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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:35 pm

Dragons and the come of the first akaviri blades .-...

Can someone sum up a bit in a clear way what happens from the first arrival of men in Skyrim , the dragon wars and the arrival of the first blades?
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Timara White
 
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 7:39 am

In a nutshell, Ysgrammor sailed to Skyrim from Atmora from a Cival war, There he met the Native elves there the Falmer, They became freinds for a while.
Men started to flourish in Skyrim and the Elves saw this as a threat to there Civilization and started a mass Cull, Ysgrammor fled back to Atmora and returned with an army known as the 500 Companions, There he and his 500 slew the Falmer and they decended underground to escape the 500's onslaught.

The Dragon wars is in a nutshell in this book http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Dragon_War

The Blades origin stem from the Akavir Invasion that happend at the end of the first Era, Tamriel was invaded by them but the invasion was halted by Reman I and his armies. The Akaviri forces were destroyed and those who remained living were offered amnesty to fight for the empire. The Akaviri who took amnesty later played important roles in Tamriel's growing society and became the Blades.

What we know now is that the Akavir at Pale pass in Cyrodil recognised Reman as a Dragonborn and laid down there arms and proclaimed him there Emperor.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:42 am

The Akaviri, more specifically, all swore for the Empire, which gives leeway, but the Dragonguard, an elite group of soldiers who were themselves legendary dragonslayers, saw that he was Dragonborn and so swore to him personally, as doing so was their primary function as a band. They were later renamed the Blades.

Gives a new meaning to what they meant by '"eating" the Dragons, eh?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:17 pm

Ysgramor was among the LAST of the Nords to come to Tamriel, not the first.

Frontier, Conquest was published years ago, people.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 11:47 pm

wait is still not clear , ok Ysgramor is the last of the atmorean to come , he arrives to skyrim slays the falmer and forces them underground ok and after what happens how it' links to the dragons ruling over all tamriel? humanity? What? What with akavir ? why the blades arrive in tamriel how the story connects after ysgramor?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:23 pm

wait is still not clear , ok Ysgramor is the last of the atmorean to come , he arrives to skyrim slays the falmer and forces them underground ok and after what happens how it' links to the dragons ruling over all tamriel? humanity? What? What with akavir ? why the blades arrive in tamriel how the story connects after ysgramor?
It doesn't connect. The Dragon War was crudely bludgeoned into a gap in the historical timeline. There's no way to really make it belong, simple because dragons ruling over Tamriel doesn't work with the histories of any other part of the continent.

But the Dragon War would have come after Ysgramor and after the destruction of Saarthal.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:35 am

So beth introduced a non lore fitting theme ? Or dragons ruled only in skyrim? And what about the first blades?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:09 pm

So beth introduced a non lore fitting theme ?
Hardly the first time. It doesn't break anything, it just rubs uncomfortably against previous understandings.

Or dragons ruled only in skyrim?
That's the only way I can see it working. And it works better if you read the 500 Companions and see how close Nordic names are to Dragon names. And then you think about Nordic/Kyne Thu'um vs Dragon Language and it gets a bit better,

And what about the first blades?
Akaviri dragonhunters. Note that previous lore explains dragons as the mounts of Akaviri warriors, so maybe they were tamers as much as hunters.

From what I can see, it's best to explain the war as stemming from imported Atmoran religion. Certainly the Ayleids and Direnni didn't worship or serve the dragons, and neither did Velothi. Maybe the Falmer did. It seems natural for dragons to cluster around Skyrim's mountains (plus the Cyrodilic Jeralls) and Vvardenfell.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:17 pm

the way i see it:
first races in tamriel, dragons own first races, one group living in skyrim gets rid of the dragons. Elves go to aldmeris, redguards go to yokunda, nords go to atmora and a few stay behind (like the silver skinned http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Kothringi of the blackmarsh). Aldmeris get's crappy so the aldmer come back and become Falmer, Dwemer and Altmer, (and beast races somehow, i think?). men come back from atmora as there's a civil war and it's starting to get chilly.
Falmer kill them, the 500 kill them back. etc etc etc

Then the dragons came back.

