I figured we could do this again, only this time there is one rule, you cannot pick a Legion member.

No, no Legion, it's obvious they are on the darker shade of grey, to the point where some consider them pitch black.
So let's see who you consider to be the most "evil" if Legion are taken out of the equation.

Again, no Legion, no Caesar, no Lanius, no Silus, no Aurelius, no Dead Sea, no Canyon Runner.
Who is the most "evil" in your opinion apart from Legion?


(Evil can mean who you disagree with the most morally, ethically or ideologically.)

Without doubt Legate Lanius.

Ohh, didn't read description throughly... Hmmm.....

Either the guys from Ultra Luxe or the traitor Father Elijah, I'd say.

Van Graffs.

They know full well what they're doing, they don't give a [censored]. That to me is evil. Imagine if the Courier met Ulysses, heard out Ulysses lesson about the consequences of his actions, then the Courier said "I don't give a [censored]" and continued that way. Yeah, that's evil.

G.Oliver.
Pres.Kimball
Boone


I'd need to play again to think of others.

Gloria and Jean-Bap.. - I dislike those guys.

Jeannie May Crawford.

Traitor to Legion (gave enough information to Legion so they could easily overtake the entire town if they so wanted)

gave Carla and unborn child over to slavers/Legion for a measly 1500 caps knowing full well what would become of her.

Sold Carla to Legion for a reason as pathetic as she thought she was being rude.

[censored]

That one guy in Gomorrah who in the How little we know(or whats that quests name). Seems all clean and nice but he's eeeeeeviiiil.

Well... Jeannie is kinda Legion oriented, not part of the Legion, but affiliated to them.
Still, there are others.
Cook-Cook.
WGS.
That prospector guy in that Coyote quest in Freeside.
Elijah.
Ulysses. (former-legionnaire, but not part of the Legion)

So I suppose she's fair game.




No idea who I'd pick, there are so many characters I disagree with.
But possibly Boone.
I think he's evil because he is a sniper and he's good at it, but that's not the evil part, the evil part is how he allows himself to be used by others with no morality to it.
Follow the Courier around and kill off people? Sure.
Join up with NCR and kill people? Sure.

Hell, even having him join is evil, he simply doesn't give a crap, he just wants the illusion of "I killed the one responsible", not proof.
So he's a cold tool to be used for murder.
At least others have reasons for why they do stuff.
Cook-Cook is under the influence of chems and forcefully fornicate cause it feels good.
Boone kills anything without emotion if who he follows says "kill it".
He doesn't do it out of ideology, morals or ethics.
Only things he has ties to is NCR and Novac.

Also, I consider snipers to be cowards.
I think that the one you're going to kill should get a moments notice before you do it.
It's unfair for their life to just *snap* end.

So I'd say Boone is a candidate for me for a lot of reasons.

Can't tell if you're serious or not, but I'll bite...

Boone is tied to the NCR specifically to fight the Legion. So sniping legionaries is part of his job. Furthermore, given his history with the Legion, and what happened to his wife, I'd say he has every reason to kill on sight, even without his own faction allegiance.

Certainly he's no worse, and even a whole lot better than, a Legion assassin, for example.

Well I understand being opposed to Legion, but he is obsessed with killing them.
In one ending he simply stops caring about the rest of the world and just guns down legionnaires.
He might have reason to hate them, but it doesn't make him any less of a bloodthirsty psychopath.

He has a VERY good reason to hate them, unlike rank and file legionaries who blindly follow the will of Caesar.

A psychopath, like Cook-Cook for example, is a someone that will act without reason, morals or regard for others. Boone is certainly not that, since you said yourself, he has a good reason to have a personal hatred for the Legion. Murderous psychopathy, it is not.

I know you corrected yourself but it did make me smile..
Utter agreement..
Though Ultra Luxe is also high on my list, they aren't really evil but they are a bunch of nihilistic capatalists..
(the rate in which they can brought back to being canibals without any worry is a secondary reason)

By that first part and using that as definition any companion would or could be labeled as evil.. with the possible exception of EDE, Lilly or Rex.

OK I'll bite as well...
He only doesn't demand proof if you can convince him.
Like I said ^by that definition all companions can be regarded as evil.

He is not a psychopath, he is a highly troubled individual who can be steered in a certain direction by the courier. You want to shape him into a psychopath .. well you can.... or you can make him care (aaaah) and let him live the rest of his life in remorse. (but you are pulling our chains aren't ya... )

I wouldn't say Cannibalism is evil, so much as a social taboo. But I do find it revolting.

J.M. Crawford. She sold Boone's wife to slavery for a measly amount of bottlecaps! I remember the first time I did that quest. I spent a whole lot of time interviewing everybody trying to figure out who "killed" her. When I found out it was her I was ready to kill her myself!

Boone doesn't become a psychopath unless you steer him in that direction. I don't think you can count Booner (or any other companion) because you can change them. Others like Cook-Cook and Jeannie cannot change, they cannot be reasoned with. They are pure evil.

I don't care.
From my perspective, he will always be capable of doing such things, if not the Courier then the next person who comes along.

I think it's kind of stupid to take leave out an entire faction in what is supposed to be a game where every side is morally grey, but okay.

I disagree with a lot of characters, but Elder McNamara probably takes the cake. He follows the Brotherhood's stupid codex even though he knows it will lead to ruin, and he orders the deaths of a number of Follower Scientists because they communicated with Veronica. [censored] Hardin, too, seeing as he is supposed to be more conservative than McNamara.