New game problem.

Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:45 am

This is something that has been bugging me for a while, and now that I'm trying Apostates of Oblivion, it's time I fixed it. Anyway, I noticed that whenever I start a new game (The vanilla one, with Jiub and everything else), there's a loud crashing sound, like waves, but much louder. Then, when Jiub finished talking, the FPS will drop rapidly to the point of becoming unplayable.

Any help? This is my load-list:
[Game Files]
GameFile0=Aduls_Master_Mod.esm
GameFile1=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile2=Havish.esm
GameFile3=Hilgya the Seamstress.esm
GameFile4=Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm
GameFile5=Morrowind.esm
GameFile6=RillerMosh BETA 2.2.esm
GameFile7=Siege at Firemoth Fort.esm
GameFile8=TR_Data.esm
GameFile9=TR_Map1.esm
GameFile10=TR_Map2.esm
GameFile11=Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm
GameFile12=The Undead.esm
GameFile13=Tribunal.esm
GameFile14=abotWaterLife.esm
GameFile15=20books.esp
GameFile16=A Hermit's Request.esp
GameFile17=Aduls_Arcane_Armature.esp
GameFile18=Aduls_Leggings.esp
GameFile19=Aduls_Leggings_Bloodmoon.esp
GameFile20=Aduls_Leggings_Tribunal.esp
GameFile21=Alakazar's Lamp_no_music.esp
GameFile22=Amulet of Scrye.esp
GameFile23=Animal Behaviour.esp
GameFile24=Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp
GameFile25=Apostates of Oblivion_2.1.esp
GameFile26=Appropriate Greetings M - T - 1.5.2.esp
GameFile27=AreaEffectArrows.esp
GameFile28=Art Of War Museum (Arms&Armor).esp
GameFile29=AscendedSleeperSFX.esp
GameFile30=Atronach Expansion X.ESP
GameFile31=BB Dark Brotherhood by Westly.esp
GameFile32=BH_Argonians.esp
GameFile33=BH_DarkElves.esp
GameFile34=BH_Imperials_M.esp
GameFile35=BH_Redguards_M.esp
GameFile36=BH_WoodElves_F.esp
GameFile37=BH_WoodElves_M.esp
GameFile38=BM-Fixes.esp
GameFile39=Balance - Magic Effects.esp
GameFile40=Balance - items.esp
GameFile41=Balance - spells.esp
GameFile42=Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
GameFile43=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile44=Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
GameFile45=Better Propylons MI.ESP
GameFile46=Better Skulls.ESP
GameFile47=BetterClothesForTB.esp
GameFile48=Blight Bounties.esp
GameFile49=Bloated Caves.esp
GameFile50=Books of Vvardenfell.esp
GameFile51=Books of Vvardenfell_2.0.esp
GameFile52=CB-illusionbolt1.0.esp
GameFile53=Cali's_BB_V.2_Dryad_Dresses.esp
GameFile54=Caves of the bitter coast v 1.1.ESP
GameFile55=Chalk30-Base.esp
GameFile56=Clean Aduls_Arsenal.esp
GameFile57=Clean Aduls_Leggings.esp
GameFile58=Clean Aln'Baldrahn.esp
GameFile59=Clean Ancient Headdress (v1).esp
GameFile60=Clean Better Daedric.esp
GameFile61=Clean Deepest Chasm1.1.esp
GameFile62=Clean Overrun Dagoth Ur Facility v1.esp
GameFile63=Clean Welcome to the Arena!.ESP
GameFile64=Clean_Templar_Pauldron_Fix_v11.esp
GameFile65=Corean_Hair_in_Morrowind.esp
GameFile66=Creatures Great House Dagoth Patch.esp
GameFile67=Creatures.esp
GameFile68=DN_AshVampires.esp
GameFile69=Dagger of Symmachus.esp
GameFile70=DagonFel_Well.esp
GameFile71=Dagoth Gares_Voice_addon v1.1.esp
GameFile72=DesertTileSet.esp
GameFile73=Dracus's Durzog Armor Tribumal V1.1.esp
GameFile74=Dragonbone Armor [v.1.2].esp
GameFile75=Dulsya Isle.esp
GameFile76=Dwarven Spectre Additions.esp
GameFile77=Dwarven creatures.esp
GameFile78=EBQ_Artifact.esp
GameFile79=EmmasKhuul.esp
GameFile80=ExcuseMe.esp
GameFile81=Exotic Imports by Westly.esp
GameFile82=Expanded Sounds.esp
GameFile83=Fligg's Slave Mod.esp
GameFile84=Frost_atronach_solsthiem.esp
GameFile85=Gameplay - Dialogue.esp
GameFile86=Gameplay - Faction.esp
GameFile87=Glowing_Mines.ESP
GameFile88=Go To Jail 3.5 - T B.esp
GameFile89=Great House Dagoth ( Master Index Compatibility ).esp
GameFile90=Great House Dagoth.esp
GameFile91=Greater Undead.esp
GameFile92=Haunted Tombs v1.06.esp
GameFile93=Havish Mini Patch.esp
GameFile94=Healers.esp
GameFile95=Hilgya the Seamstress Expansion 1.esp
GameFile96=HospitalityPapers.esp
GameFile97=IceNioLivRobeReplacerALL.esp
GameFile98=Illuminated Order v1.0 - Bloodmoon Compatibility Extras.esp
GameFile99=Illuminated Order v1.0.esp
GameFile100=KS_Julan_Ashlander Companion_1.3.esp
GameFile101=Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
GameFile102=KirkbrideBooks.esp
GameFile103=Kn-PowerToThePeople.esp
GameFile104=LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
