Weird Bug

Post » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:11 am

Ok. Weird question. I have a bug with MCA companions, where every time I get near them I become encumbered. I know it sounds strange... But if I move away, my normal load appears, I get near them and my encumbrance goes up 50. It's only MCA companios that this happens with...



Morrowind.esmTribunal.esmBloodmoon.esmMorrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmBetter Heads.esmMorrowind Advanced.esmTexture Fix 1.8.esmClean The Lost Artifacts of Morrowind.esmMCA.esmweight_fix_0607.espSauronsEnchantments252.espPassive_Healthy_Wildlife.espAreaEffectArrows.espEBQ_Artifact.espSauronsAbode252_Tribunal.espSiege at Firemoth.espMultiMark.espMultiMark_FiremothPlugin.espMultiMark_TribunalPlugin.espMultiMark_BloodmoonPlugin.espLess Lore.espDB_Attack_Mod.espHaunted Tombs v1.06.espAtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.espKey Replacer Trib & BM.espASE Bloodmoon Expansion.espWeatheredSigns.espGuarded GhostGate.espabotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.espbones.espASE Tribunal Expansion.espElders 0 Count NPC add-on (Trib & BM).espVGreetings-Hit.espMWE_Base.espImproved_No_Glow_v1-MW_Trib_Blood.espVGreetings-Thief.espMCA v5.2 - Lore Correct Named NPC.espVGreetings-Flee.espVGreetings-Idle.espAdvanced Travel Service NPCs_1.1.espVality's Bitter Coast Addon.espVGreetings-Attack.espVGreetings.espBetter Bodies.espSlof's Better Beasts b.espSlof's BB neck fix.espBetter Clothes_v1.1.espBetterClothes_Patch.espLightTheWayScriptBM.espLA_MWSE Addon.espKeyring.espVurt's Ashlands Overhaul.ESPNX9_Guards_Complete.ESPTLM - Light Sources (Clearer Lighting).espThe regulars - Sitting NPC's v2.02.espP.R.E. v4.0.espAmulets and Rings 2.1 Upgrade A.espUnique Banners and Signs.espWindows Glow.espTLM - Light Sources (Natural Water).espTLM - AdjMod - Siege At Firemoth.espThe Zone (Tribunal).espTLM - Adjust - Ald-Ruhn, The Rat In The Pot.espTLM - Adjust - Arena (New Lighting).espBalance - NPC Spellcasting.espBalance - game settings.espBalance - Magic Effects.espBalance - spells.espBalance - Character.espBalance - items.espMW_Adv_PHW.espWell.espMCA_Reduced_Footpads.ESPTLM - Light Sources (Lanterns).espGravedigger.espTLM - External Lights Ownership.espGRM_Companion_Recall_Ring.espPW_Redesigned Vivec-Vivec_Expansion.espClean Restored Artifacts.espMCA - Guards Patch.espTLM - NPC Light Sources.espTLM - Sneak Modifiers (Code).espTLM - Sneak Modifiers (Locations).espMW_Adv_Required.espTravelingMerchants_v2.2.espTF_longboat_replacer.espVurt's AI Trees Replacer.ESPTLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.espMerged_Objects.espMashed Lists.esp

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Post » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:19 am

Bump for the Saturday crowd.
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Post » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:59 am

Yes, this is a weird bug. I've never heard of this one before :(

I ran your modlist through mlox
(Note that when the load order input is from an external source, the [SIZE] predicate cannot check the plugin filesizes, so it defaults to True).[NOTE] > '[SIZE 29311 EBQ_Artifact.esp]' > '[SIZE 29635 AreaEffectArrows.esp]' | These official plugins have some GMSTs (game settings) that are duplicates of those in the masters. This means that they can be safely removed. However, if you choose to leave them in they should not cause any problems unless they mask intentional changes to those GMSTs that are made higher in your load order. | (See also: What the hell is a GMST? [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1080332-weird-bug/http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html"]http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html[/url] )[NOTE] > [ALL 'BetterClothes_Patch.esp', 'Merged_Objects.esp'] | When using TESTOOL's "Merged_Objects.esp", it is recommended to omit Keazen's BC patch from the merge. | (Ref: [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1080332-weird-bug/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=970900"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...howtopic=970900[/url]&view=findpost&p=14395738 )[NOTE] > '[SIZE 925861 Clean The Lost Artifacts of Morrowind.esm]' | !! This plugin contains evil GMSTs. (Even though it is | !! named "Clean", the original is not.) | !! (What the hell is a GMST? [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1080332-weird-bug/http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html"]http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html[/url] )[NOTE] > 'MWE_Base.esp' | Ensure you are using the latest version of Morrowind Enhanced, v1.6 | [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1080332-weird-bug/http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Utilities.Detail&id=8"]http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...Detail&id=8[/url][NOTE] > 'GRM_Companion_Recall_Ring.esp' | These mods require Morrowind Script Extender (MWSE) v0.9.2 or later, or MGE v3.0.3 or later.[NOTE] > 'Keyring.esp' > 'LA_MWSE Addon.esp' | These mods require Morrowind Script Extender (MWSE) v0.9.2a or later, or MGE v3.1 or later.[NOTE] > "[SIZE 53226 The regulars - Sitting NPC's v2.02.esp]" | !! This plugin contains evil GMSTs. | !! (What the hell is a GMST? [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1080332-weird-bug/http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html"]http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html[/url] )[REQUIRES] !!!'SauronsEnchantments252.esp' Requires: > 'MISSING(SauronsAbode252.esp)' | "Please note that the SauronsEnchantments252.esp plugin does *require* that the SauronsAbode252.esp plugin be used as they were designed to work together." | (Ref: "SauronsAbode252.txt") | [Note that you may see this message if you have an older version of one | of the pre-requisites. In that case, it is suggested that you upgrade | to the newer version].[NOTE] > 'TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.esp' | In order to retain the modified interior light settings of TLM, "TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.esp" must load later than any mod that might change a pre-existing interior cell.[NOTE] > 'The Zone (Tribunal).esp' | "The Zone" replaces two of the stock daedric ruin textures: |  Tx_Daed_metal_02.dds |  Tx_Daed_wall_03.dds | This will interfere with any daedric texture replacers you are using and cause problems with  MGE rendering the Daedric ruins as distant statics. It is recommended that you delete these two  texture files.
When you're being encumbered are there any spell effects / icons visible?
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Post » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:52 am

