Oh no, please help - OB crashes on save game loadnew game : IV

» Tue May 08, 2012 11:17 pm

Hi all, I hope someone can help!

I've been methodically working my way through a "from scratch" OB install, and adding small batchs of mods at at time into what I was hoping would be my last OB install and finally a complete playthough. I would load the mods, test a save game near where I was getting a consistant CTD in my previous install to ensure I skipped the offending mod, and also tested creating a new game. Everything was going brilliantly until I hit a CTD when loading my save game. I uninstalled the most recently install mod, tried again, and crashed again - previous to installing the mod, that save point worked. I relaunched OB and tried creating a new game, and CTD immediately on the first loading screen before chargen

I've now gone back about 5 mod installs prior to the one that seemed to cause the crash but noth save games and new games cause a CTD immediately on the first loading screen.

Some info:

I'm using Wree Bash 295.5 standalone
Running BOSS and regenerating my Bashed Patch after each mod batch install
I've restarted my PC countless times to troubleshoot
Plenty of RAM, disk, i7 CPU, 1.5GB graphics card
Windows 7 64 (OB installed outside of Program Files
I'm using the LAA patch

The Windows error message after the crash:

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Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BEX
Application Name: Oblivion.exe
Application Version: 1.2.0.416
Application Timestamp: 462392c7
Fault Module Name: StackHash_e98d
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000
Exception Offset: 00000000
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Data: 00000008
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 3081
Additional Information 1: e98d
Additional Information 2: e98dfca8bcf81bc1740adb135579ad53
Additional Information 3: 6eab
Additional Information 4: 6eabdd9e0dc94904be3b39a1c0583635

My Load Order:

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00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0B  BathingMod_Base.esm0C  RealisticLeveling.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.1]0E  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0F  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.0]10  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]13  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]14  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp15  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  LoadingScreens.esp17  OBGE - Liquid Water.esp18  300_Lore_Dialogue_Updated.esp19  AliveWaters.esp1A  AFK_PrayerIdles.esp  [Version 1.0]1B  BAKAdventurerTorch.esp1C  Chapel Tithe.esp1D  Days&Months.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]1E  pmRealTimeInteractions.esp1F  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp20  SoT_Holiday.esp21  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]22  Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]23  Crowded Roads Revisited_ChorrolCheydinhal_5.esp24  Crowded Roads Revisited_GoldRoad_5.esp25  Crowded Roads Revisited_GreenRoad_5.esp26  Crowded Roads Revisited_YellowRoad_5.esp27  kuerteeIgnoringTheMainQuestHasConsequences.esp28  DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp29  Display Stats.esp  [Version 2.0.1]2A  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp2B  Lock Bash Omega.esp  [Version 1.5]2C  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.42]2D  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]2E  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]2F  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]30  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3.1]31  DLCHorseArmor.esp32  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]33  DLCOrrery.esp34  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]35  DLCVileLair.esp36  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]37  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp38  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]39  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]3A  LockpickToolkit.esp  [Version 1.1]3B  XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp3C  Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp  [Version 1.03]3D  DLCThievesDen.esp3E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]3F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.5]40  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp  [Version Beta]41  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]42  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]43  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp44  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]45  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]46  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]47  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]48  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp  [Version 0.5]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]49  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]4A  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]4B  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4C  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]4D  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4E  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4F  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]50  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]51  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]52  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]53  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 0.91]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.40Alpha]54  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]55  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]56  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]57  Geomancy & Gem Dust OOO.esp58  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]59  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]5A  Players with Jobs.esp5B  Shady Sam Plus.esp5C  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 3.0.5]5D  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp5E  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]5F  DLCFrostcrag.esp60  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]61  Knights.esp62  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]63  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  EDI - Aggression Fix.esp64  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]65  xulTheHeath.esp66  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]67  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]68  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]69  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]6A  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]6B  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]6C  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]6D  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]6E  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]6F  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]70  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]71  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]72  xulPantherRiver.esp73  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]74  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]75  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]76  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]77  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]78  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]79  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]7A  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.4]++  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]7B  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]7C  OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.2]7D  MMMDungeons-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.0]7E  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.2]7F  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.0]80  OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1.0]81  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.0]82  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]83  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]84  Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp  [Version 1.2.5]85  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp86  Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.32 DT.esp87  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]88  kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp89  Roleplaying Dialogues.esp8A  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.2.5]8B  BathingMod_Soap.esp8C  BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp8D  OWE&P.esp8E  RealisticFatigue.esp8F  RealisticHealth.esp90  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 5.5]91  ClaimThatInterior.esp92  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.1.2]++  Jjiinx_Enhanced Disease.esp93  Syc_AtHomeAlchemy_No_Bounty_v2.esp94  Morrowind Lockpicking.esp95  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]96  BFG's Enhanced Armory.esp97  JCN_AV Uncap.esp  [Version 1.01]++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]**  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.esp98  bgIntegrationIntegratedEV.esp  [Version 1.0ag]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]++  OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp  [Version 1.03]99  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I'm hoping I'm just being silly and am missing the obvious, I really don't want to have to reinstall OB and start from scratch

