\effects\water_NRM_LOD.dds)
Loading texture (data\textures\effects\water_NRM_LOD.dds)
Linking to existing texture.
Loading texture (data\textures\effects\water_NRM.dds)
Loading texture (data\textures\effects\water_NRM.dds)
Linking to existing texture.
Received load game message.
Loading a game.
Creating effect vertex buffers.
Creating full screen textures.
Width = 1920, Height = 1080
Format = A16B16G16R16F
Loading the effects.
Shader compiling messages occured in data\shaders\HDAO.fx:
D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\memory(13,10): error X1507: failed to open source file: 'includes/Fog.hlsl'

Found filename : effects\smaa_areatex.dds
Loading texture (data\textures\effects\smaa_areatex.dds)
Found filename : effects\smaa_searchtex.dds
Loading texture (data\textures\effects\smaa_searchtex.dds)
Added to list OK.
Found filename : effects\smaa_areatex.dds
Loading texture (data\textures\effects\smaa_areatex.dds)
Linking to existing texture.
Found filename : effects\smaa_searchtex.dds
Loading texture (data\textures\effects\smaa_searchtex.dds)
Linking to existing texture.
Loading the effects.
Loading effect that already exists. Returning index of existing effect.
Loading effect that already exists. Returning index of existing effect.
Loading effect that already exists. Returning index of existing effect.
Save file links 5 textures.
Error loading texture list: too small.
No effect data in save file.
Creating shader vertex buffers.

I have checked the OBGEv2.log and obse.log everytime it freezes, and they are always similiar to what I have posted. The problem seems to be there somewhere. I have tried disabling all my shaders, no luck!

Please if anyone has any idea, this is very bizarre and I have no idea why it started or what is causing it and I have played many hours with perfect stability.

Edit: I can see there is an error in failed to open source file: 'includes/Fog.hlsl' in OBGEv2.log but I have never had this file, not even from my last Oblivion Data backup which was few days ago. Should I try to acquire this somewhere?

Thanks

» Tue May 08, 2012 12:56 am

I'm not an expert or modder, but some things do look strange
1. Go get includes for obge from its wiki, but that can't cause CTD, just makes your HDAO not working at all.
2. WAC - ItemLootFix4v1.0bOWCND.esp loading before WAC.esp? I don't use OWC-ND, but TIE+WAC requires patches to be loaded after WAC itself.
3. I don't think Scathe and FearSome magicka can work together, because first requires pluggy_hud, and second needs pluggy. You can't have both pluggys (normal and hud) at the same time. I'd say remove Scathe, because pluggy_hud confirmed to cause CTDs. If you are desperate for damage numbers on the screen, try http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34411
4. obse. log shows error in loading plugin data, so just start swithing off one by one plugins that require obse and check log again.
Or wait for more competent people to give better advices, i'm new to modding myself.

» Mon May 07, 2012 8:44 pm

double post

» Tue May 08, 2012 12:43 am

Thanks zilav, the strangest thing is that I loaded a save much earlier, like before I even entered that cave.

And went back in (using console to quickly clear it with killall, just to see if the quest had anything to do with it). And went back out, and now everything is fine. I can save and load like normal when outside. Something happened while I was in the cave, that was curropting my savegames. This is definetly related to saves because I loaded a backed up Oblivion folder and same issue.

I will definetly remove Scathe, because it's not essential. I really wish I knew what started causing all my saves to fail, so that I can avoid it in the future.

As for OWC-ND+WAC, thats the way the author of the WAC compatibility patches recommended it to be loaded. Anyway, this load list has been stable for a long time and several playthrough, the most recent editions really were Scathe and Duke Patrick's. The rest has been around for a while but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

But it just started happening out of nowhere, I had played for many hours (including loading and saving) with these exact mods and bam. I'm assuming something went wrong with the OBSE co-saves?