Now, i'm not sure when, but i think the akavir(ians?) arrived around the time the dragons were defeated, but that doesn't make much sense unless the blades also lived on in atmora.

dragons was so cliche, why did they have to do it?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 1:53 am

Whenever I read "Dragon War" I think of Saturday morning cartoons and the dragon/robot/dinosaur toy ranges I liked as a kid, rather than of world eaters and returned heroes.

How embarrassing.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:14 pm

Ok So can I have more clarification on the Akaviri and their coming on tamriel as Blades? why did they came and what is the akaviri to the dragons connection? Isn't akaviri the original land of the dragons or is that Atmora?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:15 pm

Ok So can I have more clarification on the Akaviri and their coming on tamriel as Blades? why did they came and what is the akaviri to the dragons connection? Isn't akaviri the original land of the dragons or is that Atmora?
There were Dragons in Akavir, but I don't think they have a single "homeland," being more-or-less eternal. The Dragonguard seem to have been elite warriors whose primary purpose was to slay dragons. There may have been Dragonborn in Akavir at one time, which is how their dragons were "eaten," or "eaten" may have meant all of them killed until there were none left to use the ressurect Dragon Shout, but after the lack of Dragons there was also, apparently, no Dragonborn there whether or not there had been before.

So, without a purpose, they came with the Akaviri who invaded Tamriel, where they found that not only were there still Dragons, but there were also Dragonborn, who they swore to serve. Then Reman happened to become the Emperor as well, and the lines between "serve the Emperor" and 'serve the Dragonborn" blurred as one was always considered to be the other.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 11:30 pm

ok so ince it is said that the Dragon priests where also in Atmora , but there they managed to stay in peace in skyrim not this means the Dragons where befoure the invasion of Atmora , but only after in Skyrim something went wrong .... so it all seems to be a local thing?

Weird tough that the rest of Tamriel isn't touched , I think it could or shoudl .... Anyway after this time the Akaviri invade tamriel and get rejected , some remain in service of the Dragonborn / Emperor ... since they recognized the value of his bloodline as a possible counterDragon ....

So here is my derived Lore solution for my quest :


Tel lmeif is plausible :


The Ancient early Blades from Akavir built the Skyhaven temple with the help of local manufactors after the Dragon war times passed long ago ...

they get to know of the ancient dragon wars fought in skyrim and decide to preserve the Dragonborns because a profecy foretold by the Wise Akaviri magicians told that the World devourr woudl have come back and vengence over the whole world devouring the men souls as once the akaviri devoured the dragons ....

so to prevent the profecy fullfillment they decided to remain in Tamriel becoming the guards of the Emperor in wait of the right times ....


in meanwhile they sculpt the wall of Alduin to forever remember to all the blades their important task and never forget that their main duty is to fight off Dragons and not just protect the Emperor .... Assist the dragonborn protect him and Use him as a weapon ....

this so far adapted to the actual game lore ...

from here then my guess upss...

Talos is a Dragonborn , he is the first emperor to unify all of Tamriel and the blades decide to serve him as dragonborn ....

Talos is said to have been ascended to divinity

He had the power of the Dragons ...

The ancient akaviri blades forged for him from akavirian steel a sword wich served to tame and fight the Dragons as well as channeling his power to absorb Dragon souls into confining them into an artefact of jade ,

this artefact of jade is the only item that coudl seal The gate of the two worlds that Alduin can use to come back ...

So even if he was banished from the Sovngarde he coudl eventually come back after a regeneration time , to prevent this the blades broght with them an artefact from akavir that was once used to tame dragons and trap their souls in order to use them , devour them or else ....

now the artefact ( jade shield is lost in time and so is the ancient sword gifted to Talos )
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