Cheers, Straub

» Tue May 08, 2012 7:48 pm

Not being able to start a new game? Hmm.... I suspect a missing master issue.
I would suspect some mod or part of mod you recently disabled is still required as master to another mod you have still enabled....

In your WB mods tab... does it say "missing master" somewhere? Anything orange or red there? Some reds are OK. Check the main window (left) and in the masters window (middle right). Need to click on each mod individually and check that right window where it lists the masters.

Also check the Boss log, sometimes it will alert you about required mods for other mods and such like.

Sorry I have no other idea at this time.

» Tue May 08, 2012 7:54 pm

Hmm, good thought Tommy_H.

I just went though each mod in Wrye Bash and no missing masters except for the usual suspects of Item Interchange's various esps, COBL filter, SM Plugin Refurb (orange out of order masters).

I've attached my BOSS log in case it helps but I can't see anything obvious there..

Cheers,

Straub

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BOSS Log? 2009-2012 BOSS Development TeamGNU General Public License v3.0v1.9.1 (1 January 2012)    Use Dark Colour Scheme    Hide Rule Warnings    Hide Version Numbers    Hide 'Ghosted' Label    Hide Checksums    Hide Messageless Mods    Hide Ghosted Mods    Hide Clean Mods    Hide All Mod Messages    Hide Notes    Hide Bash Tag Suggestions    Hide Requirements    Hide Incompatibilities    Hide 'Do Not Clean' Messages0 of 204 plugins hidden. 0 of 134 messages hidden.?SummaryYour masterlist is already at the latest revision (r3774; Jan 29 , 2012). No update necessary.Recognised plugins: 204 Warning messages: 0Unrecognised plugins: 0 Error messages: 0Ghosted plugins: 51 Total number of messages: 134Total number of plugins: 204Plugins sorted by user rules are counted as recognised plugins.?Script Extender And Script Extender Plugins    OBSE Version: 0.0.20.6    AVUncapper.dll    AVUncapper_CS.dll    Elys_USV.dll    FastExit2.dll    NifSE.dll    OBGE.dll Version: 2.0.0.0    OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll    obse_jail_fix.dll    OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue.dll    sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll Version: 4.1.26.0    weOCPS.dll?Recognised And Re-ordered Plugins    Oblivion.esm    Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm Version 5.0	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, Delev, Invent, NpcFaces, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}    Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm Version 5.0	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}    Cobl Main.esm Version 1.73	    Note: Do not use Tamrielic Ingredients and COBL at the same time.    Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Version 1.34 Beta 5	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.Spells, Graphics, Invent, Scripts, Stats, Relations}}	    Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.    Mart's Monster Mod.esm Version 3.7b3p3	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Spells, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}    Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm Version 1.2    TamrielTravellers.esm Version 1.39c    FCOM_Convergence.esm Version 0.9.9MB3	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Factions, Relations, Relev}}    Armamentarium.esm Version 1.35	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}    Artifacts.esm Version 1.1    BathingMod_Base.esm    RealisticLeveling.esm    Cobl Races TNR.esp Version 1.53 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, NoMerge}}	    Requires: the Cobl Cosmetics Res 01 files installed.    Cobl Races TNR SI.esp Version 1.53 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, NoMerge}}	    Requires: the Cobl Cosmetics Res 01 files installed.    Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Version 3.4.1	    Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}} and remove [C.Water] tag(s) (only exist in older version).    DLCShiveringIsles.esp	    Note: If using the russian GOTY edition, move this plugin before 'Unoffical Oblivion Patch.esp' to allow the UOP to make its quest fixes. See infoRUS (http://u.to/0rwuAQ)    Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Version 1.5.0	    Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Name, C.Owner, Delev, Factions, Invent, Names, Relev, Scripts, Stats, Relations}}    Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp Version 5.0	    Note: Dummy file to load both Frans BSAs. Using a file to load a BSA means the BSA must NOT be listed in Oblivion.ini at the same time or the game will not load.	    Note: This is ususally only a problem when automatic installers insert the name into Oblivion.ini then the user creates a BSA redirection file later.    Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp Version 5.0    Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp Version 5.0    Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp Version 5.0    Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp    Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp Version 5.0	    Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.Stats}}    FCOM_Francescos.esp Version 0.9.9 Ghosted	    Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.    FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp Version 0.9.9 Ghosted	    Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.	    Requires: Francesco's supplementary addon package.    FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp Version 0.9.9	    Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.    