» Mon May 07, 2012 9:39 pm

I will definetly remove Scathe, because it's not essential. I really wish I knew what started causing all my saves to fail, so that I can avoid it in the future.

But it just started happening out of nowhere, I had played for many hours (including loading and saving) with these exact mods and bam. I'm assuming something went wrong with the OBSE co-saves?

Don't forget to rename OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll to OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1239330-clean-saves-and-reloads/

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:39 am

I've experienced the same problem a couple of week ago. There was several mistakes in my load order. But after fixing them one by one, and even starting a new game, it was still there...

I have reinstalled Oblivion from scratch and I have now a quite stable game, but I still don't know what was the problem.

Some pointed UVII, which is after all still in beta, removing it can sometime fix the problem, but it didn't for me.

» Tue May 08, 2012 10:24 am

I've experienced the same problem a couple of week ago. There was several mistakes in my load order. But after fixing them one by one, and even starting a new game, it was still there...

I have reinstalled Oblivion from scratch and I have now a quite stable game, but I still don't know what was the problem.

Some pointed UVII, which is after all still in beta, removing it can sometime fix the problem, but it didn't for me.

Can you please post your load order? So I can see which OBSE mods we have in common. I would like to be able to narrow it down.

» Mon May 07, 2012 10:55 pm

This was my ruined game wrong load-order :

