I know that mods do egzist but I would never.....

Yeah, I thought the same thign when I read Viranus's book. My char was hurt, she had long been in love with him and then finds out he was perhaps not all that into her.

I didn't mention Dumag gro-Bonk because he didn't seem to be homosixual.

Instead he was delusional. He though he was a beautiful lady.



The last words in his final diary entry are extremely sad.

Lucien on the other had was not sad, not even meh. It was a jump for joy moment. He got what he deserved and openned the way for my characters advancement!

Agreed.



I find with my male characters the NPCs seem suggestive/hatefull depending on whether I'm good or evil. I also notice that when you are the champion of the arena almost everyone hits on you.

I just overheard a conversation between two gay raiders in Fallout...

As someone said, some things are open to interpretation. The guild double beds are not "owned" so anyone can sleep in them, which is why you will get some same six pairings sometimes. Same in some of the Guard halls. I know my very pretty young Breton woke up appalled to see that Vigge the Cautious had bedded down with her at some time in the night. As IF!!

I think Gromm had a thing for Baenlin as well, though that may have been unrequited. He sure was grief-stricken after certain events took place. Careful where you hang your trophy Minotaur heads, folks.

Well alot of the greeks and romans were actully really gay/bisixual. So that's something different. What I was saying is that it was normal in medieval times to say to another man he is beautiful, without having sixual feelings for him.
In my opinion those quotes have no homosixual meaning at all.

im surprised no one has said this yet:

what about in the persuasion mini-game where you have the 'Admire' part, and lots of guys in the game will prefer it......I am fairly sure complimenting another mans hair repeatedly isnt the most straight thing....

Careful...

Yeah everytime I sleep in a co-owned bed I feel like my character will be violated. Full daedric armor not a good enough chasity belt for them?!? It doesnt help that I paralyze my character so he lies on the bed though...

Note: I did not mean to be rude to anyone with the above so if someone sees it as offensive I am sorry.

There have been a few... less than savory... comments in this thread so far.

Please, do not offer opinions on the subject, present stereotypes, or anything else that could be deemed offensive. I know I'm going out on a limb here, but I know this community is capable of having an advlt conversation.

Only offer opinions on what evidence there is of homo- and bisixuality found explicitly in the game.

We are not here to discuss anything but that. You are free to express your opinions on the matter-- elsewhere.

I honestly can't see a way to make that offensive, but man people sure do work hard at feeling offending so they can claim to want to "keep the peace" in a situation that already is calm...

ever notice that the weapons master in the fighters guild in Chorral always spends the night with the owner of the Blacksmith shop? And they're both women.

But...which one's the butch? :huh:

Wouldnt' that be the one with the buzz cut and the blacksmith's pants and shirt?

Oh....... wait a minute.........

:D


*Edited partly because I fear the wrath of Punk (really-- I was just funnin' and I hope the above couldn't be offensive to anyone) and partly because I thought of something to add to something I mentioned earlier:


I still wonder about Shum gro-Yarug. He just seems way too enthusiastically friendly for an Orc, and that whole "Orc Social Club" thing just makes me think of a New York City bathhouse. And I got to wondering-- maybe he's unhappily in the closet, has an unrequited love for Graklak gro-Buglump, and that's why he throws himself off the bridge to the castle?

Or..... uh....... maybe not.

LMAO. Exactly.

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