LoadingScreens.esp Version 2.0 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}    OBGE - Liquid Water.esp    300_Lore_Dialogue_Updated.esp Version 2.2	    Note: Do NOT use with 300_Lore Dialogue.esp    AliveWaters.esp    AFK_PrayerIdles.esp Version 1.0    BAKAdventurerTorch.esp	    Requires: OBSE 20+.    Chapel Tithe.esp    Days&Months.esp Ghosted    Item interchange - Extraction.esp Version 0.78 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Filter, Deactivate}}	    Requires: Bashed Patch.    pmRealTimeInteractions.esp	    Requires: OBSE, MenuQue    Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}    SoT_Holiday.esp    Enhanced Economy.esp Version 5.4.3	    Incompatible with: Living Economy.    Crowded Roads Revisited.esp Version 1.1    Crowded Roads Revisited_ChorrolCheydinhal_5.esp    Crowded Roads Revisited_GoldRoad_5.esp    Crowded Roads Revisited_GreenRoad_5.esp    Crowded Roads Revisited_YellowRoad_5.esp    kuerteeIgnoringTheMainQuestHasConsequences.esp    DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp Version 19	    Requires: OBSE v19+, Pluggy v125b+ or ConScribe v9.0+ and DarNified UI or DarkUI'd DarN.    Display Stats.esp Version 2.0.1    kuerteeSittableRocks.esp    Lock Bash Omega.esp Version 1.5    Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp Version 0.42    Quest Log Manager.esp Version 1.3.2    Map Marker Overhaul.esp Version 3.9.3    Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp Version 3.9.3    Enhanced Hotkeys.esp Version 2.3.1    DLCHorseArmor.esp	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Scripts}}    DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.7	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Owner}}    DLCOrrery.esp	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages}}    DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.5    DLCVileLair.esp	    Incompatible with: 'Kumiko Manor'    DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.7	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}    DLCMehrunesRazor.esp    DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.5	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Invent, Relev}}    DLCSpellTomes.esp	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}    DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.1 Ghosted	    Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.    LockpickToolkit.esp Version 1.1    XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp    Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp Version 1.03	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}	    Incompatible with: Mithril and Orcish Weapon Sets v1 and v2, Fine Weapons, Rusty Items    DLCThievesDen.esp	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Name, C.Light, Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats}}    DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.10	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.Stats, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Relev}}    DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Version 1.0.5	    Note: Only for new game. Don't use for existing game.    KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp Version 1.2	    Note: Has bugs. Use Loot version or a patch or 'FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp' if using FCOM.	    Note: Avoid using Potion Belt and KD Circlets at the same time. Character can wear belt or circlet, not both.    FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp Version 0.9.9 Ghosted	    Requires: 'KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip'.	    Note: Avoid using Potion Belt and KD Circlets at the same time. Character can wear belt or circlet, not both.    MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp Version Beta 1 Ghosted    Cobl Glue.esp Version 1.73	    Note: If using Cobl 1.72 and a version of FCOM below 0.9.9, also use the FCOM patch 'FCOM_Cobl.esp', or 'MMM_Cobl.esp'. If you are using UFCOM then use "OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp" instead of those patches.    Cobl Si.esp Version 1.63	    Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.    Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp Version 1.1	    Requires: 'FCOM_BobsArmory.esp'.    FCOM_BobsArmory.esp Version 0.9.9	    Requires: 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'.	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}    Loth's Blunt Weapons for NPCs.esp	    Requires: 'FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp'.    FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp Version 0.9.9 Ghosted	    Requires: 'Loths Blunt Weapons for NPCs.esp'.    Oblivion WarCry EV.esp	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Relev, Stats}}	    Requires: either 'FCOM_WarCry.esp' or 'FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp'.	    Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.    FCOM_WarCry.esp Version 0.9.9MB5	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}	    Note: Use either 'FCOM_WarCry.esp' or 'FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp', not both.    Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp Version 1.34 Beta 5	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.Spells, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, R.ChangeSpells, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}	    Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.    OOO-Water_Weeds.esp Version 1.33 Ghosted    OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp Version 0.5 Beta Ghosted    OMOBS_SI.esp Version 2.0 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NoMerge, Stats}}    ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp Version 1.35 Ghosted	    Note: Can be used with either 'ArmamentariumLL.esp' or 'ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp'.    ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp Version 1.35	    Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.    OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp Version 1.72	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Invent}}    Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp Version 3.7b3p3	    Note: Can increase the chances of a CTD in a heavily modded game due to increased processor load.	    Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.    FCOM_Convergence.esp Version 0.9.9Mb3	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackagesForceAdd, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Spells, Actors.SpellsForceAdd, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}	    Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.    FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp Version 0.9.9beta2 Ghosted    FCOM_RealSwords.esp Version 0.9.9	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}    Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp Version 3.7b3p3	    Note: Use either 'More Wilderness Life' or 'More Wilderness Life No Gates' but not both.    FCOM_SaferRoads.esp Version 0.9.9 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}    Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp Version 3.7b3p3    Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp Version 3.7b3p3 Ghosted    Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp Version 3.7b3p3 Ghosted    Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp Version 3.7b3p3 Ghosted    Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp Version 3.7b3p3    Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp Version 3.7b3p3	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Invent, Scripts, Stats}}	    Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.    Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp Version 3.7b3p3    Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp Version 3.7b3p3f    Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp Version 3.7b3p3 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Graphics, Scripts, Names}}	    Incompatible with: Slof's Horses, Slof's Extra Horses if not using a Bashed Patch.    Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp Version 0.91 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}    Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp Version 3.7b3p3 Ghosted	    Requires: Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.	    Requires: MMMforOOO or FCOM.	    Incompatible with: MMM Gems & Gem Dust.	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}    TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp Version 1.40Alpha Ghosted    TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp Version 1.39c	    Requires: 'FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp'.    TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp Version 1.39c Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Filter, Delev, Relev, Deactivate}} and remove [NoMerge] tag.    TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp Version 1.39c	    Requires: COBL.    ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp Version 1.39c	    Note: Use of 'TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp', 'TamrielTravellersItemsUnscaled.esp', or 'TamrielTravellersItemsVendors.esp' will remove SI items for sale.	    Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.    ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp Version 1.39c Ghosted    FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp Version 0.9.9 Ghosted	    Requires: 'TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp'    FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp Version 0.9.9 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.Spells, Invent, Scripts}}    FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp Version 0.9.9 Ghosted	    Requires: 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'.    Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp Version 3.7b3p3 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}    ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp Version 2.01 Ghosted    ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp Version 1.35 Ghosted    Geomancy & Gem Dust OOO.esp    OOO-WaterFish.esp Version 1.34 Beta 5    MMM-Cobl.esp Version 1.73 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Invent}}    Artifacts.esp Version 1.1    Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp Version 1.0 Ghosted    Players with Jobs.esp    Shady Sam Plus.esp    Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp Version 3.0.5    DLCBattlehornCastle.esp    DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.6    DLCFrostcrag.esp	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Name, C.Owner, Factions}}    DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.6	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood}} and remove [C.Climate, C.Light] tags    Knights.esp	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}}    Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.1.2	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}}    SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp Version 1.30	    Note: The masters of this mod are not in the order that BOSS uses, which will cause it to be displayed with an orange checkbox in Wrye Bash. BOSS's order is correct, and the master order of the plugin can be altered using TES4Edit or TES4Gecko.	    Requires: all DLCs and Shivering Isles to be installed and active.	    Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.	    Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.    FCOM_Knights.esp Version 0.9.9Mb3 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Factions, Relations, Relev}}	    Requires: DLC 'Knights.esp'.    Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp Version 1.2 Ghosted	    Requires: 'FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp'.    FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp Version 0.9.9 Ghosted    EDI - Aggression Fix.esp Ghosted    xuldarkforest.esp Version 1.0.5	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Music, C.Water}}    xulTheHeath.esp    xulFallenleafEverglade.esp Version 1.3.1    xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp Version 1.2.1    xulChorrolHinterland.esp Version 1.2.2    xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp Version 1.6.4	    Note: Make sure version is 1.6.3 or later.    xulBravilBarrowfields.esp Version 1.3.2    xulLushWoodlands.esp Version 1.3.1    xulAncientYews.esp Version 1.4.3    xulAncientRedwoods.esp Version 1.6    xulCloudtopMountains.esp Version 1.0.3    xulArriusCreek.esp Version 1.1.3	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Water}}    xulPatch_AY_AC.esp Version 1.1    xulRollingHills_EV.esp Version 1.3.3	    Note: Only use one UL Rolling Hills plugin.    xulPantherRiver.esp Version 1.1.1    xulRiverEthe.esp Version 1.0.2    xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp Version 1.1.1    xulImperialIsle.esp Version 1.6.6    xulBlackwoodForest.esp Version 1.1.0    xulCheydinhalFalls.esp Version 1.0.1	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Water}}    xulAspenWood.esp Version 1.0.2    xulSkingradOutskirts.esp Version 1.0.2    xulSnowdale.esp Version 1.0.4    OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp Version 1.1 Ghosted    xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp Version 1.12    OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp Version 1.2    MMMDungeons-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp Version 1.0    xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp Version 1.0.2    xulJerallGlacier.esp Version 1.0.0    OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp Version 1.0    xulTheEasternPeaks.esp Version 1.0    Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp Version 3.08	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Owner, Names, Invent, Factions, Actors.Stats, NPC.Class, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Graphics}}	    Note: MAY cause CTDs. Cause uncertain despite extensive debugging. Disable if experiencing a persistant crash.    Harvest [Flora].esp Version 3.0.0	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, Scripts}}	    Note: Make sure you have v3.0.1 or later, which removes a CTD bug with the Harrada root.    Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp Version 3.0.0 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, Scripts}}    Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp Version 3.0.0 Ghosted    Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp Version 3.0.0 Ghosted    Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp Version 1.2.5    Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp    Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.32 DT.esp    PersuasionOverhaul.esp Version 1.43    PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp Version 1.2 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relations}}    PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp Version 1.2 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relations}}    kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp	    Note: Use only one gold in your inventory type mod.    Roleplaying Dialogues.esp Version 0.73	    Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide    Alternative Beginnings.esp Version 1.2.5    BathingMod_Soap.esp    BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp    OWE&P.esp Version 1.3    RealisticFatigue.esp    RealisticHealth.esp    Basic Primary Needs.esp Version 5.5    ClaimThatInterior.esp Version 1.0    RefScope.esp Version 2.1.2    Jjiinx_Enhanced Disease.esp Ghosted    Syc_AtHomeAlchemy_No_Bounty_v2.esp    Morrowind Lockpicking.esp	    Incompatible with: Zumbs Lockpicking Mod.	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}    Enhanced Grabbing.esp Version 0.5    BFG's Enhanced Armory.esp Version 1.751	    Incompatible with: 'Unequip Broken Armor', 'Enhanced Hotkeys'    JCN_AV Uncap.esp Version 1.01    Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp Version 0.78 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Filter, IIM, Invent, Relev, Deactivate}}	    Requires: Bashed Patch.    Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp Version 0.78 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Filter, IIM, Invent, Deactivate}}	    Requires: Bashed Patch.    Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp Version 0.78 Ghosted	    Note: Use only one "Ingredients in Bulk" plugin.	    Requires: Bashed Patch.    TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.esp Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NoMerge, NpcFaces}}    bgIntegrationIntegratedEV.esp Version 1.0ag    Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp Version 1.53 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Filter, Deactivate}}	    Requires: Bashed Patch.    OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp Version 1.03 Ghosted	    Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Deactivate, Filter}}	    Requires: Bashed Patch.    Bashed Patch, 0.esp Version 31/01/2012 7:39:57 PMExecution Complete