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm [CRC: 2FF840C5]
01 EnhancedWeather.esm [Version 1.4.4] [CRC: 6C875CE7]
02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 47867C56]
03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI] [CRC: B6B8BB71]
04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI] [CRC: DFD4FB97]
05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] [CRC: 8284D0E6]
06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] [CRC: C09734F4]
07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b1] [CRC: CCB8C549]
08 CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm [CRC: B23E4DE1]
09 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c] [CRC: F97DC0F4]
0A FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3] [CRC: 8899BA8D]
0B Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35] [CRC: BCF36F0D]
0C Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1] [CRC: 86C8B7A8]
0D Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.0.7] [CRC: 82790783]
0E CURP_Controller.esm [CRC: 842FAED0]
0F NNWAEMaster.esm [CRC: F96D6329]
10 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] [CRC: FBE175F0]
11 DLCShiveringIsles.esp [CRC: 2BB84977]
12 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] [CRC: 0B86E389]
13 Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0] [CRC: 8F16A015]
14 Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [Version 5.0] [CRC: 7B1A49B1]
15 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [Version 5.0] [CRC: 19C52F4F]
16 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [Version 5.0] [CRC: 69CDAE26]
17 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [Version 5.0] [CRC: 248C8931]
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: A27190A9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 4547AA1F]
18 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 60FF114D]
19 EnhancedWeather.esp [Version 1.4.4] [CRC: B882A7AD]
1A All Natural.esp [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 0C2B2233]
1B All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: FA38076A]
++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3] [CRC: 8198FCB1]
1C Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: 5A11E6F3]
1D All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 544AC04C]
1E Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp [CRC: B2EF0FCD]
1F Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp [CRC: F1E0710B]
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] [CRC: A17792E6]
20 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3] [CRC: 67026148]
21 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4] [CRC: 20E88EC2]
22 FormID Finder4.esp [CRC: 99D3B0B2]
23 DLCHorseArmor.esp [CRC: BAD48E5D]
24 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: CC2B28B9]
25 DLCOrrery.esp [CRC: 5BC59DB4]
26 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] [CRC: 0407C427]
27 DLCVileLair.esp [CRC: 74D2CA6F]
28 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: AF79D6BB]
** Lair_mobs.esp [CRC: F93B2925]
29 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp [CRC: CB413740]
2A DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] [CRC: 17517FA6]
** Mehrunes_mobs.esp [CRC: 4C51DEBE]
2B Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: AF30D21D]
2C DLCSpellTomes.esp [CRC: 312156F8]
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 8CC91BA1]
2D XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp [CRC: 7D888969]
2E DLCThievesDen.esp [CRC: 05DB8CCC]
2F DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: D38BA0EF]
** Thievesden_mobs.esp [CRC: E1AAF9BE]
30 Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 91615B81]
31 KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2] [CRC: 63399C35]
++ FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 24A2A59C]
32 ExnemRuneskulls.esp [CRC: 17766E05]
++ FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: DA70388F]
33 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] [CRC: EAB6315A]
34 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] [CRC: F7ADF908]
35 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp [CRC: DE136AF6]
36 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 5A017B08]
37 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp [CRC: D82849FE]
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: C7E2EFAC]
38 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09] [CRC: 4F32343B]
39 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] [CRC: 3D5C75AA]
3A Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] [CRC: AD2A2935]
++ OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp [Version 0.5] [CRC: 1ACEA76B]
++ OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon - LLOnly.esp [Version 0.5] [CRC: 839C54E7]
** OMOBS.esp [Version 2.0] [CRC: 59D0F1CA]
** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0] [CRC: 6F998DD2]
3B ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35] [CRC: 74D0F883]
3C OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72] [CRC: 23312D99]
++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: BE78E32B]
3D FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] [CRC: 711706C0]
3E FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: AD5EC654]
3F Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b1] [CRC: 40256DF9]
++ FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 2B2CA06F]
40 Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp [Version 3.7b1] [CRC: 4F190DC3]
41 Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp [Version 3.7b1] [CRC: C5096F88]
42 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c] [CRC: 2CB068DB]
++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: E2EB015C]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: ACBB13AD]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 5C5585E0]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 17F87DA1]
** FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 21EC43A1]
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01] [CRC: 7FE9F55D]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35] [CRC: 9330907E]
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.73] [CRC: 9478B271]
43 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8] [CRC: 645E2C6D]
44 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: 3D5A25D1]
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 1FD522A4]
45 KvatchRising.esp [CRC: 9ED4D445]
46 NNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp [Version 2.2b] [CRC: 50A76906]
47 NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp [CRC: FD0DF579]
48 NNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.esp [CRC: 70EA18AB]
49 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4] [CRC: 6669B5B6]
4A VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp [CRC: 88FECD9A]
4B DLCBattlehornCastle.esp [CRC: 7048C609]
4C DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] [CRC: E2C5754C]
** Battlehorn_mobs.esp [CRC: AAA70EA2]
4D DLCFrostcrag.esp [CRC: 2A7665FB]
