Recommended ini settings for Progress, nGCD, Enhanced Econom : IV

» Tue May 08, 2012 10:07 am

Hello all! I have two questions: First, I'm setting up an FCOM install using Progress, Enhanced Economy, nGCD, and Supreme Magicka and am wondering what .ini settings would you guys recommend I use for those mods with FCOM? I'm using DLL Leveled Lists to setup my spawn settings and have it somewhere between vanilla and default FCOM so not quite as hard as FCOM.

Also, my other question is I have my mod setup done and seem to be getting a CTD as soon as I exit the starter dungeon (I'm using a quickstart mod for testing purposes. Here is my load order. All mods have been cleaned using TES4Edit unless told not to do so by BOSS. Also, I have run BOSS on this load order, my bashed patch is set up to FCOM thread specifications and I've run TES4LODGen as well.

Active Mod Files:

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00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3.1]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0B  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0C  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.0.7]0D  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0E  CM Partners.esm0F  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.2]10  The Arsenal.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]11  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.7]12  DLCShiveringIsles.esp13  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.4]14  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp16  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp17  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp18  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp1B  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3.1]**  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3.1]++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]1C  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]1D  PTAutumnTrees.esp1E  Dynamic Snow Accumulation - Better Cities Bruma by Xtudo.esp1F  OBGE - Liquid Water.esp20  Symphony of Violence.esp21  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp22  Distant Chapel Bells.esp23  Sounds Of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]24  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp25  Rainbows.esp**  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3.1]26  WindowLightingSystem.esp**  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp++  ChaseCameraMod.esp27  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp**  Insanity's Beverage Replacer.esp28  Camping.esp29  PTFallingStars.esp2A  ReneersNotesMod.esp2B  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]2C  Display Stats.esp  [Version 2.0.1]2D  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]2E  Duke Patricks - Philosophers Stone Artifacts.esp  [Version 4.2]2F  Duke Patricks - Safe Save.esp  [Version 3]30  Enhanced Seasons.esp  [Version 1.3.2]31  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.42]32  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]33  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1]34  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.1]35  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3.1]36  hotkeys_galore_6.esp37  DLCHorseArmor.esp38  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]++  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 0.91]39  DLCOrrery.esp3A  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3B  DLCVileLair.esp3C  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]3D  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp3E  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3F  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]40  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  Book Jackets DLC.esp**  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp41  The Arsenal - Ancient Ayleid Weaponry.esp  [Version 1.1]42  DLCThievesDen.esp43  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]44  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]++  MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp  [Version Beta]45  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]46  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]47  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp48  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]49  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4A  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]4B  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]4C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-DLT_Remover.esp  [Version 1.33]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]4D  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]**  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  The Arsenal - Leveled Lists for OOO.esp4E  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]4F  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]51  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]52  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]53  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]54  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]55  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp  [Version 1.39c]56  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]57  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]58  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]**  TamrielTravellersHorseTextures.esp++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]59  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]5A  Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp  [Version 3.2]5B  Dwemer Ruins.esp5C  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp  [Version 2.11]5D  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp5E  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp5F  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp++  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp60  Tavern-Goers 2.esp61  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]62  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp63  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp64  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]65  DLCFrostcrag.esp66  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]67  DLCFrostcrag Reborn.esp68  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp69  Knights.esp**  Knights - Book Jackets.esp**  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]6A  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]++  All Natural RL - DLC Patch.esp6B  Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp  [Version 1.0]**  DLC_MOBS.esp++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]6C  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.4]6D  Sounds of Cyrodiil - HOTD Add-on.esp  [Version 1.0]6E  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.43]6F  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 1.0]70  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp  [Version 1.0]71  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion_HOTD_Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]72  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]73  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]74  xulTheHeath.esp75  XulEntiusGorge.esp76  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]77  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]78  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]79  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]7A  KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp  [Version 1.1]7B  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.3]7C  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]7D  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]7E  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]7F  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]++  KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp  [Version 1.1]80  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]81  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]82  HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp83  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]84  KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp  [Version 1.1]85  xulPantherRiver.esp86  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]87  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]88  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.7]89  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]8A  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]8B  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp8C  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]8D  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]8E  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.3]8F  FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp++  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp90  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]91  OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp  [Version 1.1]92  KragenirsDeathQuest-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.0]93  MMMDungeons-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.0]94  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.2]95  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.0]96  KragenirsDeathQuest-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp  [Version 1.1]97  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]98  Bag of Holding.esp  [Version 1.5.0]**  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.2]99  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3]9A  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]9B  Quest Award Leveling.esp9C  Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp9D  quickstart.esp9E  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 4.8]9F  Nekhanimal's Awesome Vampire Mod.espA0  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]A1  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_VanillaSpells.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]**  RenGuardOverhaul.espA2  nGCD.espA3  Sneaking Detection Recalibrated.esp  [Version ises]A4  immersive_caves_manual.espA5  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]**  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.espA6  bgIntegrationIntegratedEV.esp  [Version 1.0an]A7  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.0.7]A8  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.0.0]++  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 4.9.5]++  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.9.5]A9  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.8.4]AA  Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 4.9.8]AB  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 5.0.0]++  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 5.1.0]AC  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]++  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]AD  MiniMap.espAE  UVII.esp++  Bashed Delayers - MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 3.1.29a]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3]AF  Bashed Patch, 0.espB0  The Arsenal - Mercenary Weaponry.esp  [Version 1.0]B1  Unique Forts Fort Strand.espB2  DynamicLeveledLists.esp