GameFile105=LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_13.esp
GameFile106=LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_10.esp
GameFile107=LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp
GameFile108=LGNPC_Indarys_Manor_v1_45.esp
GameFile109=LGNPC_Khuul_v2_01.esp
GameFile110=LGNPC_Khuul_v2_10.esp
GameFile111=LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_11.esp
GameFile112=LGNPC_NoLore_v0_83.esp
GameFile113=LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_12.esp
GameFile114=LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_13.esp
GameFile115=LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_21.esp
GameFile116=LGNPC_Secret_Masters_v1_21.esp
GameFile117=LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp
GameFile118=LGNPC_TelMora_v1_11.esp
GameFile119=LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_10.esp
GameFile120=LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_03.esp
GameFile121=LGNPC_VivecRedoran_v1_42.esp
GameFile122=LeFemmArmor.esp
GameFile123=LeftGloves.esp
GameFile124=Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
GameFile125=Less_Generic_Nerevarine.esp
GameFile126=Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp
GameFile127=LeveledMagicka.esp
GameFile128=Lgnpc_SN.esp
GameFile129=Lights_300_V4.esp
GameFile130=MDP Compilation.ESP
GameFile131=MEMT_1.0.esp
GameFile132=MagickaRegen-v20.esp
GameFile133=Mashed Lists.esp
GameFile134=Master Thief's Privileges 1.2.esp
GameFile135=Mer of Tamriel.ESP
GameFile136=Minions of House Dagoth - No Undead.esp
GameFile137=More Dangerous Lava.esp
GameFile138=NEWbloodmoon_begin.esp
GameFile139=NV_BB_Imp_female_Armour.esp
GameFile140=NX9_liches.esp
GameFile141=Naked Nerevarine.esp
GameFile142=Nasty Camonna Tong.esp
GameFile143=New Argonian Bodies - Clean.esp
GameFile144=New Khajiit Bodies - Clean.esp
GameFile145=NewBlood_MwTbBm1.1.esp
GameFile146=Newhead.esp
GameFile147=Nudity Greeting Expansion V1.esp
GameFile148=Of Love and Ignorance.esp
GameFile149=P.R.E. v4.0.esp
GameFile150=PCC_Knaarus_02.esp
GameFile151=Pearls Enhanced - Colored Pearls Add-on.ESP
GameFile152=Pickpocket Fix.esp
GameFile153=Poe Lighthouse.esp
GameFile154=Redaynia Village.esp
GameFile155=ReptileInseparableSiblings.esp
GameFile156=SF NPC111 - Hilgya Exp1 Addon.esp
GameFile157=Scripted_Spells.esp
GameFile158=Scrolls of Khartum.esp
GameFile159=Silt Strider Armor - Ashlander Guards.esp
GameFile160=Sixth House Advanced 2.1.esp
GameFile161=Skooma Anonymous.esp
GameFile162=Sleep.esp
GameFile163=Sol-Weather Tweak.esp
GameFile164=Solstheim Sauna at Thirsk.esp
GameFile165=South Wall.ESP
GameFile166=Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.esp
GameFile167=Steel Broadsword Fix BM.esp
GameFile168=TF_sandtextures2.esp
GameFile169=THTWG - Framerate Version.esp
GameFile170=TLM - External Lights Ownership.esp
GameFile171=TLM - Light Sources (Natural Water).esp
GameFile172=TLM - NPC Light Sources.esp
GameFile173=TVwofs.esp
GameFile174=Telos Rin Graveyard.esp
GameFile175=The Neverhalls.esp
GameFile176=The Sable Dragon.esp
GameFile177=The Shrine of Mephala by Westly.esp
GameFile178=The Tribe Unmourned (GHD).esp
GameFile179=Theurgist.esp
GameFile180=Tome of Spellmaking.esp
GameFile181=TravelingMerchants_v2.2.esp
GameFile182=UAR_Bloodworm_v2.esp
GameFile183=UAR_ChodalaBoots.esp
GameFile184=Unboarable Rieklings.esp
GameFile185=Undeads - Skeletons Arise from Death II.esp
GameFile186=Undeads Skeletons Arise from Death.esp
GameFile187=Unique Ghosts - M - T.esp
GameFile188=UniqueFinery_NoRobe.esp
GameFile189=Vampire Realism II - BM Add-On.esp
GameFile190=Vampire Realism II.esp
GameFile191=Vvardenfell Druglord.esp
GameFile192=Wanderers of Solstheim.esp
GameFile193=Weather Effects.esp
GameFile194=WeatheredSigns.esp
GameFile195=Well.esp
GameFile196=Westly Presents_Aureals.esp
GameFile197=Westly Presents_Half Races of Tamriel_X.esp
GameFile198=Westly's Master Headpack X.esp
GameFile199=abotGuars.esp
GameFile200=abotWaterLifeTRaddon.esp
GameFile201=adamantiumarmor.esp
GameFile202=almalexia armor.esp
GameFile203=bcsounds.esp
GameFile204=blackhoodedrobesbykalikut.esp
GameFile205=bones.esp
GameFile206=entertainers.esp
GameFile207=farrp_Quivers-FletchingKit_V2-5.esp
GameFile208=master_index.esp
GameFile209=sm_DwemerStaves.esp
GameFile210=sm_creatures_02.esp
GameFile211=wl_dockclutter.esp
GameFile212=wm_dragonfly.esp
GameFile213=you are being robbed 3.esp