4E DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] [CRC: E248F43B]
4F Knights.esp [CRC: F1F478FA]
50 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] [CRC: CCEDD7EE]
51 Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 663D97FD]
52 RTT.esp [CRC: 65F14171]
++ Enhanced Weather - Ruined Tail's Tale Patch.esp [Version Final] [CRC: 186F1D00]
53 The Lost Spires.esp [CRC: 5B6ADFB3]
54 Mighty Umbra.esp [CRC: 6D7692CD]
55 Blood&Mud.esp [CRC: 23A62955]
56 Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2] [CRC: 8BC3D664]
57 Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp [CRC: E3BD8E62]
58 Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 7.3] [CRC: 0440FF00]
59 The Mystery of the Dulan Cult.esp [CRC: 19CC5C71]
5A TheNecromancer.esp [CRC: 06798B41]
5B MannimarcoRevisited.esp [CRC: CF7B5D7F]
5C MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1] [CRC: 5057FEA6]
++ FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 83134134]
5D FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 1405220A]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: B25F8D5A]
++ FCOM_Ruin.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 8E3C9C7C]
5E FCOM_OMG.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: EC8246DF]
5F FCOM_DulanCult.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: D4F9D819]
60 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] [CRC: FEC083A9]
61 xulTheHeath.esp [CRC: ADDF5F66]
62 XulEntiusGorge.esp [CRC: A900F10A]
63 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: EF98D162]
64 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] [CRC: 9C5A7A05]
65 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] [CRC: E70A54FC]
66 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] [CRC: 64B503C9]
67 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.3] [CRC: 750D0226]
68 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 1E045FF7]
69 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3] [CRC: 98F220FA]
6A xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] [CRC: E541D578]
6B xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] [CRC: 75E2FD36]
6C xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] [CRC: DF776E3A]
6D xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3] [CRC: 8C1CDE06]
6E xulPantherRiver.esp [CRC: AD0A3B5E]
6F xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] [CRC: 52A9819F]
70 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: 9302AD30]
71 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.7] [CRC: 17BE191B]
72 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] [CRC: C1C3E5FA]
73 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 5FAB540B]
74 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] [CRC: 599BB21F]
75 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: DABED778]
76 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2] [CRC: 478C8B3E]
77 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12] [CRC: 701EF543]
78 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 321351F1]
79 Better Cities - House price patch.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 475BA24B]
7A Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: FA700811]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: 05003A29]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: 4C040612]
7B Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: ADFEEDB5]
++ Short Grass V3.esp [CRC: B2CF5093]
7C Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.2.3] [CRC: FE516A38]
7D Deadly Reflex Bow Sway.esp [CRC: 6EA60362]
7E Deadly Reflex - Breathing Motion & Head Bobbing.esp [CRC: 77792BDF]
7F nGCD.esp [CRC: D57FC3CA]
80 Sneaking Detection Recalibrated.esp [CRC: E84FE133]
++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76] [CRC: EE92EE70]
++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.76] [CRC: 1076BEF1]
++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp [Version 0.76] [CRC: AEF22522]
++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp [Version 0.76] [CRC: 6C62C9D4]
81 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] [CRC: AA29DCA8]
82 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV] [CRC: 9BC3012B]
++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV] [CRC: 574DE475]
++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV] [CRC: 4B6D0435]
++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV] [CRC: 45372624]
83 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV] [CRC: A5261C90]
++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV] [CRC: 3B46F6D6]
84 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV] [CRC: 6DC9FA83]
85 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57] [CRC: 10E8EA45]
86 bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp [Version 1.68UV] [CRC: 52924214]
++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52] [CRC: 8C1A854E]
87 Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp [Version 5.0.7] [CRC: C430B3E1]
88 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.0.0] [CRC: 8687BBCC]
89 Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp [Version 5.0.7] [CRC: B5F8E6E4]
8A Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.9.5] [CRC: 2EA06275]
8B Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp [Version 5.0.0] [CRC: B789A4D1]
8C Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.8.4] [CRC: DF0ECB21]
8D Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 5.0.0] [CRC: A90BD094]
8E Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 5.1.0] [CRC: FC6C707D]
8F Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp [Version 5.0.0] [CRC: 3FD1CEE5]
90 Better Imperial City - OMG.esp [Version 4.7.0] [CRC: 9D6539E5]
91 Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp [Version 5.0.0] [CRC: 3AF50385]
92 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1] [CRC: 489B15CF]
93 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 4.8.1] [CRC: F3CD0A48]
++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68] [CRC: 5CF9A723]
94 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp [CRC: B8B3BF6E]
** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 779D0F82]
95 UVII.esp [CRC: 3144EC1B]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] [CRC: A066EBDE]
96 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] [CRC: 5860AF9A]
97 Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: C40557F4]

The first mistake was to use All Natural and Enhanced Weather all together.

» Tue May 08, 2012 9:56 am

Emptythe, did any of the NPCs in the cave have an off hand weapon on their back or did you place on on yours?

» Tue May 08, 2012 12:16 am

I didn't place one on myself but an NPC certainly could of. Great thinking however! I have it enabled thinking I would never use it but I didn't realise NPCs would. I know it is known to cause problems.

I'll disable it and I'll go back to that save and check now. But for now everything is fine since I proceeded from that earlier save and I removed Scathe returned Pluggy_Hud to Pluggy, definetly not worth it since it conflicts with FM unfortunately.