» Tue May 08, 2012 2:09 pm

Update: I disabled all my plugins and re-enabled them and re-built my bashed patch and oddly now it works fine, still wondering about .ini settings.

» Tue May 08, 2012 10:19 pm

For Progress I would suggest something that gives you at least 5 times slower leveling than vanilla, in order to get full experience from the lower levels without passing them too fast, though you may want a tad faster until you reach level 5 or so, where you're not that weak anymore.

For Enhanced Economy, I would recommend the realism settings. FCOM adds a lot of magical loot, and OOO makes the value of enchanted items very high, and combined those two factors make you rich very fast, much faster than OOO's higher house prices can balance. WIth EE's realism settings, the enchanted items is worth less, and you'll find much less magical equipment - but those settings may be a bit harsh, it's all depending on how difficult you want the economic part to be. With the realism settings, you must really work hard to get enough money for a house.

» Wed May 09, 2012 1:58 am

A lot of effort went into the defaults for both Progress and nGCD. My personal recommendation is to enable all of the Progress optional mods (except Mercantile and MBSP if you're using the equivalent options in Enhanced Economy and Supreme Magicka), and use all the provided defaults with one exception: the defaults for Alchemy are a bit high, my working values are 2.62 / 1.62.

That'll give you a base 3x rate (same as OOO, the basis for FCOM), which due to the ProgressGSD module slows down as you level up; so as TNO suggested, you'll gain the first couple of levels more quickly. The actual skill increase rates are OOO's, except that the magic skills slightly revised to give some skill when you cast (even if you don't hit) and take into account the ProgressMBSP module. Alchemy is different from OOO, but I've actually convinced the OOO team to use my values for the next version because they encourage wortcraft in the early game.

nGCD, just leave it as-is.

» Tue May 08, 2012 2:08 pm

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I definitely don't want to level too fast as my next playthrough (whenever I get around to it) will include Integration, Kragenir's Death Quest, The Ayleid Steps and Heart of the Dead (should give me plenty to do outside of vanilla content which I've already gone over 2-3 times except for DLC which I haven't done yet).

RE: Supreme Magicka - any ini settings you would recommend I set for FCOM?

» Tue May 08, 2012 4:16 pm

I have a question regarding Progress. If I won't use Global Slowdown, my numbers of "skill uses" will not slow down at all? I mean they will not be more skill uses in, say, skill level 11 than in skill 10?

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:35 pm

For each skill, there's a separate slow-down in the vanilla game (and Progress doesn't change that). Going from 10 -> 11 in a particular skill is easier than going 50 -> 51.

Global Slowdown makes it so that going 10 -> 50 in one skill also makes it harder to go 10 -> 11 in OTHER skills. It's a smaller effect, but spread out between all skills instead of local to each one.

» Tue May 08, 2012 12:49 pm

Ok, I think I get it now. Thanks for the clarification!