I used Midgetalien's new bloodmoon beginning for my current character, so it's possible the two are connected in some way.
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LuBiE LoU
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:47 am

The waterfall outside the north exit of Balmora in my own game is excruciatingly loud as well.
Been trying to figure out which mod it came from.
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:07 pm

The waterfall outside the north exit of Balmora in my own game is excruciatingly loud as well.
Been trying to figure out which mod it came from.


Balmora expanded. There was a fix in these forums somewhere but it was a long time ago that I saw it. :)
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CArlos BArrera
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:14 am

Gah.
I checked PES and the used the search bar here and came up empty handed.
Originally I was going to open up the sound in the Data Files>Sound folder and use Audacity to quiet it down, but I can't seem to find it.
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Joe Bonney
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:57 pm

This is something that has been bugging me for a while, and now that I'm trying Apostates of Oblivion, it's time I fixed it. Anyway, I noticed that whenever I start a new game (The vanilla one, with Jiub and everything else), there's a loud crashing sound, like waves, but much louder. Then, when Jiub finished talking, the FPS will drop rapidly to the point of becoming unplayable.

Any help? This is my load-list:
[Game Files]
Checking your mod list through mlox threw up a few things but neither it nor I have heard of this particular problem before. mlox output:
(Note that when the load order input is from an external source, the [SIZE] predicate cannot check the plugin filesizes, so it defaults to True).[NOTE] > '[SIZE 29311 EBQ_Artifact.esp]' > '[SIZE 131705 entertainers.esp]' > '[SIZE 51830 master_index.esp]' > '[SIZE 30634 bcsounds.esp]' > '[SIZE 29635 AreaEffectArrows.esp]' | These official plugins have some GMSTs (game settings) that are duplicates of those in the masters. This means that they can be safely removed. However, if you choose to leave them in they should not cause any problems unless they mask intentional changes to those GMSTs that are made higher in your load order. | (See also: What the hell is a GMST? [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html"]http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html[/url] )[NOTE] > 'DagonFel_Well.esp' | The latest version of Abandoned Well at Dagon Fel (DagonFel_Well_v2.esp) is available from: | [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://www.angelfire.com/folk/joesfaithweb/Morrowind.htm"]http://www.angelfire.com/folk/joesfaithweb/Morrowind.htm[/url][NOTE] > '[SIZE 23905 Aduls_Leggings.esp]' | !! This plugin contains evil GMSTs. It is recommended that you clean it with TESTool. | !! (What the hell is a GMST? [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html"]http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html[/url] )[NOTE] > 'Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm' | "Texture Fix - Bloodmoon" is included in the newer "Bloodmoon Landscape Overhaul": | [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=5268"]http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...ail&id=5268[/url] | However, if you do not want the land sculpting done in the Overhaul, the author recommends you stick with "Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm" which just fixes seams.[NOTE] > '[SIZE !439651 Expanded Sounds.esp]' | ! The latest version of Expanded Sounds is 1.3, you may want to upgrade: | ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pirate_Lords_Mods/index.php?showtopic=35"]http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pirate_Lords_M...hp?showtopic=35[/url][NOTE] > '[SIZE 14805 Healers.esp]' | !! This plugin contains evil GMSTs, and other dirty references. It is recommended that you clean it with TESTool. | !! (What the hell is a GMST? [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html"]http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html[/url] )[NOTE] > '[SIZE !467889 Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp]' | A newer version is available to download on PES.