Yes, this is a weird bug. I've never heard of this one before :(

I ran your modlist through mlox
(Note that when the load order input is from an external source, the [SIZE] predicate cannot check the plugin filesizes, so it defaults to True).[NOTE] > '[SIZE 29311 EBQ_Artifact.esp]' > '[SIZE 29635 AreaEffectArrows.esp]' | These official plugins have some GMSTs (game settings) that are duplicates of those in the masters. This means that they can be safely removed. However, if you choose to leave them in they should not cause any problems unless they mask intentional changes to those GMSTs that are made higher in your load order. | (See also: What the hell is a GMST? [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1080332-weird-bug/http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html"]http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html[/url] )[NOTE] > [ALL 'BetterClothes_Patch.esp', 'Merged_Objects.esp'] | When using TESTOOL's "Merged_Objects.esp", it is recommended to omit Keazen's BC patch from the merge. | (Ref: [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1080332-weird-bug/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=970900"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...howtopic=970900[/url]&view=findpost&p=14395738 )[NOTE] > '[SIZE 925861 Clean The Lost Artifacts of Morrowind.esm]' | !! This plugin contains evil GMSTs. (Even though it is | !! named "Clean", the original is not.) | !! (What the hell is a GMST? [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1080332-weird-bug/http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html"]http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html[/url] )[NOTE] > 'MWE_Base.esp' | Ensure you are using the latest version of Morrowind Enhanced, v1.6 | [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1080332-weird-bug/http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Utilities.Detail&id=8"]http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...Detail&id=8[/url][NOTE] > 'GRM_Companion_Recall_Ring.esp' | These mods require Morrowind Script Extender (MWSE) v0.9.2 or later, or MGE v3.0.3 or later.[NOTE] > 'Keyring.esp' > 'LA_MWSE Addon.esp' | These mods require Morrowind Script Extender (MWSE) v0.9.2a or later, or MGE v3.1 or later.[NOTE] > "[SIZE 53226 The regulars - Sitting NPC's v2.02.esp]" | !! This plugin contains evil GMSTs. | !! (What the hell is a GMST? [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1080332-weird-bug/http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html"]http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html[/url] )[REQUIRES] !!!'SauronsEnchantments252.esp' Requires: > 'MISSING(SauronsAbode252.esp)' | "Please note that the SauronsEnchantments252.esp plugin does *require* that the SauronsAbode252.esp plugin be used as they were designed to work together." | (Ref: "SauronsAbode252.txt") | [Note that you may see this message if you have an older version of one | of the pre-requisites. In that case, it is suggested that you upgrade | to the newer version].[NOTE] > 'TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.esp' | In order to retain the modified interior light settings of TLM, "TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.esp" must load later than any mod that might change a pre-existing interior cell.[NOTE] > 'The Zone (Tribunal).esp' | "The Zone" replaces two of the stock daedric ruin textures: |  Tx_Daed_metal_02.dds |  Tx_Daed_wall_03.dds | This will interfere with any daedric texture replacers you are using and cause problems with  MGE rendering the Daedric ruins as distant statics. It is recommended that you delete these two  texture files.
When you're being encumbered are there any spell effects / icons visible?

Thanks. I don't think that there were any spell/effect icons. I use Mlox. I cleaned Lost Artifacts. No issues there. I am stumped. I will post some screen shots later.
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Post » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:03 pm

Screenshots:


Looking at MCA NPC: http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5443/morrowind20100306220525.jpg
Looking 45 degrees away: http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8295/morrowind20100306220533.jpg

All that I did was look off the MCA npc. My encumbrance changed 50! Can't figure this out...... :brokencomputer:

Update: MCA has been wrongly accused. The bug actually occurs with all NPCs. Aaaaaaaaargh!
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Post » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:55 am

Sorry to say but I think your best bet for finding the culprit is a http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/bin_srch.html. It's actually not as painful as it sounds. I've used it before on my ~180 mod install and it's relatively swift.
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Post » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:13 am

Sorry to say but I think your best bet for finding the culprit is a http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/bin_srch.html. It's actually not as painful as it sounds. I've used it before on my ~180 mod install and it's relatively swift.

I found the culprit. SauronsEnchantments252.esp was dong this to me. Not sure how or why, yet. Next plan is to look at the scripts.
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