» Wed May 09, 2012 12:40 am

Running BOSS and regenerating my Bashed Patch after each mod batch install

Might be a silly question but did you remember to regenerate your bashed patch after removing the mods?

» Wed May 09, 2012 4:12 am

Sure did Kirtai (and did it again just now for good measure :wink:

) but no change unfortunately

» Tue May 08, 2012 11:46 pm

straub,
- some mods you have Ghosted... I never do that (mostly out of ignorance and being comfortably under the 255 mods limit)... are you sure you want that and need that? Was that working before when all was good? Really just asking.

- Minor point, but I'm not sure if MMM Diverse Waterlife and OOO WaterFish plugins are meant to be used simulataneously.

- Did you clean the Roleplaying Dialogues.esp Version 0.73 ?

- BFG's Enhanced Armory.esp Version 1.751 : Incompatible with: 'Unequip Broken Armor', 'Enhanced Hotkeys'
Haven't you EH installed?

:shrug:

» Tue May 08, 2012 7:30 pm

Enhanced Hotkeys.esp Version 2.3.1

BFG's Enhanced Armory.esp Version 1.751
Incompatible with: 'Unequip Broken Armor', 'Enhanced Hotkeys'

The only thing I can spot is this. No idea if it's the problem though.

» Wed May 09, 2012 1:06 am

@ Tommy_H / Kirtai

From what I understand the Enhanced Armory incompatibility is to do with the "Weapon Charge Scaling" effect (from the readme -UPDATE: It has been determined that this mod's Weapon Charge Scaling effect conflicts with TheNiceOne's Enhanced Hotkeys. The two, when used together, can cause sporadic CTDs. I recommend you turn Weapon Charge Scaling in this mod OFF until I can post a version that fixes the conflict.) - I've disabled this in the ini

@ Tommy_H

I've let Bash do the ghosting automatically and until this once incident there have been no problems, but I'm willing to try anything so will give this a shot and let you know
MMM Diverse Waterlife and OOO WaterFish plugins were working together nicely but again, I'll give it a shot
Re Roleplaying Dialogues.esp Version 0.73 - I was going to post another thread about this - I know BOSS mentions this needs cleaning but this is (so far) the only mod that I can't find info on how to clean - do you have any suggestions on this one?

Thankyou both for your input :thumbsup:

, hopefully I can get to the bottom of this....

cheers,

Straub

» Wed May 09, 2012 8:10 am

straub,
- some mods you have Ghosted... I never do that (mostly out of ignorance and being comfortably under the 255 mods limit)... are you sure you want that and need that? Was that working before when all was good? Really just asking.

You should ghost mods that are deactivated/imported/merged anyway. Its not at all the problem he's having.

» Wed May 09, 2012 3:21 am

The Windows error message after the crash:

Spoiler

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BEX
Application Name: Oblivion.exe
Application Version: 1.2.0.416
Application Timestamp: 462392c7
Fault Module Name: StackHash_e98d
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000
Exception Offset: 00000000
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Data: 00000008
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 3081
Additional Information 1: e98d
Additional Information 2: e98dfca8bcf81bc1740adb135579ad53
Additional Information 3: 6eab
Additional Information 4: 6eabdd9e0dc94904be3b39a1c0583635

Some quick Google-fu on this indicates that this specific error report is referring to either:

A module (.dll) in the program caused an error, but windows couldn't figure out which module it was, so instead it's providing a hash of the stack at the time.
It's a low memory error (aka, even with the LAA patch, the game is exceeding the addressable memory space - ~4GB on 64bit machines with a 32bit excecutable).
It's a DEP proplem. Try first disabling DEP and see if the error goes away. If it does, then DEP is causing a problem.

» Wed May 09, 2012 4:28 am

The mod that broke things, it wouldn't have happened to be a UI mod would it? I believe you'll get a CTD on new game or loading a save if the XML files are broken or include missing files. So if you or a mod edited an XML file, check there.

Or a mod that required an ini edit you didn't revert?

You could try having bash refresh data and then reinstall the files to make sure they're all there and not corrupt.

» Wed May 09, 2012 7:09 am

Re Roleplaying Dialogues.esp Version 0.73 - I was going to post another thread about this - I know BOSS mentions this needs cleaning but this is (so far) the only mod that I can't find info on how to clean - do you have any suggestions on this one?

Hmmm... I don't know this particular mod. However there is the standard cleaning procedure with Tes4Edit, and I would think the Boss comment refers to that. Are you familiar with the standard procedure? I don't have the tutorial at hand, must search, will edit this post.

Edit: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide

Scroll down to section 2 for the actual how-to-do it. But good read anyway, explaining the concept etc.

» Tue May 08, 2012 9:21 pm

Hi all,

I appreciate everyone's help and advice, unfortunately nothing has worked so looks like I'll be doing a reinstall after all

All I can think of is that something somehow got corrupted. Ah well, I might have a break with my old favourite Morrowind and revisit Oblivion in a month or two.

Cheers,

straub666