[NOTE] > '[SIZE !757802 Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp]' | A newer version is available to download on PES.[NOTE] > '[SIZE 305902 Lights_300_V4.esp]' | !! This plugin contains evil GMSTs. | !! (What the hell is a GMST? [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html"]http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html[/url] )[NOTE] > 'The Sable Dragon.esp' | There is a newer version of The Sable Dragon available: | [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7817"]http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...ail&id=7817[/url][PATCH] !!'MISSING(Starfires NPC Additions VR patch.esp)' for: [ALL 'Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.esp', 'Vampire Realism II.esp'] | (ref: Starfires NPC Additions VR patch Readme.txt)[NOTE] > '[SIZE 30000464 TR_Map1.esm]' | ! This is an older version of TR Map1. There is a newer version included in "Tamriel Rebuilt: Map 2 - Antediluvian Secrets", which fixes some bugs, including the dialog loop when joining the Thieves Guild via Sugar-Lips Habasi: | ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=276723&id="]http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...=276723&id=[/url]7040[CONFLICT] > 'TR_Map1.esm' > 'Havish.esm' | Landmass conflict. One of Havish's Mage Guild quests involves a small island that conflicts with Tamriel Rebuilt. | [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=1047679&view=findpost&p="]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...findpost&p=[/url]15257619[NOTE] > '[SIZE 337508 Telos Rin Graveyard.esp]' | This plugin contains dirty references. It is recommended that you clean it with TESTool.[NOTE] > 'Telos Rin Graveyard.esp' | ! With "Telos Rin Graveyard" activated you may not be able to complete the quest to build the second stage of  the Redoran stronghold, Indarys Manor. Frelene Acques, in the Hlaalu prison cells, may have no response to the  dialogue topic "escape". | (Ref: [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1035923"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...owtopic=1035923[/url] )[REQUIRES] !!!'TLM - External Lights Ownership.esp' Requires: > 'MISSING(TLM - Light Sources (Lanterns).esp)' | TLM - External Lights Ownership: requires TLM - Light Sources (Lanterns) | (Ref: "TLM - ~Readme.htm")[CONFLICT] > 'Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm' > 'ExcuseMe.esp' | !! "lfx_nerevarine_greetings.esp" and "ExcuseMe.esp" both try to solve the problem of too many "Excuse me, Nerevarine" greetings. The MPP has also addressed this by filtering that dialogue better. It is recommended you use the MPP instead.[NOTE] > 'Clean_Templar_Pauldron_Fix_v11.esp' > 'ExcuseMe.esp' | ! All of these plugins are either included in, or the problems they address are also addressed by the latest MPP by quorn [Morrowind Patch v1.6.4]. It is recommended that you replace them with the MPP: | ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7347"]http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...ail&id=7347[/url] | ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php"]http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php[/url]?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=4519[CONFLICT] > 'Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm' > [ANY >   'Clean_Templar_Pauldron_Fix_v11.esp', >   'MISSING(Clean Templar Pauldron Fix.esp)'] | The MPP obsoletes Templar Pauldrons Fix [Counciler]. | (Ref: [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1079729-new-game-problem/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=80&p="]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...mp;st=80&p=[/url]12924494&;entry12924494 )[PATCH] !!'MISSING(Vampire Realism II - TB Add-On.esp)' for: [ALL 'Vampire Realism II.esp', 'Tribunal.esm'] | (Ref: "Vampire Realism II Manual/Installation.htm")
Try sorting out the things suggested in there and then report back.
The waterfall outside the north exit of Balmora in my own game is excruciatingly loud as well.
Been trying to figure out which mod it came from.
Balmora expanded. There was a fix in these forums somewhere but it was a long time ago that I saw it. :)
Gah.
I checked PES and the used the search bar here and came up empty handed.
Originally I was going to open up the sound in the Data Files>Sound folder and use Audacity to quiet it down, but I can't seem to find it.
Good hijack!

