How did the Aedra become acknowledged? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Tue May 08, 2012 11:01 am

How did the Aedra become acknowledged and recognized?
What did they do to become individualized from each other?
Did mortals name them? or did they identify themselves to mortals?
How are Aedra associated with certain vices and perceptions? (example Akatosh God of Time).

» Tue May 08, 2012 9:47 am

Well the Aedra have always been known, Lorkhan who once ruled all of Tamriel was an Aedra and the divines were his servants who used the humans to overthrow the elven overlords and Lorkhan along with the help of et'adas.

» Mon May 07, 2012 11:09 pm

The Aldmer most probably named them, Aedra (our ancestors), since they're so full of it.

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:57 am

They had one giant tea party back when the world was still in the Mythic era, and the Aedra showed the other people all kinds of cool stuff and that's about it.

» Tue May 08, 2012 7:02 am

The Aedra are the ancestors of the mortal races of Nirn: presumably the story of creation was passed down from one generation to the next, becoming distorted with each retelling but remaining true at the core.

» Tue May 08, 2012 10:46 am

The Aedra are the ancestors of the mortal races of Nirn: presumably the story of creation was passed down from one generation to the next, becoming distorted with each retelling but remaining true at the core.

More or less, yes.
The gods have always walked Nirn.
Only about 6500 years have passed since the Dawn time, the time of creation.
Someone like Divayth Fyr lived for at least 4000 years. There is also (some) more or less first hand knowledge still present.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/monomyth.

» Tue May 08, 2012 1:59 am

Names? Language. The names start out the same but end up changing. It's why you get Alkosh and Akatosh, Shor and Shezarr, ect. Elven gods, however, seem completely different aside from gods like Stendarr and Stuhn.

As for their existence: Collective memory, history from when they were an active force, myths, blessings, ect. They're remembered from the Dawn Era, more or less.

» Mon May 07, 2012 9:44 pm

It's a good question. The Altmer and other Mer claim to have always known the Aedra because they are descended from them. Men, presumably, believe that the gods revealed themselves to them.

Akatosh and how Akatosh became divorced from the Elven Auri-el is its own story.

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:28 am

Well, I think the gods are deadish or sleeping (but subconsciously work) but can "wake up" for very short periods of time. The Crusader relics, dragonbreaks/jills, Oblivion Crisis etc... and they gain enough power to do something. Like a jolt of energy when you're reeeeaally sleepy.

» Tue May 08, 2012 12:56 pm

They're Jungian Godforms that come in designer colors/pattern.

» Tue May 08, 2012 12:37 am

Realization and thought that fits into a pre-existing mold of how a thing is supposed to be.

» Tue May 08, 2012 5:59 am

Well, I think the gods are deadish or sleeping (but subconsciously work) but can "wake up" for very short periods of time. The Crusader relics, dragonbreaks/jills, Oblivion Crisis etc... and they gain enough power to do something. Like a jolt of energy when you're reeeeaally sleepy.

For the gods to act, their constituent parts (the morals in which their god-fragments reside) either need to come to consensus, conscious or otherwise (ie: Talos is a god because everyone thinks he is) or enough of the god-fragments have to unify into a self in order to create an avatar (ie: Martin Septim absorbing the souls of the Dragonborn Emperors to become an avatar of Akatosh).

» Tue May 08, 2012 1:08 pm

So you're saying the Dragonborn absorbing all those Dragon souls is eventually goin to turn into an aspect of Akatosh?

» Tue May 08, 2012 12:44 pm

So you're saying the Dragonborn absorbing all those Dragon souls is eventually goin to turn into an aspect of Akatosh?

No one could really agree on what the Dragonborn Emperors were, so I doubt you're going to get agreement on what the new Dragonborn is.

» Tue May 08, 2012 12:07 am

No one could really agree on what the Dragonborn Emperors were, so I doubt you're going to get agreement on what the new Dragonborn is.

Which is just hell when you're putting together a CV.

» Tue May 08, 2012 2:16 am

Does Bethesda even have a real answer as to what a Dragonborn is beyond "being born with the soul of a dragon?"