Anyway, send a PM to DWS on these forums, she made the fix. If you ask nice she almost might upload it somewhere too...
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:44 pm

This is something that has been bugging me for a while, and now that I'm trying Apostates of Oblivion, it's time I fixed it. Anyway, I noticed that whenever I start a new game (The vanilla one, with Jiub and everything else), there's a loud crashing sound, like waves, but much louder. Then, when Jiub finished talking, the FPS will drop rapidly to the point of becoming unplayable.

I experienced this some time ago. It was related to Expanded Sounds (though I have no idea what the issue was exactly). Including Expanded Sounds into my merged object ESP fixed the problem.

I hope this helps. :shrug:
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:43 pm

I didn't expect that. How do I create a Merged Objects esp? And would I run into problems with some of my mods? (In particular, the LGNPC series)
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michael danso
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:25 am

I had the same issue as well when I started a new game a few weeks ago. Very surprising, because I've been using Expanded Sounds for a while already and it didn't happen before. Once I got out of the prison ship everything was fine and I didn't encounter it again. Disabling Expanded Sounds 'fixed' the problem. I'm not sure if I tested it with Expanded Sound as the only active plug-in, so it could be a conflict? Maybe we can compare our mod lists. Here's mine:

GameFile0=Morrowind.esmGameFile1=Bloodmoon.esmGameFile2=Bloodmoon Landscape Overhaul 1.0.esmGameFile3=Tribunal.esmGameFile4=GDR_MasterFile.esmGameFile5=MW_Children_1_0.esmGameFile6=Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmGameFile7=TR_Data.esmGameFile8=TR_Map1.esmGameFile9=TR_Map2.esmGameFile10=Texture Fix 1.8.esmGameFile11=Animated Morrowind 1.0.espGameFile12=Better Bodies.espGameFile13=Better Clothes_v1.1.espGameFile14=BirthsignsAMFun_BM.espGameFile15=Blight Bounties.espGameFile16=CR Ore Replacer 1.0.espGameFile17=Census and Excise Office.espGameFile18=Clean Collectible cards.espGameFile19=Creatures.espGameFile20=DN-GDRv1.espGameFile21=Divine Dominia Combined.espGameFile22=Expanded Sounds.espGameFile23=FightersGuildReanimation.espGameFile24=GCD v1.08 with Startscript, fixed [Galsiah].espGameFile25=GH_ES1.3 Patch.espGameFile26=Graphic Herbalism TR.espGameFile27=Graphic Herbalism.espGameFile28=Hold it - SF npc addon.espGameFile29=Hold it replacer.espGameFile30=Hold it-COM addon.ESPGameFile31=IceNioLivRobeReplacerALL.espGameFile32=KS_Julan_Ashlander Companion_1.3.espGameFile33=Key Replacer Trib & BM.espGameFile34=LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.espGameFile35=LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_13.espGameFile36=LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_10.espGameFile37=LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.espGameFile38=LGNPC_Indarys_Manor_v1_45.espGameFile39=LGNPC_Khuul_v2_01.espGameFile40=LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_10.espGameFile41=LGNPC_NoLore_v0_83.espGameFile42=LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_12.espGameFile43=LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_13.espGameFile44=LGNPC_Secret_Masters_v1_21.espGameFile45=LGNPC_TelMora_v1_11.espGameFile46=LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_10.espGameFile47=LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_03.espGameFile48=LGNPC_VivecRedoran_v1_41.espGameFile49=Less_Generic_Tribunal.espGameFile50=Lgnpc_SN.espGameFile51=Mashed Lists.espGameFile52=Meteor.espGameFile53=Museum of Artifacts Improved Expanded.espGameFile54=NEDE v1.2.espGameFile55=NX9_Guards_Complete.ESPGameFile56=New Argonian Bodies - Clean.espGameFile57=New Khajiit Bodies - Clean.espGameFile58=Nudity Greeting Expansion V1.espGameFile59=P.R.E. v4.0.espGameFile60=Piratelords Trade Enhancements.espGameFile61=RAMF_for_NPCs.espGameFile62=Spect Sorcery pt 1.espGameFile63=Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.espGameFile64=TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.espGameFile65=TLM - Light Sources (Clearer Lighting).espGameFile66=TLM - Light Sources (Lanterns).espGameFile67=TLM - Light Sources (Natural Water).espGameFile68=Texture Fix -TR -1.0.espGameFile69=The Imperial Legion Badge.espGameFile70=The Neverhalls.espGameFile71=TheForgottenShields - Artifacts_NG.espGameFile72=TheUberCrystalEggHunt.espGameFile73=UL_TLM_ambiance.espGameFile74=Unique Banners and Signs.espGameFile75=Unique Jewelry and Accessories.espGameFile76=UniqueFinery_NoRobe.espGameFile77=Vurt's AI Trees Replacer.ESPGameFile78=Vurt's Ashlands Overhaul.ESPGameFile79=WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESPGameFile80=WA_Signy_Signposts(!)_TR.ESPGameFile81=Westly_Presents_BB_Almalexia_Add_on.espGameFile82=abotGuars.espGameFile83=abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp

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darnell waddington
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:18 pm

Strange. I'm going to remove all my plugins expect ES, and check if the problem still occurs to rule out whether or not this is a conflict.
EDIT: It's a conflict all right! ES on a vanilla game with no other mods loading does not cause this issue. Now, to narrow it down...Oh boy, this is going to take a while...
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Angelina Mayo
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:29 am

Well you can compare your list to mine. We have some mods in common, it could be one of them.

Try disabling the unofficial patch? I remember updating that one in mid-game...
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Louise Lowe
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:28 am

I've loaded a new game with some of these mods and ES: No problem.
EDIT: Unofficial patch? Hmm, nope, I think I ran that one.
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Lauren Graves
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:45 pm

FWIW, you two have the following mods in common:
abotGuars.esp
Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp
Better Bodies.esp
Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
Blight Bounties.esp
Bloodmoon.esm
Creatures.esp
Expanded Sounds.esp
IceNioLivRobeReplacerALL.esp
Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
KS_Julan_Ashlander Companion_1.3.esp
Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp
LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_13.esp
LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_10.esp
LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp
LGNPC_Indarys_Manor_v1_45.esp
LGNPC_Khuul_v2_01.esp
LGNPC_NoLore_v0_83.esp
LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_12.esp
LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_13.esp
LGNPC_Secret_Masters_v1_21.esp
Lgnpc_SN.esp
LGNPC_TelMora_v1_11.esp
LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_10.esp
LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_03.esp
Mashed Lists.esp
Morrowind.esm
Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm
New Argonian Bodies - Clean.esp
New Khajiit Bodies - Clean.esp
Nudity Greeting Expansion V1.esp
P.R.E. v4.0.esp
Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.esp
The Neverhalls.esp
TR_Data.esm
TR_Map1.esm
TR_Map2.esm
Tribunal.esm
UniqueFinery_NoRobe.esp
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Vickytoria Vasquez
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:47 am

Thanks! Should make it easier.
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Siidney
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:22 am

I don?t know if this will help but i have had a similar issue with expanded sound and Morrowind Relighted ( http://www.pirates.retreat.btinternet.co.uk/light.htm ). If I load Expanded Sound AFTER Morrowind Relighted plugins, the louder sounds in the beggining occurs. The solution was put Expanded Sound BEFORE Relighted Plugins and make a merged_objects with testool.
I don?t use TLM plugins for some time now. But you could test if my experience is aplicable in your case.

Also, I suggest the use of TESPCD Plugin Conflict Detector ( http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Utilities.Detail&id=24 ). Use with Expanded Sound versus all the others plugins.
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:02 pm

Abot's Guars?! I just removed that mod from my list, loaded all the rest of my mods, and the problem's gone!
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Kate Norris
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:53 am

Abot's Guars?! I just removed that mod from my list, loaded all the rest of my mods, and the problem's gone!
er.... :confused:

[Edit: Try finishing character generation and then re-enabling it. Wonder if (somehow) the startscripts are interfering... ]
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